Re: Israel...
May 11th, 2008Think about that for a minute."
Who? Lunatic Bush who lied and killed over 1 million Iraqis after declaring his evil intentions in the Downing Street memo?
eao: Why didn't we complain when the US and Israel armed opposition forces in a blatant attempt to overthrow Palestine's democratically elected government?
Hamas didn't start the violence which led to their military take over of Gaza. Violence erupted when anti-democratic forces backed by Israel and the US attempted to overthrow the democratically elected Palestinian government. In the end the side with the support of the majority of people (Hamas) won in Gaza but lost in the West Bank.
Colpy: Do you REALLY believe that? If so, you're simply hopeless.
26 January 2006
Hamas sweeps to election victory
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Hamas seizes U.S. weapons
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Terrorist: We'll hijack all American weapons provided to Abbas' militias
May 14, 2007
TEL AVIV -- Hamas yesterday ambushed a convoy in the Gaza Strip and seized a stockpile of U.S. weapons transferred in recent months to militias associated with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party, according to Hamas and Fatah sources.
"We obtained the U.S. weapons and will keep hijacking any assistance the Americans provide to Fatah. Our fighters are aware of the American and Israeli conspiracies to topple our government. We're trained and well prepared to defeat the American-backed (Palestinian) agents," said a top member of Hamas' so-called military wing in the Gaza Strip.
According to Israeli and Palestinian security officials and Hamas sources, Hamas militias in recent months have taken almost complete control of the northern Gaza Strip, including areas from which rockets are launched regularly into nearby Jewish communities. The officials said Fatah, which is backed by the U.S., is restricted to acting within a half-mile radius of a major Fatah military compound. Hamas has set up roadblocks and checkpoints throughout northern Gaza to ensure Fatah militias remain near their compound.
07/01/2007
Three Hamas militants killed in clashes with Fatah in Gaza Strip
By Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondent, and News Agencies
Three Hamas militants were killed and five were wounded Saturday evening in clashes with a Fatah-related family hours after Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas declared Hamas security forces in Gaza illegal.
The militants, all members of the the Diri family, were killed in an exchange of fire between Hamas and members of the Durmush family, some of whom are affiliated with Fatah, in the Sabra neighborhood of Gaza City.
Four Hamas militants were kidnapped during the incident.
Another member of Hamas was kidnapped in a separate incident in the Gaza Strip. No further details were available. Earlier, two Hamas officials were kidnapped in separate incidents in the West Bank.
In Nablus, an An- Najah National University lecturer affiliated with Hamas was wounded by six militants apparently belonging to Fatah's Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
The lecturer, Marwan Kadoumi, was shot in his legs when the militants entered his home. He was evacuated to the hospital in moderate condition.
Earlier Saturday, pro-Fatah gunmen attacked Hamas officials in two separate incidents in the West Bank, security officials said...
...Fighting between Abbas's Fatah faction and Hamas has surged since talks on forming a unity government collapsed and Abbas called for early parliamentary and presidential elections. Hamas accused Abbas of mounting a coup...
Abbas says Hamas security force in Gaza is illegal
In a statement released on Saturday, Abbas declared that Hamas security forces in Gaza not integrated with PA forces would now be considered illegal....
Hamas: U.S. is funding a 'revolt' against our government
Senior Hamas official Mushir al-Masri blamed the U.S. on Friday for attempting to promote a revolt against the Hamas government, after U.S. documents showed that the Bush administration will provide $86.4 million to strengthen security forces loyal to Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas.
"We demand that Abbas reject this U.S. policy, which is tearing the Palestinian people apart," he said.
The new policy would expand U.S. involvement in Abbas' power struggle with Hamas....
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60 years ago today Israel became a state. That's what I heard in the news. Amid the celebrations looms the Olmert bribery scandal. Al Jazera has inside knowledge he might step down and will likely be replaced by Zivi Livni.~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Looks like they need a major clean-up! But what is the use?
Police seize more Olmert papers
Mr Olmert denies the accusations that he accepted bribes
Israeli police have raided the Ministry of Industry and Trade as a corruption investigation into Prime Minister Ehud Olmert continues, official radio says.
The raid follows one on Jerusalem's city hall on Monday.
He is suspected of accepting bribes from a American Jewish businessman during his time as Jerusalem mayor and later as a minister.
Mr Olmert is already being investigated in several other corruption scandals.
Police questioned Mr Talansky on Monday and have asked him to remain in Israel until later in the month.
Morris "Moshe" Talansky - a New York-based financier - is said to have given hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash to Mr Olmert at a series of meetings in the 1990s and early 2000s.

After reading many posts and comments, MikeyDB consistantly demonstrates his superior mental and verbal abillities.He does not need to demonstrate a notion of self- superiority by informing others that he is well educated knowing all or stammer "That this is the silliest post I have ever read".
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COLPY- You referred to me as a JEW Hater. Go get your proof and post it. OR, is slander also part of your intelligent debating?
Does the below make me a Jew Hater?
ALL holocausts can be scrutinised, investigated, researched and questioned. Whether it is the 15 million German Holocaust victims or the 54 million Russian Holocaust victims in the ex-Soviet-Union, ordered by mostly Jewish commissioners. Regardless which Holocaust we want to study, the Armenian-Holocaust, the Cossack-Holocaust, the Negro-Holocaust caused by Jewish slave traders, the Cambodian-Holocaust, the Chinese-Holocaust, all Holocausts can be questioned – except the Jewish-holocaust.
No investigations or scientific researches are allowed! The "Central Council of Jews in Germany" screams immediately, to bring holocaust-heretics "to justice", if anyone dares to question certain holocaust stories. The...

You are a Jew hater.
If that shocks you, you need to take a long look in the mirror.
First, you deny the most horrible genocide in history was all that bad, and you cling to ridiculous web sites and silliness to support your claim, such as a sign outside Auschwitz.....I roll my eyes.
Then you quote things such as the above piece of drivel.....which blames Jews for "the 54 million Russianm Holocaust", the "negro Holocaust" (the slave trade)....the might as well cry out "the damned Jews deserved it!"
Spare me your bull****.
I only talked about my education when challenged about my knowledge......and yes, it is significant that I actually studied history........
instead of trying to pervert it.

Some update!!Haha... he and Mulrooney should go to bed together!!!
They've got a lot in common.Read full article here:
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By most measures, the Jewish state is a great success story. The modern Middle East is the misbegotten progeny of the British and French colonial map makers of 1922. All the nation states in that neck of the woods date back a mere 60 or 70 years – Iraq to the Thirties, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Israel to the Forties. The only difference is that Israel has made a go of it.
Would I rather there were more countries like Israel, or more like Syria? Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East (Iraq may yet prove a second), and its Arab citizens enjoy more rights than they would living under any of the kleptocrat kings and psychotic dictators who otherwise infest the region.
On a tiny strip of land narrower at its narrowest point than many American townships, Israel has built a modern economy with a GDP per capita just shy of $30,000 – and within striking distance of the European Union average. If you object that that’s because it’s uniquely blessed by Uncle Sam, well, for the past 30 years the second-largest recipient of U.S. aid has been Egypt: their GDP per capita is $5,000, and America has nothing to show for its investment other than one-time pilot Mohamed Atta coming at you through the office window.

Colpy --I greatly admire your justification for calling me a Jew Hater. It certainly evidences your great knowledge of History as presented by Zionists. Don't think, just rely on your education. Fortunately the majority of Jews think more than you and the vast majority are human, kind hard working people.

Determined Holocaust denial in the fact of historical evidence indicates a bit of a problem with Jews......

Colpy, are you on record as officially supporting Israel as described in this video?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...CoPoqgOppJW1CQ

, as it were.
"Before Zionist settlers came here, around the turn of the century. This region was not particularly known for strife"
Ya OK, great grasp of historic accuracy.
I'm not surprised you find this piece both informative and useful MHz. Much like most of you, it lacks both accuracy and any form truth.

Thanks for the link that disputes that statement.
Sounds like a real hell-hole, not.
Educate yourself by reading about events past that little quote above.
Man you give this smilie a workout.From the Arab conquest to 1900

Colpy, are you on record as officially supporting Israel as described in this video?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...CoPoqgOppJW1CQ

Have you ever stopped the steamroller long enough to consider that it also indicates someone doesn't believe the myth the grudge has become? It happened. Get over it. Today is a new day. Interpreting that someone has grown tired of same ol' same ol' as: "You have a problem with Jews." is about the little minded drivel I have come to expect from all things Israel in the world according to that steamroller.

Amazing how sides are taken in something where everyone is to blame. There are no good guys, just politics.
Thus it is the reason peace will never be achieved.....at least not without a huge war.
The lefties hate the Jews and the Righties hate the Muslims.

It depends on the mindset of the people involved and the observer and the POV they already have. But I would agree with you anyways.
That is a very scary thought and I hope and pray you are wrong.
LOL...I think Not. I think people have drawn lines on what they believe to be the truths of the matter. The facts seem to somewhere in the middle.
It is more then fair to say that until all the parties involved rethink their particular strategies and their ideologies. We will not see an end to the bickering.
I say let facts prevail. And where there are none, cooperation and peace be the guiding light. No matter the ideology or theology.

You are defending a guy who claims that about 1/2 at least of the Jewish holocaust didn't happen based solely on a sign stuck outside Auschwitz by the communist government of Poland.
There is no myth, only the denial of truth as the foundation of a structure to discredit and undermine the Jews in general, and Israel in particular.
As soon as these guys stop claiming it didn't happen, or wasn't very serious, I'll stop defending the truth.

Colp ... will you stop being a freaking idiot for long enough to understand I am NOT taking sides?
The myth comes in constant ommissions of other thousands who suffered just as greatly in the Holocost. The myth comes when a grudge is the sole reason for being of an entire mation. The myth comes in a people who claim to be persecuted yet deploy the sons of sons of victims to accost an ancient man for doing what he had to to survive a terrible era. There is no way one can really deny it happened. It is only too easy to wonder if some may very well have been elaborated upon for dramatic purpose
You'll stop defending the truth. Do you even know what the truth is?