ABEXIT - is it time for Alberta to think about leaving Canada?

spilledthebeer

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The original Hudson's Bay charter was for the drainage basin of Hudson's Bay ... which Alaska is not a part of.

http://www.hbcheritage.ca/things/artifacts/the-royal-charter

General comprehention is hard for you.




Isnt it odd????????????????????????????????



Some people will call Russians "squatters" in Alaska.....................................


and yet they dont think Putin is dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

petros

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We shut down our steel mills because pieces of shit Americans came up here, bought them, then shut them down. I guess that we were a bit too good at making steel in Canada.
Evraz has been expanding and is cranking out 300+mt an hour.

100% recycled steel cooked with clean and green wind, co-gen, hydro and carbon captured coal.

Arcelor Mittal is doing just fine too and is recycling using hydro.

SO2 Cap and Trade killed the Canadian new steel industry and Carbon taxes entombed it to history.
 

MHz

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The original Hudson's Bay charter was for the drainage basin of Hudson's Bay ... which Alaska is not a part of.

http://www.hbcheritage.ca/things/artifacts/the-royal-charter

General comprehention is hard for you.
Granted by King Charles II of England on May 2, 1670, the Royal Charter gave an exclusive trading monopoly over the entire Hudson Bay drainage basin to “the Governor and Company of Adventurers of England trading into Hudson Bay.”



The Dutch war to grab all 'East-India trading posts' around the globe was a done deal. Any trading posts after that point would be run by the Dutch no matter what boats were showing up. They are considered to be 'hired hands' rather than they were free to go in any direction they chose. South Africa was exploited in the same way, only a lot faster.

The trading saw them get garbage in return for items that were of great value to the elite. The garment industry is a Jewish Monopoly and has been even long than banking has been. That should also mean that the buffalo hides would also have ended up with them and turned into clothes and sold for a large profit. Pete's folks made a 500% profit when the real value of the land went from pasture to wasteland.

Most South American countries are now trying to restrict foreign companies from being able to develop anything within 200km of the shoreline. That would be based on the past experiences.
 

MHz

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Evraz has been expanding and is cranking out 300+mt an hour.

100% recycled steel cooked with clean and green wind, co-gen, hydro and carbon captured coal.

Arcelor Mittal is doing just fine too and is recycling using hydro.

SO2 Cap and Trade killed the Canadian new steel industry and Carbon taxes entombed it to history.
Does that include greenhouses to capture the CO2?

Where is all the metal going, in Canada or is the export market taking it as a raw product?

Taking hemp from no place to being farmed at 21st century standards would keep designers and manufacturers busy for 20 years at that rate and it is all used in house. The return for a $20B investment, an industry based on renewable raw resources and in a volume that would employ more than Detroit Auto makers ever did. The competition has to dry up on it's own rather than collapse due to a better product being marketed.



Canada's industries fit in with global manufacturing rather than we produce what we want and the world just happens to need that when it becomes available.
When heavy oil from Venezuela became unavailable the US upped the export from Ft Mac. At the same time they cut the oil and gas imports so overall Canada saw no increase in exports. That is because the global market is already a monopoly where all moves help the monopoly rather than the customers it should serve. When viewed like that you should be able to predict what projects will go a head and what will be put on the back burner. Electric cars would seem to be going to the back burner now they know how to build them they can move onto another R&D program the public will be suckered into funding. If that is the case hemp would make a great product to research only it would grow rather than get shut down. We don't have that kind of permission so the existing options are part of the 'pay to play'.

Marketing the tar sands as 'water-proof gravel' would have waterlogged countries ordering it for building roads across 'muck'. With some matting you can control the depth needed, without the matting you use as much as needed, when it stays above the much that is the right amount.
 

MHz

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... and then along came Neiman-Marcus ...
Who buys furs, the garment industry or saddle makers? Why would the Dutch East-India Company allow the UK to go rouge and exploit anyplace, even the coldest place on the planet. Why would the UK do that an not take something that is warmer rather than take the warmer places if not under orders?
Today the people in the North would be able to present a case to the UN that show intentional harm that is against what are deemed basic rights. Canada is loaded with money so a huge fine would be a suitable sign that the wrongs are recognized and money it the only way to take the pain away. In the past the money went in a circle so what the Gov handed out it collected again, that money would allow the north to create it's own supply lines rather than live in the slums the Gov created for them. The leader of Canada would have a space of 10 ft around him that no other world leader would enter, that is how bad what we have been doing is.
 
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MHz

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The HBC subsidiary Northwest Company and Ruperts Land handled the rest.
At it's earliest the owners would been from Europe and they never sell any company. Canada at that time could have been UK money, not paid to themselves. The sale of the land would have give the same entity to hire lots of immigrants to come to a 'free land' while in the EU stealing a slice of bread could get your hands cut-off. It wouldn't take much to see who was investing a lot of money in a place that was not being developed even after 200 years of having control of it. To find a similar place you have to visit Niger, Africa or Haiti.
 

spilledthebeer

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The HBC subsidiary Northwest Company and Ruperts Land handled the rest.




So you are saying "NI" here numbskull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ruperts Land WAS PART OF THE HBC Charter..................................



SPECIFYING "lands whose waters drain into Hudsons Bay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for the Northwest Company..................................


IT WAS NEVER A SUBSIDIARY OF HBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS I have mentioned before - writer Peter C. Newman has written an excellent biography of the history of HBC...................................


and Newman makes it VERY CLEAR that there was MURDEROUS COMPETITION BETWEEN HBC and Nor`westers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Newman documents a wide assortment of murders and LYNCHINGS and various violent attacks and sieges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After many decades of vicious fighting.....................................................


HBC and North West Company MADE PEACE and joined forces !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Shortly after that Ottawa bought out the HBC charter...........



and "Ruperts Land" became CDN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Curious Cdn

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The HBC and the NWC ended up as the same mercantile company in the end, like Sears-Roebuck, Neiman-Marcus, Baskin-Robbins, A&W ...
 

spilledthebeer

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The HBC and the NWC ended up as the same mercantile company in the end, like Sears-Roebuck, Neiman-Marcus, Baskin-Robbins, A&W ...




Oh Clueless Comrade................................


THAT IS WHAT I SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The FORMER VICIOUS competitors ended up joining forces.................................


just about when Beaver hats went out of style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

Curious Cdn

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Oh Clueless Comrade................................


THAT IS WHAT I SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The FORMER VICIOUS competitors ended up joining forces.................................


just about when Beaver hats went out of style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The exchange rate of beaver-pelts-to-Brown-Bess-muskets collapsed as a result.
 

JLM

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I think it would be interesting but I really wouldn't know how to start. Also the problem of time and money.


Who but a real sleaze bag would urge you to press that claim unless they are willing to contribute about $10 million to the cause?
 

spilledthebeer

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The exchange rate of beaver-pelts-to-Brown-Bess-muskets collapsed as a result.




WHY YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Rather like the SUDDENLY WORTHLESS LIE-beral policies............................................


that DIED ALONG WITH Kinder Morgan pipeline..................................................



Lavalin corporate stock after the LIES AND BRIBERY WERE EXPOSED..........................


and LIE-beral chances of another majority govt aint looking so healthy either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But hey Comrade Curious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy STILL HAS A BETTER SHOT.......................................


for a second term in office.......................................


than YOUR IDOL Joe Clark..............................................WHO?????????????????????????????????
 

B00Mer

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AHHH HA! HA! HA!..

Crossing the border, the border guard said we would love to get Alberta..

Then he replied, I always thought if we really wanted Canada we could send up the Salvation Army to take it over... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re-Elect Trudeau and Alberta will be known as the 51st State.

Eh Bi-curious..

 

Curious Cdn

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AHHH HA! HA! HA!..
Crossing the border, the border guard said we would love to get Alberta..
Then he replied, I always thought if we really wanted Canada we could send up the Salvation Army to take it over... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re-Elect Trudeau and Alberta will be known as the 51st State.
Eh Bi-curious..
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