Are the Nation of Islam (NOI) a real and recognized branch of the Muslim faith? I thought muslims werent supposed to be racist, but apparently this branch of muslims are...
Can someone clarify this for me?
So muslims are actually racist?
eanassir so then other muslims accept the NOI for being racists? Are you racist do you hate me cause im white :lol:...
I take it when these guys make the pilgramage to mecca they are received with open arms for representing islam as a racist religon?
Huh? This is gibberish (you understand what gibberish is?)In Islam, what is the correct way?There are many sects of Jews, Christians and Muslims.
The most correct among them may be one way: the devotion to God alone with no enthusiasm about patron saints, rabbis and imams; and they should believe in all the apostles including Mohammed and in all the revealed books including the Quran.
I'm sorry Selin, but there ARE racist statements in the Quran - many statements towards the Jewish tribes and Jews in general are indeed racist.I wish it were otherwiseNo, Johnnny. Muslims and doctrins of Islam, in fact, cannot be considered as racist but the policies and leaders of some countries who declare themselves as Muslim are racist so, what they do isn't appropriate to Islam itself but they made up a story a long time ago after Mohammed as Shariah by which they try to prove their actions-they consider it as the interpretation of Koran adding some customs of Arabians as well.
If you are a real Muslim , you should be more tolerate and patient as Mohammed wished and did. but nowadays ,some Muslims and leaders ignore that fact justifiying their acts putting forth Jihad.
?? Don't you mean prejudice?Joining any group is an act of exclusion (of anybody not of that group) be it religious, political, sports, race or service club. Attaching a label to oneself is an act of bigotry.
Joining any group is an act of exclusion (of anybody not of that group) be it religious, political, sports, race or service club. Attaching a label to oneself is an act of bigotry.
I'm sorry Selin, but there ARE racist statements in the Quran - many statements towards the Jewish tribes and Jews in general are indeed racist.I wish it were otherwise
A Muslim Jew-hater and supporter of genocide is flushed out.
YouTube - David Horowitz at UCSD 05 10 2010.avi
Not quite. It is no more racist than the Christian Faith or any other faith for that matter. Islam, as defined by its sacred texts, rejects racism altogether, but we can't judge a Faith by its followers. Islam cannot be judged by the Nation of Islam any more than the Christian Faith can be judged by the KKK.
You make a great point here. In fact I'll even give you a greenie!However I think that whereas the KKK is abhored by all the Nation is held at a higher level. They openly preach racism and recieve admiration from quite a few. It astounds me to hear some of their rhetoric. One Nation preacher (now deceased) had a video on youtube calling for the death of all white people making specific references to white women as they are the machines for giving birth to white people.
"Kill all them white women" he finished
Then he made reference to killing white babies because they grow up to be white devils.
"Kill all them white babies" he finished
The people who admire them would be the same who'd admire the KKK if they were white.
Though Muslims won't necessarily question the sincerity in the Nation of Islam's claim to profess Islam, they still reject its racist and violent rhetoric as anathema to Islam. Essentially, they're viewed by the majority of Muslims as misguided Muslims at best.
This is where I disagree. The Nation is dealt with kid gloves. They are coddled to a point. When the KKK has a rally full weight is brought against them as it should be. The Nation can have a million man march and be looked on as a group fighting for equal rights when in actuallity the Nation preaches black segregation and black supremacy and violence against white people.
It was the Nation that assasinated Malcolm X when he had a self reformation and disavowed racism.
The islam faith is not racist at all,but %90 of the followers are...(weird huh?)So it comes to whether you can judge a religion by its followers or not,my answer would be no,but i wouldnt be able to argue with you much if you said yes...So muslims are actually racist? And that stuff they spew about everyone being equal is bull****? Cause i seen a muslim on here call our science master a devil, does that stem from the teachings of islam also?
Or that right wing lunatics are not really conservatives? Or that charismatic Catholics are not true Catholics? Are Muslim terrorists any different than Christian terrorists? Do we paint all Muslims and Christians with the same brush? People come in all stripes, in varying shades of gray. Labels are not conducive to understanding and brotherhood.The claim that terrorist Muslims are not really Muslims is just about as ridiculous as Baptists or Pentecostals claiming that Roman Catholics are not really Christians.