Canada-To-U.S. Pipeline Project Newest Front in Climate Clash

petros

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Keystone or Keystone XL? Keystone is a decomissioned nat gas line converted to oil. It's partly the original Trans-Canada line. They are also duel lines to return the solvent that is added to thin the crude to pump it super quickly and several grades at a time. This is high tech **** that makes old pipelines look like garden hoses.

Two words sum up these pipelines.


NO CHOICE!
 

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Keystone XL: a line in the sand for Obama

As protest intensifies to stop a major tar sands oil pipeline, the president must choose: a green energy future or Big Oil profit

The White House was rocked Tuesday, not only by the 5.9 Richter-scale earthquake, but by the protests mounting outside its gates. More than 2,100 people say they'll risk arrest there during the next two weeks. They oppose the Keystone XL pipeline project, designed to carry heavy crude oil from the tar sands of Alberta, Canada, to refineries on the US Gulf Coast.

A "keystone" in architecture is the stone at the top of an arch that holds the arch together; without it, the structure collapses. By putting their bodies on the line – as more than 200 have already at the time of this writing – these practitioners of the proud tradition of civil disobedience hope to collapse not only the pipeline, but the fossil-fuel dependence that is accelerating disruptive global climate change.

Bill McKibben was among those already arrested. He is an environmentalist and author who founded the group 350.org, named after the estimated safe upper limit of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere of 350ppm (parts per million; the planet is currently at 390ppm). In a call to action to join the protest,

McKibben, along with others, including journalist Naomi Klein, actor Danny Glover and Nasa scientist James Hansen, wrote the Keystone pipeline is "a fifteen hundred mile fuse to the biggest carbon bomb on the continent, a way to make it easier and faster to trigger the final overheating of our planet".

The movement to oppose Keystone XL ranges from activists and scientists to indigenous peoples of the threatened Canadian plains and boreal forests, where the tar sands are located, to rural farmers and ranchers in the ecologically fragile Sand Hills region of Nebraska, to students and physicians. Asked why the White House protests are taking place while President Barack Obama is away on a family vacation on Martha's Vineyard, McKibben replied:
"We'll be here when he gets back, too. We're staying for two weeks, every day. This is the first real civil disobedience of this scale in the environmental movement in ages."
Just miles to the east of Martha's Vineyard, and almost exactly 170 years earlier, on Nantucket, Frederick Douglass, the escaped slave, abolitionist, journalist and publisher, gave one of his first major addresses, before the Massachusetts Anti-Slavery Society. Douglass is famous for stating one of grassroots organising's central truths:
"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will."
Demanding change is one thing, while getting change in Washington, DC is another, especially with the Republican-controlled House of Representatives' hostility to any climate-change legislation. That is why the protests against Keystone XL are happening in front of the White House. President Obama has the power to stop the pipeline. The Canadian corporation behind the project, TransCanada, has applied for a permit from the US state department to build the pipeline. If the state department denies the permit, Keystone XL would be dead. The enormous environmental devastation caused by extracting petroleum from the tar sands might still move forward, but without easy access to the refineries and the US market, it would certainly be slowed.

TransCanada executives are confident that the US will grant the permit by the end of the year. Republican politicians and the petroleum industry tout the creation of well-paying construction jobs that would come from the project, and even enjoy some union support. In response, two major unions, the Amalgamated Transit Union and the Transport Workers Union, representing more than 300,000 workers, called on the state department to deny the permit. In a joint press release, they said:
"We need jobs, but not ones based on increasing our reliance on Tar Sands oil … Many jobs could also be created in energy conservation, upgrading the grid, maintaining and expanding public transportation – jobs that can help us reduce air pollution, greenhouse gas emissions, and improve energy efficiency."
Two Canadian women, indigenous actor Tantoo Cardinal, who starred in "Dances With Wolves", and Margot Kidder, who played Lois Lane in "Superman", were arrested with about 50 others just before the earthquake hit Tuesday. Bill McKibben summed up:
"It takes more than earthquakes and hurricanes to worry us – we'll be out here through 3 September. Our hope is to send a Richter 8 tremor through the political system on the day Barack Obama says no to Big Oil and reminds us all why we were so happy when he got elected. The tar sands pipeline is his test.


Keystone XL: a line in the sand for Obama | Amy Goodman | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk



 

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I just watched 105 SOO Line railcars loaded with Keystone XL designated pipe (produced locally) roll through my neighbourhood.

It won't be much longer now....
 

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I just watched 105 SOO Line railcars loaded with Keystone XL designated pipe (produced locally) roll through my neighbourhood.
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This pipe should all be fabricated in AB..
It's AB crude that is being shipped south, so the pipe should all be fab'd here..
 

petros

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It's not all AB crude and AB kinda lacks a steel mill unless you want to buy coils from somewhere else, like Regina where steel and pipe are manufactured in huge quantities.
 

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It's not all AB crude and AB kinda lacks a steel mill unless you want to buy coils from somewhere else, like Regina where steel and pipe are manufactured in huge quantities.

Ummm, not aware that Regina has a steel manufacturing plant???? I know the pipe mill buys it's steel plate to fab the pipe.

AB has a large capacity to fab pipe, but all their shops are full with back orders.
 

petros

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They don't use plate, they use coils, bought from Regina. AB doesn't have a 30" or 36" line pipe mill so that's probably why it's being made in Regina.

It's just a tiny little 265mt an hour plant.



Nice place huh? My dad built it.
 

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ya know what, durry is sounding more and more like a texan I met 30 years ago or so in Vegas. When I informed him that BC was bigger than texas, he got all uppity and informed me that "nuthin was bigger'n texas" and stomped away.
 

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ya know what, durry is sounding more and more like a texan I met 30 years ago or so in Vegas. When I informed him that BC was bigger than texas, he got all uppity and informed me that "nuthin was bigger'n texas" and stomped away.
I have a brother inlaw that is a Texan. He was humbled when he first came to Canada.
 

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This pipe should all be fabricated in AB..
It's AB crude that is being shipped south, so the pipe should all be fab'd here..

lol

Listen to the Free Market stooge now...what a hypocrite.
 

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Alberta did have a pipe mill capable at one time but it was a Crown and was sold off and torn down.

Crown operated...why that's Eastern thinking that is! *scary music* Eeeeast.

Jeez, Durry forbid we ever create good jobs...bad ole gubbermint has no right to do that!
 

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Want to know what even makes it funnier? The decomissioned plant was cut to pieces and sent to Regina to be made into pipe.
 

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Want to know what even makes it funnier? The decomissioned plant was cut to pieces and sent to Regina to be made into pipe.

AB has bigger fish to fry, gotta give some work to Sask...its otherwise they all move to AB to work.....lol!!
 

petros

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It gets better.... The former Crown reopened a sales office in Calgary to sell pipe made in Illinois.

Company Information
Ipsco Direct Inc
Address:
6002 Ogden Rd. S.E.,
Calgary AB,
T2C 2L7

Business Activity:
Distributor
Importer


ISO:
ISO 14001

Employees:
Approximately: two employees work at this location

Phone:
403-279-7775

Fax:
403-279-7797

TollFree:
1-800-667-1616

Well at least two people are still working.

TMK IPSCO will open new sales office in Calgary - News Archive
 

Durry

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Now now Petros , don't get carried away spreading inaccurate information.
The pipe mill in Regina are owned by Americans in Chicago, Illinois..