Canada-To-U.S. Pipeline Project Newest Front in Climate Clash

petros

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How many people can be fed off of the grain taken to fill one car's tank with renewable E85?

How many litres of fuel go into producing one bushel of wheat?
 

mentalfloss

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How many people can be fed off of the grain taken to fill one car's tank with renewable E85?

How many litres of fuel go into producing one bushel of wheat?


 

mentalfloss

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Get rid of "green" scams like bio-fuels and pollution permit buying and selling? In a heartbeat.

The longer people are distracted by oil, the more green scams you can expect because they aren't the focus of the public. Lower our dependency, and we begin to concentrate on legitimate alternate solutions.

I agree that cap n' trade isn't the right model.
 

ironsides

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The thing is that the pipeline would only be really good for the economy in the short term. After a decade it actually becomes a handicap to both parties involved.
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Maybe true, but we need that decade in order to get through this economic crisis. Oil will still be our main source of power for at least the next 50+ years.
 

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From the Scientific American:

"NEW YORK—Further development of Alberta's famous oil sands will be neither the climate disaster that activists fear nor the energy security panacea that proponents suggest it is, the Council on Foreign Relations concludes in a new report.

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Importing more oil from Canada and less from the Middle East would also probably drive down the United States' current account deficit, the scholar writes. Due to the close proximity of the two North American countries and their tight trading relationship, money diverted to Canada to purchase energy is much more likely to be recycled back into the U.S. economy through direct purchases of goods and services than if that same capital is sent to Saudi Arabia and other OPEC states.

And despite fears by climate change activists that increased oil sand production has profoundly negative consequences to global warming, Alberta's massive reserve base contributes relatively little to the problem at a global scale, Levi says.

Though increasing oil sands production, which many expect will triple by 2030, will grow Canada's greenhouse gas emissions to a huge extent if business-as-usual practices continue, the added carbon dioxide emissions are marginal in the U.S. and global contexts. Studies show CO2 output from oil sands production is equivalent to 0.5 percent of U.S. aggregate emissions from energy use and less than 0.1 percent of total global emissions."



Will Canada's Tar Sands Destroy the Global Climate?: Scientific American

For our edification, a map of all the pre-existing pipelines currently running through the Ogallala Aquifier:

http://www.transcanada.com/docs/Key_Projects/Ogallala_Aquifer_Map.pdf