That Pesky North Korea Issue

Curious Cdn

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There aint going to be a land war in North Korea and if there is going to be one, its "Game Over Man"... Even if we shoot all his missiles down, whats to stop him from detonating nukes in cities that we would take in a land war?

Also if you park enough Aircraft Carrier Groups off the Korean coast, it will make China antsy...

The best we can hope for is that there is a quick coup that removes Kim, and even that possibility is scary.

We ignored them for far too long which allowed them to build themselves up to this point.

Sooner or later, someone is going to have to "Pay the Fiddler"

"All his missiles" ... They could maybe get "a nuke" through... maybe. They cannot lay waste to California, Japan and S. Korea.
 

White_Unifier

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That might be part of it too. China deports North Korean refugees backs to North Korea. North Koreans escaping North Korea have to get to a foreign embassy, which is difficult, or Mongolia, which is difficult but easier. Mongolia deports them to South Korea where they can stay. If China wasn't an ally they could presumably send refugees to South Korea too.

I never thought of that. If China suddenly changed its policy to sending North Korean refugees to South Korea, and North Koreans got wind of this, then suddenly this would increase the rate of border crossings which would cut into North Korea's manpower. It might be a small thing in itself, but combine that with China imposing trade sanctions on North Korea, and NK would really be hurting.

I remember a few years ago reading in bewilderment and some of the things North Korea does to irritate its one and only ally. Not too bright, I might say.

When you're isolated and have only one faithful ally, you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
 

JLM

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North Korea making missile-ready nuclear weapons, U.S. analysts say

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-world%2Bnation&wpmk=1

Now that Kim is feeling cornered..... he might behave even more erratically than usual. Kim is very single minded about developing this capability.......at the cost to his own people if need be. Not sure the sanctions will work to motivate him to stop or curtail his Nuke weapons efforts .


Time to quit discussing the f**ker and drop a smart bomb his chimney!
 

Curious Cdn

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What if he decides to nuke a carrier group?


Kim must have super magical accurate targeting capability. Two months ago, he didn't have a staged rocket that wouldn't fall apart and now he's making precision strikes out on a REALLY BIG ocean ... based on what? ... his last satellite pass?
 

Ocean Breeze

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I don't know. Would the North Koreans be that stupid?

When I was in China, the media covered suspicions that China's North Korean "friend and ally" might have counterfeited Chinese currency to spend in China. If true, now that's a way for North Korea to build ties with its one and only ally that tolerates it for purely practical reasons.

I don't know how much power Kim has. If he ordered the shelling of Seoul just for the heck of it, would the Communist Party have the power to override him? what about his generals? How much influence do they have over him? Would one of them be able to talk him out of it?

But yeah, if North Korea ever crosses the line, China will cut loose and let the world have at North Korea, at least to a degree.
China is in a very powerful position. in this situation. China is pretty smart and not crazy 'reactive". It is ;known for its studied patience......and knowing what the odds are.

I think too.....that China would cut their losses should it come to Kim doing something really MAD.

The question is: Would Trump use WMD on NK if in his "judgment" it was "warranted"??
 

mentalfloss

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I dunno, man .... a tale of two lunatics, perhaps.

Understand this...

The only way that Republicans have any real significance in America is through some allusion to danger.

When the world is safe, they suffer an existential crisis and lose support.


Now please, carry on.
 

Johnnny

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The only way it could escalate is if North Korea does something similar to what happened in Yeonpyeong and civilians are killed in a large group.

Even then like I said there won't be a land war.
 

Cliffy

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It is all smoke and mirrors. Trump and his crew are in disarray and they need something to distract the sheeple from their incompetence. Happens every time. There is no threat from NK. Trump is great at one thing: word porn, Distract and baffle them with bull shit. China is not going to let that chubby little freak endanger their country and Trump needs something to deflect from his glowering incompetence. But the sheeple are all in a tither over nothing so, he has succeeded in that.
 

Kreskin

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Un suckered Trump a couple of months ago by getting Trump to say nice things about him in public so he'd send back the American. The American basically came back in a body bag.
 

Ocean Breeze

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It is all smoke and mirrors. Trump and his crew are in disarray and they need something to distract the sheeple from their incompetence. Happens every time. There is no threat from NK. Trump is great at one thing: word porn, Distract and baffle them with bull shit. China is not going to let that chubby little freak endanger their country and Trump needs something to deflect from his glowering incompetence. But the sheeple are all in a tither over nothing so, he has succeeded in that.
The timing is perfect with his descending poll numbers too. His low polls were a big news item for the last few days. Now it is fire and whatever from trump mouth.



Well stated. Cliff.
 

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Its the end of the world !!!!!!!! Trump is going to nuk the fuk out of everything
 

JLM

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That psycho can't be trusted with nuclear weapons. He's a childish egomaniac.


That in itself should be all the justification Trump needs to drop a smart bomb down the fat little f**ker's chimney some night soon.

North Korea threatens 'enveloping fire' around Guam after Trump warning

North Korea threatens 'enveloping fire' around Guam after Trump warning - World - CBC News

Trumps inflammatory language ( similar to how Kim speaks ) is not helpful.

Fire and fury blah blah

Two childish bullies.........add nukes t the equation..:-(....


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North Korea threatens 'enveloping fire' around Guam after Trump warning

North Korea threatens 'enveloping fire' around Guam after Trump warning - World - CBC News

Trumps inflammatory language ( similar to how Kim speaks ) is not helpful.

Fire and fury blah blah

Two childish bullies.........add nukes t the equation..:-(....


Kim has been the aggressor in this issue from the get go. He was an Asshole when Obama was in power.
 

Cliffy

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That in itself should be all the justification Trump needs to drop a smart bomb down the fat little f**ker's chimney some night soon.


She said she was referring to Trump, the bloviated retard.



Kim has been the aggressor in this issue from the get go. He was an Asshole when Obama was in power.
So the US has been telling us since the fat bloated tart came to power but we only have their word for it and I do not have any faith in their Ministry of Truth..