ZED not ZEE...

Hard-Luck Henry

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Gordon J Torture said:
zed not zee

I like Zee, it rhymes better in the ABC song.

edit: Just realized Andygirl aready said this .. nm.

I notice that you use 'realized', where I would use 'realised'.

The use of 'ize' isn't considered an Americanism, though - British spelling recognises both forms (our spelling was never standardised in the way that American English was).

Using 'ise' has the advantage that lazy spellers do not have to remember that there are several important words which cannot properly be spelt with -ize. Some words are not formed by the addition of the -ize prefix to a stem, but by some other root which happens to end in the same syllable, such as -vise (as in televise), -cise (as in incise), and -prise (as in comprise).

The American system has resulted in the overuse of 'z' in some words where it did not originally belong. Writers of American English should be aware of some spellings that are regarded as incorrect in the UK, such as analyze.
 

zenfisher

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No realise in The Canadian Concise Dictionary Henry. I guess It is a N. American ideology.Hmmm... I wonder if realeyes would be possible... :wink:
 

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Haggis McBagpipe said:
FUDGESICLE

Canadians say fudge-icle, Americans say fudge-sicle, they pronounce the silent 's', the silly buggers. :cool:

Oddly enough, everyone I know in the Maritimes says "fudge-sicle", and I read in some article recently that NBers say "sneakers", which is considered an Americanism, too. And I know we've been doing that for 40 odd years, so TV wasn't a cause.
 

Haggis McBagpipe

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TenPenny said:
Haggis McBagpipe said:
FUDGESICLE

Canadians say fudge-icle, Americans say fudge-sicle, they pronounce the silent 's', the silly buggers. :cool:

Oddly enough, everyone I know in the Maritimes says "fudge-sicle", and I read in some article recently that NBers say "sneakers", which is considered an Americanism, too. And I know we've been doing that for 40 odd years, so TV wasn't a cause.

There are some real regional differences that way, aren't there. I've heard that there are a lot of Americans in some of the northeastern states who say 'eh'.
 

Hard-Luck Henry

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Re: RE: ZED not ZEE...

zenfisher said:
No realise in The Canadian Concise Dictionary Henry. I guess It is a N. American ideology.Hmmm... I wonder if realeyes would be possible... :wink:

No, nor in the Oxford English Dictionary that I use, zen. Like I say both are acceptable; as with most 'rules' in English spelling and grammar, I think the only rule is that you're consistent. The same rule applies with words like 'burnt/burned' or 'while/whilst' or double inverted commas ( " ) or single ( ' ).

Blah, it's all bollocks ... did someone say "real ales"? :p
 

BC Bob

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ive never heard "laundry machine" before, but i have heard of the laundry mat or laundro-mat. is this a new words canadians are starting to use? if so, ive never heard it myself.

i do sometimes, but only sometimes, say zee instead of zed but normally after being around americans or watching american tv me thinks.
 

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Re: RE: ZED not ZEE...

BC Bob said:
ive never heard "laundry machine" before, but i have heard of the laundry mat or laundro-mat. is this a new words canadians are starting to use? if so, ive never heard it myself.

i do sometimes, but only sometimes, say zee instead of zed but normally after being around americans or watching american tv me thinks.

Yeah, I did the same after I had moved to the US. No one here knows what ZED is, so everyone uses ZEE.

I also noticed how you reply back to a thank you down here is different from Canada. In Canada it is common practice to use "you're welcome" or "no problem". Here, is is very common to use "you bet". I've adpoted it myself.
 

#juan

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I use the correct spelling of all the words mentioned. :wink: One thing that most Americans, and some Canadians do that annoys the hell out of me is is the negligent use of "there" and "their", or "to", "too", and "two". The same people confuse "you're" with "your". I know, bitch bitch....... :wink:
 

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#juan said:
I use the correct spelling of all the words mentioned. :wink: One thing that most Americans, and some Canadians do that annoys the hell out of me is is the negligent use of "there" and "their", or "to", "too", and "two". The same people confuse "you're" with "your". I know, bitch bitch....... :wink:

Specific English words may have two or more recognized spelling forms, Juan. The British way or the American way. Canada has adopted the British way.

One notable example is the word center. Canadians and Brits prefer to spell it as centre. When I typed in "center" to search the on-line Merriam Webster dictionary I got 16 hits. I only got two hits when I typed "centre". So looks like the British (and Canadian)way is not the common way.
 

#juan

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Now now James,

We are talking about the english language here. English, not "American". That Americans have abused the language for over two hundred years doesn't make them right. Canada did not adopt the English language. Canada began as a British Colony and we are still a member of the British Commonwealth though the Commonwealth is now mostly ceremonial. We speak English or French. You can speak whatever you want, but you can't teach me English.
 

Hank C Cheyenne

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I grew up in Toledo, Ohio and was never aware that I had an accent till I moved to Canada..... I remember visiting family in Louisiana and buggin them about their thick accents....they use words like reckon and bicker ect...and kinda whistle when talking.

....here in Canada though most people say I got a accent....but if I try I could probably sound exactaly like a Canadian.... although I do find it awkward saying words like ZED and POP's..... and you always run into people who say "eh" after every sentence.

....another difference I noticed is that many Canadians seems to get awkward or shy when you say thank you or look them in the eye? ... and I also noticed that asking a Canadian who they voted for is considered rude? Kinda funny although Canadians and Americans have more in common than say British or Australians.
 

Ocean Breeze

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... and I also noticed that asking a Canadian who they voted for is considered rude?


Well.......it IS. (rude). Why do you think we have secret ballots???

for the most part it is rediculous to "wear your party on your sleeve. " A bit of dignity and respect goes a long way.
 

Hank C Cheyenne

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for the most part it is rediculous to "wear your party on your sleeve. " A bit of dignity and respect goes a long way.

Maybe you got the wrong impression..... obviously walking around asking people who they vote for is rude..... but im talking about folks that you know and see often.....ex) if you are dining with others in America usually most people are comfortable talking politics and not affraid to voice their opinions................or if you are at McDonalds sometimes people just spark up a debate about the daily politics....... while in Canada people are more reserved.

....ahh nothing like the sound of a fast food restraunt in the good ol USA....... the ol black guy noisily complaining about the food... the fat white people yelling at their kids... and the mexicans who cant speak english trying to place an order...I sure miss it
 

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Hank C Cheyenne said:
for the most part it is rediculous to "wear your party on your sleeve. " A bit of dignity and respect goes a long way.

Maybe you got the wrong impression..... obviously walking around asking people who they vote for is rude..... but im talking about folks that you know and see often.....ex) if you are dining with others in America usually most people are comfortable talking politics and not affraid to voice their opinions................or if you are at McDonalds sometimes people just spark up a debate about the daily politics....... while in Canada people are more reserved.

....ahh nothing like the sound of a fast food restraunt in the good ol USA....... the ol black guy noisily complaining about the food... the fat white people yelling at their kids... and the mexicans who cant speak english trying to place an order...I sure miss it

No insult intended..............but what is stopping ya from moving back??? If you are so unhappy in CA....... you sure don't have to stay here. We have enough belly aching without some former amerikans crying homesickness in their beer....

but back to the language issue....... as someone stated it is NOT English that is spoken in the US. ( not sure if it has a name yet.....;-).....but Yank-speak might do in a pinch. :wink:
 

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Hank C Cheyenne said:
....ahh nothing like the sound of a fast food restraunt in the good ol USA....... the ol black guy noisily complaining about the food... the fat white people yelling at their kids... and the mexicans who cant speak english trying to place an order...I sure miss it
What do you miss, Hank, the noise pollution or the racial stereotyping?


And I don't know many Canadians who say, "Eh?" after every sentence, either. What? What?
 

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zee vs. zed

What about Toronto radio stations, Zee 103dot5 or 97.3 toronto E-Zee Rock? I don't hear them pronounce zed 103dot5 or 97.3 E zed rock. Also, I hear people talk about Lay ZEE boy furnitures, not Lay ZED boy furnitures.