There is no need to collect anybodyís writings, Gilbert. Koran is available on line for free. Same with Bible, and Holy Books of most religions, they are available for free online.
Try to understand what I am going to tell you here, Joe: I was joking.
So you like straightlining jokes and stating the obvious?
Indonesia is quite Muslim too by the way, and yet quite different in its understanding of Shari'a as Saudis for example.
Machjo, Indonesia is an oddball, and totally different from other Muslim countries (it is the biggest Muslim country in the world). It used to be Hindu before converting to Islam, and even today one can see strong influence of Hinduism there. Indonesians themselves say that their religion is Islam, but their culture is Hindu.
They still perform plays based upon Hindu epics Ramayana and Mahabharata, one sees them everywhere. People there have Sanskrit names for the most part. I remember a few years ago they convicted a terrorist, his name was Imam Samudra, a Sanskrit word for ocean.
Indonesian airline is Garuda, a Sanskrit word for an eagle. Even their currency is called Rupiah, which is a Sanskrit word. Indian currency used to be called Rupiah, but British changed the name to rupee, and Indians havenít changed it back yet.
Perhaps because of the strong influence of Hinduism, there isnít as much terrorism in Indonesia as there is in other Islamic countries.
The diversity among Muslims is not that widespread. There may be a few who think that Koran doesn’t give man a permission to eat his wife, or that Koran says that a man is allowed only one wife, but they are in distinct minority.
Genius, yes; gargantuan and gigantic, no.
Books available online? Whooda thunk it?
Anyway, There are a few religions around that don't think degrading women is a good idea: Buddhism, Paganism, Jainism, etc.
It may be too much to take in for that genius brain of yours (you denied gargantuan and gigantic, so I will stick to genius), but not everything is available on internet. Offhand I can name several books which are not available on internet.
Buddhism, Paganism (what is that?), Jainism donít think degrading women is a good idea? Donít you believe it, they all consider women to be second class citizens. Hinduism is the worst culprit of them all (I said something good about Hinduism, it is only fair that I bash it now, I am an equal opportunity basher), worse even than Islam and Christianity.
As a renowned expert on Religions could you enlighten those of us in the darkness of believers on how you would rate the major Religions on their treatment of women -
I didn't say I was better or worse.Quote has been trimmed, See full post:
I just said that 'christians' weren't necessarily better than muslims.
You are quite right, tenpenny, human nature is the same everywhere. However, while Christians may not be better than Muslims, there is a big difference between Christianity and Islam.
To be fair, Bible is fully as vicious towards women as Koran, Bible regards wife as her husbandís servant, her husbandís property and commands a woman to be submissive to her husband. However, Christians have had the Reformation. These days, very few Christians take the Bible literally. Even those who claim to be Fundamentalists, are not really Fundamentalists, they interpret the Bible same as everybody else (e.g. I doubt if even a Fundamentalist would take the Biblical quote ĎThou shalt not suffer a witch to liveí seriously). So, many Christians do not believe that women are inferior to men, no mater what the Bible says. Or how many Churches observe Paulís diktat, let a woman be seen but not heard in a church? Only the most extreme churches do.
But Islam never had a Reformation. Most Imams, Mullahs and Ayatollahs take Koran literally. People are easily influenced by the clerics. So when clerics say that is it OK for a man to beat his wife because Koran says so, the society at large goes along.
Muslims need a Reformation, same as Christian, they have to learn not...
Christianity regards wife as her husband’s servant, or his property. Thus in the 10th Commandant (I looked it up, I don’t know all the Commandments by heart, just a few of them) it lumps the wife together with servants, ox, donkey or any other things that belong to the neighbour. Thou shalt not covet etc.
I'm not sure what you think the reformation (schism) was SJP but it does smack a little of devine intervention. Are you intimating that this is the case?