Israel ambassador's comments 'unjustified': critics

[lone wolf]

Your family is exactly the type of non-refugee immigrant we should be looking for.

One needs to deal with reality here......the influx of devout Muslims will change the entire character of your society. Now, of course, 99.99 percent of Muslim immigrants would be physically harmless..........decent people. BUT their religion, their culture is not one that meshes well with a secular society, not one that adapts easily to liberty for all, not one built on the foundation of choice..........

After all, Islam means "submission".

Should we allow our free secular society to be undermined in the name of political correctness?

This is what people don't understand when they consider the society of Israel and the Arab world.

Israel are us.

Islam is not.

You interpreted and manipulated my politically incorrect observations into crap that bears no resemblance to that which was said so you can point and scream: "Bigot!", then you post something like this???? What colour is your bedsheet and pointy hat?

 

[earth_as_one]

Canada isn't a British colony. All potential immigrants have to go through the same process. White people shouldn't get preferential treatment. Your relatives have to compete with other highly qualified potential immigrants. I wish them luck.

Canadian Law regarding Mulitculturalism

Canadian Multiculturalism Act
R.S., 1985, c. 24 (4th Supp.)
[C-18.7]

An Act for the preservation and enhancement of multiculturalism in Canada

[1988, c. 31, assented to 21st July, 1988]

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...MULTICULTURALISM POLICY OF CANADA

Multiculturalism policy

3. (1) It is hereby declared to be the policy of the Government of Canada to

(a) recognize and promote the understanding that multiculturalism reflects the cultural and racial diversity of Canadian society and acknowledges the freedom of all members of Canadian society to preserve, enhance and share their cultural heritage;

(b) recognize and promote the understanding that multiculturalism is a fundamental characteristic of the Canadian heritage and identity and that it provides an invaluable resource in the shaping of Canada's future;

(c) promote the full and equitable participation of individuals and communities of all origins in the continuing evolution and shaping of all aspects of Canadian society and assist them in the elimination of any barrier to that participation;

(d) recognize the existence of communities whose members share a common origin and their historic contribution to Canadian society, and enhance their development;

(e) ensure that all individuals receive equal treatment and equal protection under the law, while respecting and valuing their diversity;

(f) encourage and assist the social, cultural, economic and political institutions of Canada to be both respectful and inclusive of Canada's multicultural character;

(g) promote the understanding and creativity that arise from the interaction between individuals and communities of different origins;

(h) foster the recognition and appreciation of the diverse cultures of Canadian society and promote the reflection and the evolving expressions of those cultures;

(i) preserve and enhance the use of languages other than English and French, while strengthening the status and use of the official languages of Canada; and

(j) advance multiculturalism throughout Canada in harmony with the national commitment to the official languages of Canada...

http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/multi/policy/act_e.cfm

I'm proud of this document. Canada is a tolerant country where we respect each other and our differences.

 

[Colpy]

Canada isn't a British colony. All potential immigrants have to go through the same process. White people shouldn't get preferential treatment. Your relatives have to compete with other highly qualified potential immigrants. I wish them luck.

Canadian Law regarding Mulitculturalism


I'm proud of this document. Canada is a tolerant country where we respect each other and our differences.

Which is the entire crux of the problem.....if one tries to be everything, they wind up being nothing.

What we have built is a western society.....one with principles based on a 800 years of the development of respect for the rights of the individual, the supremacy of the people over their gov't............and liberty to do pretty well as you please...........far, far from the perfect large society.....but closer than anyone else has gotten.

As far as I'm concerned, I don't care about your colour, your race, your religion, your country of origin......as long as you come here with the intent of supporting adopting and supporting western values.....if not, GO AWAY!

Multi culturalism is a joke, and will mean trouble, if not disaster, if we allow unfettered immigration of Islam.....without ensuring their understanding and acceptance of our core values.

Just ask the Dutch.

 

[lone wolf]

Which is the entire crux of the problem.....if one tries to be everything, they wind up being nothing.

Evidenced by "holiday trees and season's greetings" or the basic Christian values upon which the nation was founded being tossed out the window to "reflect our changing face".

What we have built is a western society.....one with principles based on a 800 years of the development of respect for the rights of the individual, the supremacy of the people over their gov't............and liberty to do pretty well as you please...........far, far from the perfect large society.....but closer than anyone else has gotten.

Why have the Original People been overlooked?

As far as I'm concerned, I don't care about your colour, your race, your religion, your country of origin......as long as you come here with the intent of supporting adopting and supporting western values.....if not, GO AWAY!

Okay.... Here we can agree

Multi culturalism is a joke, and will mean trouble, if not disaster, if we allow unfettered immigration of Islam.....without ensuring their understanding and acceptance of our core values.

I've been saying this all along too

Just ask the Dutch.

Woof!

 

[MikeyDB]

WHAT CORE VALUES!?

The core value that you can abuse native North Americans and lie for decades about treaties and agreements signed between "government" and native peoples?

The core value that says that it's perfectly OK to use the Chinese to do dangerous work and then hit them with an entry-fee....?

The core value that sayst that regardless of the numerous and abundant questions regarding the legitimacy of America's wars around the world...that we should as Canadians simply throw our support behind America's?

The core value that says that whatever corporations do to our environment is perfectly OK and we'll pretend through toothless legislation that we'll hold them accountable?

The core value that see's billions spent on militarism and junk submarines while the country goes broke feeding America's appetite for greed at the gas pumps...when we produce more than sufficient gasoline for our domestic market?


WHAT CORE VALUES?

 

[MHz]

What we have built is a western society.....one with principles based on a 800 years of the development of respect for the rights of the individual, the supremacy of the people over their gov't............and liberty to do pretty well as you please...........far, far from the perfect large society.....but closer than anyone else has gotten..

Just double checking that it was Europe over the last 800 years that you were referring to. Wasn't that more of a monarchy type society?

 

[Colpy]

Just double checking that it was Europe over the last 800 years that you were referring to. Wasn't that more of a monarchy type society?

Europe, yes.

England more specifically.

And the limitations on the monarch's power......the beginning of the dispensation of his power to the people.....began at Runnymeade in 1215, when King John was forced to sign the Magna Carta.

 

[Zzarchov]

Your family is exactly the type of non-refugee immigrant we should be looking for.

One needs to deal with reality here......the influx of devout Muslims will change the entire character of your society. Now, of course, 99.99 percent of Muslim immigrants would be physically harmless..........decent people. BUT their religion, their culture is not one that meshes well with a secular society, not one that adapts easily to liberty for all, not one built on the foundation of choice..........

After all, Islam means "submission".

Should we allow our free secular society to be undermined in the name of political correctness?

This is what people don't understand when they consider the society of Israel and the Arab world.

Israel are us.

Islam is not.

I would disagree, for instance, some of my family is from Catholic immigrants at a time when Catholicism was treated the same way by anti-immigration platform (Against the concept of democracy, their votes are controlled by the pope so they don't mesh with our ideals)

In the end its bull crap. Our society has no trouble integrating Muslims. One of my good friends is a third generation Muslim, this means that during Ramadan he drinks light beer and doesn't put bacon on his cheeseburger. The rest of the year, he does.

This is similar to how Im "christian" in that I buy crap for Christmas and eat chocolate on easter.

The issue is the self-created Ghettos. We need workers in the country everywhere but in three or four cities. So we bring in immigrants to fill those jobs..except they then settle in the same 3 or 4 cities forming their own ghetto's.

This isn't a charity, if we need immigrants in certain places and not others, tell people flat out. If you want to immigrate: Move where you are needed or stay out.

I don't care if your the Queen's nephew or a or a former member of the Chinese Army (though that may require some security checks to see about the "former" bit)

 

[MHz]

Europe, yes.

England more specifically.

And the limitations on the monarch's power......the beginning of the dispensation of his power to the people.....began at Runnymeade in 1215, when King John was forced to sign the Magna Carta.

Didn't the owners of the 'coal-mines' of the industrial revolution have a somewhat different life-style than the ones who actually mined the coal?

 

[Colpy]

Didn't the owners of the 'coal-mines' of the industrial revolution have a somewhat different life-style than the ones who actually mined the coal?

It is a progression, not an instantaneous change......the Magna Carta only garaunteed rights of the nobility.....it is important because it was the first step in a continuing journey. We can never be secure in our liberty, we must guard it carefully......and watch over it, guiding it, as one would guide and watch a baby taking its first steps.......remember, the oldest modern democracy is only 232 years old.........and it only freed its slaves 143 years ago, and women only started voting 88 years ago...........just starting.

No time to let those that oppose liberty get their hands around the throat of our baby....

How's that for a touching analogy?

 

[Just the Facts]

WHAT CORE VALUES!?

http://www.elections.ca/pol/can/ec20010_e.pdf

You don't like it, you can do something about it. That's pretty core.

 

[MHz]

It is a progression, not an instantaneous change......the Magna Carta only garaunteed rights of the nobility.....it is important because it was the first step in a continuing journey. We can never be secure in our liberty, we must guard it carefully......and watch over it, guiding it, as one would guide and watch a baby taking its first steps.......remember, the oldest modern democracy is only 232 years old.........and it only freed its slaves 143 years ago, and women only started voting 88 years ago...........just starting.

No time to let those that oppose liberty get their hands around the throat of our baby....

How's that for a touching analogy?

So at the current rate of progress the baby should be able to stand in about 3200 more years. Doesn't that make a person all giggly inside?

 

[Colpy]

So at the current rate of progress the baby should be able to stand in about 3200 more years. Doesn't that make a person all giggly inside?

This baby will never stand on its own....it will always need to be very carefully nutured.....

 

[MHz]

By just a few I imagine.

 

[einmensch]

Bob Ray is jewish and and at present his comment is politically motivated. If he were to become Prime Minister ??? First he is NDP, Remember the RAY Days--he opened civil worker contracts but left bussiness alone--now he is a Liberal
Does Bob have dual citizenship?

 

[dancing-loon]

Bob Ray is jewish and and at present his comment is politically motivated. If he were to become Prime Minister ??? First he is NDP, Remember the RAY Days--he opened civil worker contracts but left bussiness alone--now he is a Liberal
Does Bob have dual citizenship?

Bob Rae?? I had no idea!!!8O

 

[JBG]

Bob Ray is jewish and and at present his comment is politically motivated. If he were to become Prime Minister ??? First he is NDP, Remember the RAY Days--he opened civil worker contracts but left bussiness alone--now he is a Liberal
Does Bob have dual citizenship?

Bob Rae's wife is Jewish. Bob Rae is not.

Now, dual citizenship with which country?

 

[einmensch]

Thank you for the clarification.

 

[JBG]

Thank you for the clarification.

I guess if he were Jewish you'd find him even harder to stomache.

 

[MHz]

Bob Rae's wife is Jewish. Bob Rae is not.

Now, dual citizenship with which country?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Rae
"Upon his marriage to Arlene, Bob Rae agreed to raise his children in his wife's Jewish faith, though he himself is an Anglican.[1]"

Since religious affiliation is mentioned too bad it wasn't stated what kind of Christian he is , sheep or goat?

If religion doesn't play a role in their ability to serve the people paying them then it doesn't matter for one to be Jewish, at the same time that should apply to any religion. If somebody is hired to take some money and shuffle it around a bit and give it back to those same people then religion is benign. If those people only get a portion back and some is siphoned off, in round about ways, then religion does start to play a factor, and not in a good light. That is the duality issue.