#901
Re: Israel...
Mar 1st, 2009
What kind of a friend tries to frame you for murder?
Israel...
#902
Re: Israel...
Mar 1st, 2009
A friend will help you move your furniture, a real friend will help you move a body.
#903
Re: Israel...
Mar 1st, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
Oh, that their were many "citizen's of convenience"Just what does that statement actually mean?
Are you hinting that those were 'fake Canadians' or that a 'real Canadian' would never visit Lebanon?
Did you read the story, the Israeli Secret Service was using Canadian passports to get close to a person so they could kill him. Please wipe the sleep from your eyes.
If you come to Canada as a resident, and stay just long enough to get citizenship, then leave immediately (like book the flight as the same day as the oath) to return to your home country. I think its pretty stupid to call that person a Canadian in all but a legal sense.
They are only Canadians when travelling across borders or having us pay to get them out of harms way. We spent millions bringing scores of "Canadian Citizens" out of harms way from lebannon, then with weeks almost all had returned. Never once having paid one dime in their whole lives to Canada.
#904
Re: Israel...
Mar 1st, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Zzarchov
Oh, okay it's much clearer now, their deaths were their own fault. The fact that they were not engaged in any activities that were dangerous to Israel is more or less beside the point. I'll have to try that sometime, say my tires get slashed and I know it was somebody from a few blocks north of where I live so I'll just go over to that block and slash every tire on every vehicle on that block (and maybe a few more blocks just to make sure i get the right one). If I happen to get a few tires that belong to people who used to live there a few years ago and are just back for a visit then it's their own damn fault for being there, once they moved they should have stayed gone.Oh, that their were many "citizen's of convenience"
If you come to Canada as a resident, and stay just long enough to get citizenship, then leave immediately (like book the flight as the same day as the oath) to return to your home country. I think its pretty stupid to call that person a Canadian in all but a legal sense.
They are only Canadians when travelling across borders or having us pay to get them out of harms way. We spent millions bringing scores of "Canadian Citizens" out of harms way from lebannon, then with weeks almost all had returned. Never once having paid one dime in their whole lives to Canada.
Is that about the jest of the situation? What do you think the cops would say if you phoned to see if that sort of action would be tolerated?
#905
Re: Israel...
Mar 1st, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
What the hell are you talking about?Oh, okay it's much clearer now, their deaths were their own fault. The fact that they were not engaged in any activities that were dangerous to Israel is more or less beside the point. I'll have to try that sometime, say my tires get slashed and I know it was somebody from a few blocks north of where I live so I'll just go over to that block and slash every tire on every vehicle on that block (and maybe a few more blocks just to make sure i get the right one). If I happen to get a few tires that belong to people who used to live there a few years ago and are just back for a visit then it's their own damn fault for being there, once they moved they should have stayed gone.
Is that about the jest of the situation? What do you think the cops would say if you phoned to see if that sort of action would be tolerated?
I say "They are abusing our passports"
you respond "then they deserved it"
How about I say "2 plus 2 is 4"
and you respond with
"Peanut butter is stickier than road salt"
because thats the type of unrelated gibberish you are responding to statements with.
I can't respond to anything you say..because it in no way has any connection to the post it is quoting. It is literally gibberish, did you post it in the wrong thread?
Was this meant to reply to someone elses post and you hit the wrong quote button? The words themselves follow normal sentance structure..they just don't address in any way the post you are quoting.
The debate (when I joined) was about how Israel can be a friend when an alleged Mossad agent used a Canadian passport. If I recall he was an Israeli-Canadian Dual Citizen, but was for all intents and purposes just Israeli and shouldn't use a Canadian passport (a fair claim)
Then the counter claim is those "Canadians" in Lebannon sure as hell shouldn't be called Canadians either since their claim to being Canadian is no greater than the Mossad agents.
Last edited by Zzarchov; Mar 1st, 2009 at 09:49 PM..
#906
Re: Israel...
Mar 1st, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Zzarchov
Obviously they were issued those passports by the proper Canadian authorities, who cares if they decided to use then to go and visit some people in Lebanon. They were using them as they were intended to be used, they were in Canada long enough to fulfill all requirements, that is why they can be properly called Canadian. That title isn't withheld until the 3rd or 4th generation. Neighbors are apt to apply that standard though.What the hell are you talking about?
I say "They are abusing our passports"
Now Mossad did none of the things that are required by Canadian Law to be entitled to be in possession of a valid Canadian passport, basically making them spies who actually should have been brought to Canada shot dead.
Quote: Originally Posted by Zzarchov
Then the counter claim is those "Canadians" in Lebannon sure as hell shouldn't be called Canadians either since their claim to being Canadian is no greater than the Mossad agents.[/quote]The debate (when I joined) was about how Israel can be a friend when an alleged Mossad agent used a Canadian passport. If I recall he was an Israeli-Canadian Dual Citizen, but was for all intents and purposes just Israeli and shouldn't use a Canadian passport (a fair claim)
Yes there claim is a lot more valid, not alleged spy (is Colpy prompting you), he was a spy.
"Kill Khalid also provides startling new detail on the anxieties in Jean Chrétien's Ottawa, where government mandarins were in a frenzy to get their hands on the forgedpassports. McGeough takes us inside the king's palace for the clandestine handover of the crucial documents to Canadian officials – and how Canadian intelligence officials mounted a near-military operation to get them home to Ottawa, braced for counterattack at every stage of the journey."
Their claim is valid as they were legal citizens of a country called Canada.
Your contention that they were not Canadians is wrong on all accounts.
#907
Re: Israel...
Mar 10th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Zzarchov
Well in this case these "citizen's of convenience" as you belittle them lived in Montreal. They were visiting relatives in Lebanon during their summer vacation when they found themselves on the front lines.Oh, that their were many "citizen's of convenience"
If you come to Canada as a resident, and stay just long enough to get citizenship, then leave immediately (like book the flight as the same day as the oath) to return to your home country. I think its pretty stupid to call that person a Canadian in all but a legal sense.
They are only Canadians when travelling across borders or having us pay to get them out of harms way. We spent millions bringing scores of "Canadian Citizens" out of harms way from lebannon, then with weeks almost all had returned. Never once having paid one dime in their whole lives to Canada.
Quote:
Yes our government should have stood up for these Canadian citizens.Quote has been trimmed
Seven members of the Al-Akhrass family, including four young children, were on vacation when they were killed Sunday as Israel bombed the southern Lebanese village of Aitaroun.
Hussein Al-Akhrass, the children's uncle, told a Montreal news conference Monday his family were begging the Canadian government to "put pressure on Israel to stop this barbaric behaviour."
"Israel is bombing civilian people and we should not accept that," he told reporters.
Amira Al-Akhrass and her four Canadian-born children Salaan, 1, Ahamed, 3, Zeinab, 5, and Saja, 7, perished in their ancestral home near the Israeli border, around 50 kilometres south of Beirut.
Two other relatives of the Al-Akhrass family were also killed and another three, including the children's father, Ali Al-Akhrass, were injured in the attack.
Over the past six days, 24 Israelis -- including 12 civilians killed by Hezbollah rocket attacks -- and at least 210 Lebanese have been killed in the fighting. All about 10 of the Lebanese deaths have been civilians, with nine Lebanese soldiers dying and one Hezbollah fighter. Hezbollah claims another two of their fighters have been killed. Besides the Canadians, two Kuwaitis, an Iraqi and a Sri Lankan are among the foreign dead.
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