It's not the dog ... it's how the dog is raised.
Wolf
there was pumpkin in every corner of the room. That damn thing waited for me to leave so it could have a showdown with the pumpkin. There was even pumpkin on the ceiling.
that's baloney. Genetics is a HUGE factor in aggression and volatility.
I'll trust a disciplined German Shepherd over a spoiled Pekenese any day.... ;-)
Wolf
So pit bulls are genetically prone to attacking...is this really true...
Dogs are dogs are dogs. Little dogs in my experience are typically highstrung inbred little wastes of fur, which are highly prone to bite at ankles, or if you're a small kid, asses. I've even seen a ****zu go at a kid's face once when a game of tug-of-war got out of hand. They're dogs. They're governed by strong instincts, and pack rules we often don't fully understand. But I've never seen a small, highstrung, out of control dog do as much damage on its worst day, as the damage I've seen well trained big dogs bring about unexpectedly when their pack rules are infringed upon.
Should that have been written in sarcastic purple?
If Genetics of an animal don't matter or make a dog prone to violence, I guess that genetics then never matter no matter how far you drift.
Surely then I could own a wolverine and it would all be about training if it was aggressive and violent. Or a Jaguar, or a Komodo Dragon.
If genetics don't matter at all in the narrow band (within dog subspecies) then they must not ever matter even when you get into different and completely urnelated species.
Genetics matter when you are dealing with what are by and large different species.
If Genetics of an animal don't matter or make a dog prone to violence, I guess that genetics then never matter no matter how far you drift.
Surely then I could own a wolverine and it would all be about training if it was aggressive and violent. Or a Jaguar, or a Komodo Dragon.
If genetics don't matter at all in the narrow band (within dog subspecies) then they must not ever matter even when you get into different and completely urnelated species.
Genetics matter when you are dealing with what are by and large different species.
It even knew it's place in the hierachy of the dobermans....This you might find interesting.
His one top bitch had rule of the house. she slept in the living room , wandered round.Ate in the kitchen.
Then in the basement the others slept in cages. then there were still others that slept and lived in the kennel outside with the beagels. At one time he had 65 beagels...He also raised Black and Tans , and German short haired pointers....He was the vice president of the Coon hounds of eastern canada....
Any way i really don't know about pit bulls , i asked in another thread...i wasn't being sarcastic karrie.....whats with the purple...it's been mentioned as the color of choice for sarcasm....I'm afraid i shall use it all up if i get into this.
Is there a science to this?
Hard scientific fact?
Opinion and having a nice pit bull that never bit anyone is not really science.
The government banned these animals from being bred in ontario...i believe...it sort of sounds inane so i don't even remember if they really passed it for it's so crazy....
I've seen shows on it doc, and while I used to agree with you, I've been convinced that it's not a crazy thing to ban their breeding. Think about the way a pitbull looks. It's jaws and neck have been tailored over time to possess a higher crushing power than anyother dog breed. Rottweillers come close. The shorter muzzle, broad jaws, and thick neck give it major power. Add to that the sheer statistics on the matter (which put pitbulls and rotties as responsible for over 2/3 of dog bite deaths), and it's pretty hard to ignore the fact that it's a public problem. A lot of the laws surrounding them are pretty reasonable. If you owned a pitbull before the law passed banning them, then you could keep it, so long as you had a behavioral analysis to show that it wasn't a public hazard. It's buying or breeding new ones that was banned, and frankly, I don't see that as a problem considering the damage I've seen from these animals.
See what I mean by polarized?
Because you lack the experience and the knowledge, you can not own anything like a wolverine, Jaguar or Komodo Dragon. But that is not to say no one else could.
For example, all the animals used in movies. One of my favorites was Bart the bear. http://www.vitalground.org/ambassadors/bart_the_bear.html
If in face it's all genetic and no environment, explain this and others like him.
The only problem with breed banning is it treats the symptom and not the cause. So in the end, you haven't really solved anything at all.
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Dogs that were used for pit fighting in the old days would never consider biting a person. It was the norm for the owner of the other dog to wash yours while you washed his before a match to ensure that things were on the up and up. Though experienced handlers, no dog would ever bite or it was removed from the pit. So originally pitbulls were never bred for human aggression.
It's this fear some have of the big bad world about them that drives the uneducated to start messing with something and turning it into a problem. This is what has happened to a great many number of dogs. Pitbulls are ground zero for misinformation, abusive training, out right bad breeding and over blown hysteria..