Conservative 'Robocalls' tricked voters in last election

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Next nowhere in the post quoted did the poster even mention a 22 year old. But you added that to your reply to make it appear he had.

No he didn't. You just read more into it than what was there. You have a bad habit of doing that.
 

PoliticalNick

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I'm going to reserve judgement on this affair until we get some more information. It is too simple to track this back to the person(s) that rented the site.Getting copies of the voters list is not all that difficult either. I just don't see any wanna be politician being in the know because of the ease of catching them. I can see a misguided supporter doing it on his/her own.

Oh I have been following the events. And as more information was published it was clear that it was not a single 22 year old.
Next nowhere in the post quoted did the poster even mention a 22 year old. But you added that to your reply to make it appear he had. He stated he was waiting for more info. His words – Reserve Judgment.
You on the other hand prefer to lash out.
Same as when you called a member, a former Soldier a Baby Killer.

I have underlined the part of his post I was responding to for your benefit. I was questioning his intelligence at possibly believing such a complex and intentional fraud at a national level could be perpetrated by a single person.

Now on another note, what's the deal with your interjection into this. I posted a response to another member and you jump in "with a sledge-hammer" to use your words. I am guessing you must be a big CPC supporter because just like the party you are condemning me for doing something that you yourself are doing. That is the common M.O. of the Cons, most times they are doing far worse things that what they are complaining about.

I will however send you my sympathies, I am sure you must be having a tough time right now trying to reconcile your support for our current government against your disgust for the tactics that are now being revealed. I suspect it is difficult to continue support for a bunch of crooks and liars no matter how much you agree with their position on a few political issues.
 

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I have underlined the part of his post I was responding to for your benefit. I was questioning his intelligence at possibly believing such a complex and intentional fraud at a national level could be perpetrated by a single person.

Now on another note, what's the deal with your interjection into this. I posted a response to another member and you jump in "with a sledge-hammer" to use your words. I am guessing you must be a big CPC supporter because just like the party you are condemning me for doing something that you yourself are doing. That is the common M.O. of the Cons, most times they are doing far worse things that what they are complaining about.

I will however send you my sympathies, I am sure you must be having a tough time right now trying to reconcile your support for our current government against your disgust for the tactics that are now being revealed. I suspect it is difficult to continue support for a bunch of crooks and liars no matter how much you agree with their position on a few political issues.

No I am not a big supporter of the CPC - Guess you should catch up on my posts.

You have a habit of questioning others intelligence as if you were the end all and be all of intelligence . My opinion you are the end all.

You slammed him for reserving judgment and waiting for more info. Is that wrong?

Then you accuse me of supporting liars and crooks.

Myself I find you to be and I will try to be polite - A supercilious Dumb Fuk, who while some what aged in years have not kept your maturity or intelligence level at the same rate of increase in years.
 

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No I am not a big supporter of the CPC - Guess you should catch up on my posts.

You have a habit of questioning others intelligence as if you were the end all and be all of intelligence . My opinion you are the end all.

You slammed him for reserving judgment and waiting for more info. Is that wrong?

Then you accuse me of supporting liars and crooks.

Myself I find you to be and I will try to be polite - A supercilious Dumb Fuk, who while some what aged in years have not kept your maturity or intelligence level at the same rate of increase in years.

Due to my job I don't have time to check all the posts all the time, that will be different during break-up, so I apologize for possibly confusing you with a different member who is a big CPC supporter. I also apologize for suggesting you support liars and crooks, once again I had you confused with someone else.

Do I question intelligence a lot? Maybe, but contrary to your opinion I am a very smart guy. Your delusion that I am not mature or intelligent is due to your inability to accept that I am blunt and direct in what i say without a care of what may be PC or not. If more people were like that the world would be better.

I actually "slammed" him for thinking this could be perpetrated by one person, not for reserving judgement on whether it is connected to the CPC. If you were a little smarter you would comprehend the difference.
 

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Due to my job I don't have time to check all the posts all the time, that will be different during break-up, so I apologize for possibly confusing you with a different member who is a big CPC supporter. I also apologize for suggesting you support liars and crooks, once again I had you confused with someone else.

Do I question intelligence a lot? Maybe, but contrary to your opinion I am a very smart guy. Your delusion that I am not mature or intelligent is due to your inability to accept that I am blunt and direct in what i say without a care of what may be PC or not. If more people were like that the world would be better.

I actually "slammed" him for thinking this could be perpetrated by one person, not for reserving judgement on whether it is connected to the CPC. If you were a little smarter you would comprehend the difference.

What I was doing was sending back insults as they had been delivered by you to me.

Do not confuse blunt with insulting. You have a habit of insulting posters when you think you are being blunt.

The poster stated he was waiting for more info. I am also waiting as Jail Time will be the option for those that do not cooperate with the RCMP - Lets make a deal is how they will handle it. They want the big fish, not the plankton that this 23 year old is. He is just one link.
 

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As with most cases of political contraversy, all the usual suspects persist in digging themselves into a big hole or painting themselves into a corner, depending on which party they support. I watched fairly extensive news coverage of the matter on C.B.C. TV news and the facts of the matter are that no one except for the perpetrators and to a lesser extent those on the receiving end of the calls knows what went on here. These political bastards whether they be Cons. Libs or N.D.P.s are all tarred with the same brush- none of them can be trusted and all of them will do whatever they can to smear the other party. My guess here is it's a combination - a few Cons acting like A$$holes and a few disgrunted Liberals because they took a major Sh*t kicking on election day. As the whole thing is so typical of what happens in politics as far as I'm concerned it's a NON EVENT.
 

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Realistically I don't think the GG would toss the entire election.. .
I doubt the G-G can do that. It's true that he decides who will form the government and he can dissolve the House, but I doubt a few subverted ridings would be an adequate justification for that. I heard a guy on CBC radio this morning talking about it, a former chief electoral officer. Any voter can seek to have an election in a single riding overturned, but a judge has to be convinced that enough voters were affected to have changed the outcome, like if 500 people didn't make it to a polling station because they were misdirected and the margin of victory was less than that. Then the judge can overturn the election and the seat becomes vacant, so there'll have to be a by-election.

... as far as I'm concerned it's a NON EVENT.
You might want to reassess your position. This was a deliberate attempt to directly subvert an election, not at all the usual mudslinging and pork barreling and BS that goes on all the time. This is in a different class altogether.
 

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You might want to reassess your position. This was a deliberate attempt to directly subvert an election, not at all the usual mudslinging and pork barreling and BS that goes on all the time. This is in a different class altogether.

No doubt! Every person who deliberately spoils a ballot probably does that in a small way. If it was Harper (which I rather doubt) behind it, yes it's a huge event of epic proportions. If it was an M.P. it is also a very serious matter. But until we know the facts we just have to keep our eyes and ears open and expect to hear anything. So until that happens we don't know if it's a different class altogether. How much sh*t does the media generate?
 

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Rae claims 'robocalls' contributed to Liberal candidates' defeat - Politics - CBC News

Now this story will only grow. And the RCMP best get to the bottom of this one.

Interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae claims reports of "robocalls" and voter suppression tactics contributed to the defeat of Liberal candidates in at least 27 ridings during the last federal election.

These tactics were the equivalent of "stuffing a ballot box," Rae said at a news conference in the riding of Toronto-Danforth on Saturday.

Rae called on "the prime minister, any Conservative MP, candidate or party official" who has any knowledge of these reports to come forward and turn the information over to the RCMP or Elections Canada for investigation.

According to Rae, these reports are part of a wider misinformation campaign by the Conservatives and he is calling on Parliament to hold an emergency debate on Monday.

In an interview with CBC News on Saturday, Dean Del Mastro, the parliamentary secretary to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, said his own campaign in Peterborough, Ont., was "the victim" of dirty tricks.

Del Mastro said he would be providing Elections Canada with this information and said the party is calling on anyone with any information about these fraudulent calls to do the same.

CBC News has learned that Jim Maloway, former NDP MP and the current member for Elmwood in the Manitoba legislature, has sent a letter to the chief electoral officer asking him to investigate "possible organized illegal activity" in the federal riding of Elmwood-Transcona.
 

PoliticalNick

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as far as I'm concerned it's a NON EVENT.

A non-event???? Made up by the media????

JLM, this is probably the biggest scandal in the history of Canadian politics. It is tantamount to completely fixing the election. At the least it is a massive attempt at creating a fraudulent result, at worst it actually did create election results that are different from what the true result would have been. As I stated earlier, there should at least be by-elections in any riding that was possibly affected with the candidate that benefited being disqualified. If it were to be determined that the CPC party and its leadership were involved and had prior knowledge then under the elections act the results of the entire election could be tossed out and all those involved banned from all politics for 5 years (although I would suggest their career would be over anyway)