Your Child's Religion Is My Business Too
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They can do that in their church. Now, if the belief had any historical consequences (if they fought a war over it, for instance), that may be worth discussing. But the belief by itself has no value in comparative religion.
I think somebody once said, Christianity would be a good idea, except for the Christians.
well...IF you had, and I question the honesty of that statement, you would see that, once again, that it would just A-OK for this course to question the validity of the basic tenets of the Christian faith. Based on that fact, my analogy is dead on.
Because there's no evidence to support that claim, though in fact my children were told exactly that, at school, by a teacher, though not in class. But you miss the point entirely, as I'd have predicted. You cannot shelter your children indefinitely from encountering claims and arguments contrary to what you want them to believe is true. Better to arm them to cope with that than try to prevent them from hearing about contrary views.
and you and bear are missing the point from my end. Both you and sjp have stated that it would be perfectly acceptable for this course to question the basic tenets of my faith.
f*ck it...I've erased paragraphs trying to reply............ You f*ckin asswipes complain about the "religious" pushing their views on you and yours..... what I see is the exact f*cking opposite. This **** course being a prime example..... and the way religious posters on this board are treated when only posting in the religious sub forums.
I'm not missing your point. You don't seem to understand that the course isn't about proving or disproving religions, but to make children aware that there are many. Thus giving them the tools to cope in an increasingly multicultural society.
Yes, because it usually comes with condemnation and the threat of hell.
Then you're seeing what you want to see.
Gh, I've tried on many occasions to communicate with you on the topic of religion or serious issues within religions, specifically yours. You misread me, accused and otherwise made it an unpleasant and unrewarding endeavor. I do not condemn Christianity for all the worlds woes. I have even argued that it was a beneficial part of Canada's birth and development.
This course is no more about teaching kids that Christianity is wrong then it is about teaching them to fly a kite.
Language like that pretty much destroys your credibility with me. You don't want to be challenged, don't post.
read my message 2319 and this:
This IS the attitude that will end up coming out in this course.
and the residential schools were soley for the education and betterment of native children.:roll:
awwww gee.... and I so wanted to be credible with you.:roll: F*ckin dickwad.
This IS the attitude that will end up coming out in this course.
and the residential schools were soley for the education and betterment of native children.:roll:
awwww gee.... and I so wanted to be credible with you.:roll: F*ckin dickwad.
So now you can see into the future like Machjo? Can you give me tonights Lotto Max numbers then please?
Of course not. That's what happens when the Gov't of the day has an agenda and climbs into bed with religion, to reach a predetermined goal. At that time, the agenda was "removing the Native problem", it was a stated policy.
There is no stated policy of removing Christianity from the country. There is however a stated policy that protects it.
All this course seeks to do, is instill in children the ability to accept that there are more then just one religion. Recognizing how those religions have contributed to the development of society and primary characters within the religious group.
To me this screams "AWESOME". The goal is to give children the tools to live, work and develop within an increasingly multicultural society. Not teach them Christianity is wrong. That's what you seem to want to it to be about. For what reasons< don't know. But I think Dex is pretty close with his impression that you don't believe that your religion should be questioned, by anyone.
Pushing your religion on someone else is different than questioning someone's reasoning behind a religion.
The way I see it, is that school courses should teach kids what aspects of life there are and how to critically and analytically think about these aspects, not to blindly accept whatever dogma is fed to them about these aspects. If that threatens some philosophies that can't stand up to the inspection, then tough cheese.
The way I see it, is that school courses should teach kids what aspects of life there are and how to critically and analytically think about these aspects, not to blindly accept whatever dogma is fed to them about these aspects. If that threatens some philosophies that can't stand up to the inspection, then tough cheese.
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good thing my kids are finished with the public system.....cause I'd blow anybodys head off that f*cked with my kids religious upbringing.
Ever try Valium? It could do you some good. It might even keep you alive just that much longer by keeping your arteries from bursting in a sudden onrush of anger.
I don't give a rats ass anymore....I'm f*cking sick and tired of all these "non believers" sticking their f*cking nose into things that don't concern them. Things that are none of their f*cking business. Things that undermine my (a parents) f*cking authority.
Good point. Have the children read relevant passages for themselves, those passages that have had an impact of the world of today, but don't impose a particular interpretation on the students. Some might take it literally, others more metaphorically or symbolically, etc.
Many of the literal interpretations won't stand up to scientific scrutiny anyway.
Why are you stuck in the misconception that the course is about "f!cking with" your child's religious upbringing?
All the course outlines is the fact that there isn't just ONE religion, and goes on to show how the various religions have played a part in the development of society.
Why is that such a threat to you?
God forbid you're kid should ever adopt a different Faith. I knew of one man, born into a missionary Christian family, married to a woman from a missionary Christian family, and then he changed Faiths. Ouch.
If your kids ever adopt a new Faith, I'd strongly advise they seek out police protection pronto.
He's just having another manual seizure over the keyboard. He can't help it.
So where do you draw the line of that authority?
Do you teach your children that there is only one religion?
Do you teach your children what that religion has done for society (Good or bad)?
Do you teach your children that your religion condemns people for things the good book says are sins?
Some of these questions are rhetorical, as I know what you tought your kids. My point is, you are not everyone, and this course is not designed to undermine your authority.
BTW, I'm not a "Non believer". I just believe differently then you.
Somehow I wonder if Gerry really knows his kids' beliefs. After all, if they'd ever convert, would they have the courage to tell him or would they just keep it to themselves till they leave the house and then once they move out, practice their own religion, and just never talk about religion with him at all.
That's what happens when parents abuse their authority by threatening their children and removing even their most basic freedom of belief.
That's what happens when parents abuse their authority by threatening their children and removing even their most basic freedom of belief.