JonB2004, perhaps it would be best to cool off; as for you, Kreskin, I would think that you in this debate, at the very least, would know better than to attempt to drag on this low calibre of discussion from both sides.
Your Confidence in the Government
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On the upside, this is the first time, I think, that I have ever created a thread that has launched within range of its third page, there-abouts, within a few minutes of having posted it to the forum. 
I like this sort of "cut-and-thrust" debate, it's fun.
I like this sort of "cut-and-thrust" debate, it's fun.
Kreskin, I don't care for the direction in which Mr. Harper appears to be taking this Government. I don't think that we should be secluding our elected representatives from the press, nor do I think that the Ministers of the Crown, the Chief of the Defense Staff¹, and government employees wishing to publish their own science fiction stories should have to have their speeches approved, verbatim, by the Prime Minister of Canada.
The Parliament of Canada is not a one-man show and, with due respect to Mr. Harper, I think that his conduct in terms of his administration of the Government at this point is an affront to the proper functioning of the Westminster system.
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The Parliament of Canada is not a one-man show and, with due respect to Mr. Harper, I think that his conduct in terms of his administration of the Government at this point is an affront to the proper functioning of the Westminster system.
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Re: RE: Your Confidence in the Government
That stuff just doesn't register on my richter scale of things to worry about. If he can fend of organized kleptocracies he will have accomplished more than any PM in modern times.
FiveParadox said:
That stuff just doesn't register on my richter scale of things to worry about. If he can fend of organized kleptocracies he will have accomplished more than any PM in modern times.
I have extreme skepticism of any Prime Minister who would order those attending media availabilities to give the Government a list of reporters and questions, and to let that Government decide which persons and which questions are "appropriate". I think that this borders dangerously on a sort of media censorship that would be unprecended in modern times, in terms of coverage of the proceedings of governance.
The media can attend parliamentary sessions, can they not? Lets face it, the game the media plays is to try and get someone to say the wrong thing so they can put on the 5 o'clock news. If that is the bechmark for who we put in office the standard is very low.
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Jean the Don was and is scum.
He belongs in a prison cell.
His actions at APEC, his friendship with the fraudulent arsonist hotelier, his use of the RCMP as his personal goon squad, his vendetta against the former President of the BDC that (rightly) defied him, his strangulation assault on a citizen, his appointment of a minor mobster to the cabinet, his tolerance of mob connections in the Quebec wing of the party, his 100 million dollar last minute private jet buy, after cancelling helicopters for the military, his consistent abuse of the military, his lies, his thefts, his arrogance, his meglomania................the man is a heap of manure.
Even Trudeau was better.
edited to say...
VIVA HARPER!
JonB2004 said:
Jean the Don was and is scum.
He belongs in a prison cell.
His actions at APEC, his friendship with the fraudulent arsonist hotelier, his use of the RCMP as his personal goon squad, his vendetta against the former President of the BDC that (rightly) defied him, his strangulation assault on a citizen, his appointment of a minor mobster to the cabinet, his tolerance of mob connections in the Quebec wing of the party, his 100 million dollar last minute private jet buy, after cancelling helicopters for the military, his consistent abuse of the military, his lies, his thefts, his arrogance, his meglomania................the man is a heap of manure.
Even Trudeau was better.
edited to say...
VIVA HARPER!
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It was Trudeau that got the ball rolling towards the debt with his economics. When Mulroney came in the money was all tied up and his attempt to spend his way out only made the problem worse.
But in terms of the GST, do you think the Liberals would of been able to balance the budget if wasent for the GST and other policies and agreements the Tories did implement.
JonB2004 said:
It was Trudeau that got the ball rolling towards the debt with his economics. When Mulroney came in the money was all tied up and his attempt to spend his way out only made the problem worse.
But in terms of the GST, do you think the Liberals would of been able to balance the budget if wasent for the GST and other policies and agreements the Tories did implement.
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I didn't like the Mulroney government, that is why I joined Reform back at the very start.
However, Jean Chretien's most amazing acheivement in office is that he made Brian Mulroney look good by comparison.
You know, I always try to give a new Prime Minister a fair chance to prove themselves, whether or not I voted for them. All I have ever expected is a reasonable level of decency and competence.
Not a single one, and I started with Trudeau, has lived up to any minimum standard. NOT ONE.
Harper, despite my Viva Harper above, is still in his grace period. I voted Conservative, but the jury is still out.
So far, in my book, he hasn't done too bad. I'd give him a "C". But its early in the term.
Hank C said:
I didn't like the Mulroney government, that is why I joined Reform back at the very start.
However, Jean Chretien's most amazing acheivement in office is that he made Brian Mulroney look good by comparison.
You know, I always try to give a new Prime Minister a fair chance to prove themselves, whether or not I voted for them. All I have ever expected is a reasonable level of decency and competence.
Not a single one, and I started with Trudeau, has lived up to any minimum standard. NOT ONE.
Harper, despite my Viva Harper above, is still in his grace period. I voted Conservative, but the jury is still out.
So far, in my book, he hasn't done too bad. I'd give him a "C". But its early in the term.
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Jeez, that was 13 years ago, that party does not even exist. I mean I can't vote Liberal because of Chretien and Martin, but at least they were recent politicians. Oh yeah, can't because of Trudeau too, so I guess we have a little bit in common.
JonB2004 said:
Jeez, that was 13 years ago, that party does not even exist. I mean I can't vote Liberal because of Chretien and Martin, but at least they were recent politicians. Oh yeah, can't because of Trudeau too, so I guess we have a little bit in common.
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Okay, lets revise that a little. Chretien could not be understood in either official language. :roll:
JonB2004 said:
Okay, lets revise that a little. Chretien could not be understood in either official language. :roll:
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ahh, ill give the Conservatives a B. I like the way the are going with the foreign policy
Colpy said:
ahh, ill give the Conservatives a B. I like the way the are going with the foreign policy
If we are giving early grades, I will say that Harper and the government gets a "B" as well. with the potential to do a lot better. He also has the potential to fall to a "C" or "D" if he falls victim to the negativity the Left and the Left media keeps pumping out. As long as Harper remains his own person, the potential for improved grades are well within his grasp.
Damn, should have been a teacher, looks a lot like my grade school report cards!!
Damn, should have been a teacher, looks a lot like my grade school report cards!!
Thats the thing, the media is who decides the election outcomes. The question is can we trust the media to fairly report the recent media ban :lol: