Yet More Laughs from Fattie Ford the Coke Addict

[damngrumpy]

No I don't think too many care but at least without Ford the place could remain obscure
I don't hate Ford I actually feel sorry for the guy he is out of place even with himself
Ford needs to learn self discipline and he needs to be able to get past his own selfish
destructive behavior.
If he presented his ideas and behaved like a rational human being he could perhaps be
a bood Mayor for the city.
Its not about being Liberal or Conservative in his case its about being rational. He is not.
Even conservatives are appalled at his behavior
And the world of finance does give a damn its about investment and the image we have
in the world and people like Ford are a public embarrassment

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

No I don't think too many care but at least without Ford the place could remain obscure
I don't hate Ford I actually feel sorry for the guy he is out of place even with himself
Ford needs to learn self discipline and he needs to be able to get past his own selfish
destructive behavior.
If he presented his ideas and behaved like a rational human being he could perhaps be
a bood Mayor for the city.
Its not about being Liberal or Conservative in his case its about being rational. He is not.
Even conservatives are appalled at his behavior
And the world of finance does give a damn its about investment and the image we have
in the world and people like Ford are a public embarrassment

He's an addict Grump. This is what addicts do. Maybe he will get help. Maybe his heart will explode. I find it rather fresh when people rally around other addicts after they slash and burn their way to rehab, but selectively forget when they dislike the individual. If he is seeking help, everything he did last week is irrelevant to his treatment. It's just more kicking a dog when he's down. I could care less if he is Mayor and let's face it, this is also just tabloid journalism at this point. It smacks of Lindsey Lohan, Amy Whinehouse, Robert Downey Jr or even Mel Gibson.

Addicts do crummy things, they steal, lie cheat, sometimes even worse.

At this point there is nothing to be gained by kicking Ford except for the obsessive "I told you so's." nothing and these media outlets that seek him out are infringing not only Ford's medical treatment, but the privacy of other individuals who are in the same place. It's time for everyone to give it a rest. If he re-enters the Mayoral race, well then.. Then I guess he's fair game, but this nonsense is embarrassing from a journalistic point of view.

I think Ford's days in Politics are done, but some are so terrified that can't seem to focus on the real mayoral race going on between John Tory, Olivia Chow and Karen Stintz.

 

[DaSleeper]

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I think Ford's days in Politics are done, but some are so terrified that can't seem to focus on the real mayoral race going on between John Tory, Olivia Chow and Karen Stintz.

Did you hear the fat lady sing?

 

[JLM]

No I don't think too many care but at least without Ford the place could remain obscure
I don't hate Ford I actually feel sorry for the guy he is out of place even with himself
Ford needs to learn self discipline and he needs to be able to get past his own selfish
destructive behavior.
If he presented his ideas and behaved like a rational human being he could perhaps be
a bood Mayor for the city.
Its not about being Liberal or Conservative in his case its about being rational. He is not.
Even conservatives are appalled at his behavior
And the world of finance does give a damn its about investment and the image we have
in the world and people like Ford are a public embarrassment

You don't want to make the mistake of underestimating the guy!

So what is Rob Ford really up to because I seriously doubt it has anything to do with treating his actual addiction issues.

First off it wasn't a crisis with his alcohol abuse issues that sent him running for "treatment", it was getting caught on video once again in the presence of crack cocaine dealers smoking crack. And considering the almost complete lack of credibility established by the Ford brothers themselves we have no way of knowing how often Rob Ford smokes crack, we just have the ongoing spectacle of a man clearly out of control wandering across Canada being repeatedly caught on video obviously under the influence of something. Maybe it's Ford's crack use that then causes him to binge on alcohol and possibly become violent as some have reported.

What should be obvious is that if someone is serious about treatment for serious substance addiction they focus almost entirely on that, and even that often isn't enough. Even if Ford was genuinely in treatment there's still no guarantee that he'll recover, many addicts don't.

And as the latest "crisis" was kicked off by his crack use I seriously doubt that being treated for alcoholism is going to help Ford much. If he's in denial about his addiction then there is no way to treat it.

I also think that someone who was serious about addiction treatment wouldn't be doing press interviews and talking about how wonderful the experience was, that's something a politician does to create the proper image for the public.

If Rob Ford really is serious about getting off of booze, pot, crack and whatever else he's doing then he needs to do several things.

1. Resign as mayor for his and the benefit of the citizens of Toronto. There's no way he's in any position to run anything if he's half out of his mind part of the time. It also sends a terrible message about appropriate behaviour to youth and makes the entire country look foolish having someone with such a high profile behaving in such an irresponsible manner.

2. Drop out of the Mayoral race, recovering from serious addiction doesn't happen overnight and if Ford is serious about overcoming his addictions then he's in no place to devote the kind of resources that running a metropolis demands. If he wants to show voters that he's a serious candidate for high office then he needs to make the kind of changes that a mature and responsible adult would make, not a tweaker.

3. Actually admit to his real problems, addicts lie and Rob Ford blaming his crack use on alcohol is a lie.

Well, I do think Ford has to admit his problems to himself, which is what he may be doing for all we know. Resigning or giving up the mayority race isn't necessarily going to be helpful, actually it may be what he needs to help keep his mind off things and actually give him a purpose.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

If drunkenness is such a joke to the Ford brothers, why is it suddenly so important for Rob Ford to be in treatment?

Rob Ford and Jimmy Kimmel joke about drunkenness during Ford Nation YouTube show | Toronto Star

Mayor Rob Ford and Jimmy Kimmel have a laugh about drunkenness on thelatest episode of the Ford brothers’ YouTube show.

“You know, the future of Jimmy Kimmel Live relies on Rob Ford getting re-elected,” said Doug Ford. “So my question is: When are you going to get your backside up here to save your job and start door-knocking to make sure this guy (Rob Ford) keeps you going every single night?”

Rob Ford laughed throughout the exchange, in which Kimmel said he wanted to stage a “funraiser” for him, to which Doug replied:

“You know something, I think that was a great idea. I know you did that with one of your shows. You got everyone hammered, and you fed everyone a bunch of drinks that day. What were you thinking that night, Jimmy?”
Kimmel said he didn’t know what he was thinking, but said it made for a “fun audience.”

Doug shot back: “You know, you’re starting to sound like a politician when you said ‘I don’t know what happened that night.”

Kimmel came back with: “No, I’m just saying I was so drunk I don’t know what happened that night.”

The Ford brothers broke into laughter, and Rob Ford said: “I used that excuse one too many times myself.”

The only apparent crisis here is of public image and after recent incidents and comments by Rob Ford, far from being funny, Rob Ford is presenting a very ugly face of Canada to the rest of the world.

 

[JLM]

If drunkenness is such a joke to the Ford brothers, why is it suddenly so important for Rob Ford to be in treatment?

Before you can laugh at others you have to be able to laugh at yourself. Being in treatment may be a prerequisite to Rob having a job come fall. (It's not rocket science stuff)

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

How did a man who thinks that weight loss is connected to drug addiction ever get elected as mayor of Toronto anyway?

Rob Ford: 'I'm not a criminal' - Toronto - CBC News

He characterized his use of crack as "experimenting with drugs," and said it is behind him.

"This is not something that happened last night," he said. "For the last year, every day the media's talked about it. I've admitted to it. And people know that. So what more do you want me to say?"

Ford pointed to his weight loss as a sign he has moved past crack use. "Look at me, I'm a lot thinner than I was before," he said to Galloway. "It's about living a healthier life."

Addiction, lying and Rob Ford.

The FULL Explanation as to WHY Lying Addicts Lie : Compulsive Lying Forum - Psych forums

LYING BECAUSE THEY HAVE CHRONIC LOW SELF ESTEEM

Lying is a comforter.

If a Lying Addict can believe the things they are saying about themselves, then they are comforted. Lying is a security blanket.

For those moments during the lies, the lying addict is not the non entity they feel they are at their core. Telling a lie about themselves makes them appear more interesting. At all costs, the lying addict does not want to appear the dull and boring person they believe themselves to be. So, for instance, a “geek” who has never had a girlfriend will lie about being the opposite. He will say he’s athletic, is a tough guy and has had lots of girlfriends. They don’t feel their core self is good enough. They are deeply unhappy with who they are.

With their lies, lying addicts are trying to make themselves somebody “worth getting to know” because they have no faith that people will like them for who they really are. They don’t believe they are good enough on any level. If their lives are exciting (through the lies), lying addicts believe people would then, and only then, have a reason to want to talk to them.

It doesn’t matter how many words of encouragement or compliments come from others about them, they simply cannot own the words and have to become someone else in the eyes of others. The core need always is to be seen as better than they believe themselves to be and so pretend to be something they are not. They simply don’t feel interesting enough so are driven by the need to get people to like them.

‘I’m 100% done with booze’ and 16 other Rob Ford lies, broken promises and statements at odds with facts | National Post

It's pretty clear that Rob Ford is unable to tell the truth about most things, the big question becomes why do some people support him in this and his addiction. Do they really want to see him come to a very dark end. This about far more than just one persons substance abuse.

 

[JLM]

How did a man who thinks that weight loss is connected to drug addiction ever get elected as mayor of Toronto anyway?

Rob Ford: 'I'm not a criminal' - Toronto - CBC News



Addiction, lying and Rob Ford.

The FULL Explanation as to WHY Lying Addicts Lie : Compulsive Lying Forum - Psych forums



‘I’m 100% done with booze’ and 16 other Rob Ford lies, broken promises and statements at odds with facts | National Post

It's pretty clear that Rob Ford is unable to tell the truth about most things, the big question becomes why do some people support him in this and his addiction. Do they really want to see him come to a very dark end. This about far more than just one persons substance abuse.

Ummmmmmmm, is drug addition not occasionally connected to weight loss?

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Going over what he's said about his addiction issues, it seems pretty clear that Rob Ford is in fact a drug and alcohol addict given recent events.

Here’s everything Mayor Rob Ford has said about crack video allegations | Globalnews.ca

Being filmed smoking crack by your crack dealer is usually a good indication that in fact you are a drug addict.

Also you'd think it would occur to the Ford nation people that it's pretty well impossible to have a serious drug addict in such a high profile position and not have it eventually become obvious.

 

[pgs]

Going over what he's said about his addiction issues, it seems pretty clear that Rob Ford is in fact a drug and alcohol addict given recent events.

Here’s everything Mayor Rob Ford has said about crack video allegations | Globalnews.ca

Being filmed smoking crack by your crack dealer is usually a good indication that in fact you are a drug addict.

Also you'd think it would occur to the Ford nation people that it's pretty well impossible to have a serious drug addict in such a high profile position and not have it eventually become obvious.

Didn't Ford put Toronto on the map ?
They have been in the news all over the world .
You guys in bean town haven't had this exposure since Carter hit his homerun .
You should rejoice in your Mayor and the coverage he has given your fair city .

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

I guess that makes sense if we all want to be known as abusive, drug addled liars.

Past legal troubles, substance abuse allegations in the life of Toronto Mayor Rob Ford | Globalnews.ca

It's pretty clear that the only reason that Ford has gotten away with everything he's done is due to his wealth and connections. He only represents a tiny fraction of Canadians, most of us do the best we can with an equally tiny fraction of the wealth and privilege the Fords obviously take for granted.

And we certainly don't use the national forum to fill the hole in our souls the way that Rob Ford is doing.

Basically the pattern is Ford saying;

"I'm Rob Ford, nobody messes with me!"

then

"I'm sorry I just took a massive dump on all your heads"

back to

"I'm Rob Ford, nobody messes with me!"

If he wasn't so out of it on drugs he might realize why so many Canadians are completely sick of this nonsense.

 

[pgs]

I guess that makes sense if we all want to be known as abusive, drug addled liars.

Past legal troubles, substance abuse allegations in the life of Toronto Mayor Rob Ford | Globalnews.ca

It's pretty clear that the only reason that Ford has gotten away with everything he's done is due to his wealth and connections. He only represents a tiny fraction of Canadians, most of us do the best we can with an equally tiny fraction of the wealth and privilege the Fords obviously take for granted.

And we certainly don't use the national forum to fill the hole in our souls the way that Rob Ford is doing.

Basically the pattern is Ford saying;

"I'm Rob Ford, nobody messes with me!"

then

"I'm sorry I just took a massive dump on all your heads"

back to

"I'm Rob Ford, nobody messes with me!"

If he wasn't so out of it on drugs he might realize why so many Canadians are completely sick of this nonsense.

No don't let it go .
Most of us that live outside of TO are enjoying the show .
Myself I love seeing all the usual suspects taking the moral high ground .
And I really like reading the posts from all the learned doctors lawyers and psychologists on these forums .
So many addiction specialists who was to know .

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

No don't let it go .
Most of us that live outside of TO are enjoying the show .
Myself I love seeing all the usual suspects taking the moral high ground .
And I really like reading the posts from all the learned doctors lawyers and psychologists on these forums .
So many addiction specialists who was to know .

Yah, sadism is such a positive approach to life.

This isn't funny for Ford(who's clearly ill), Torontonians or Canadians, I guess if the only value you get in life is deriving pleasure from others pain then this is a gift from heaven(or more likely hell).

 

[gerryh]

If drunkenness is such a joke to the Ford brothers, why is it suddenly so important for Rob Ford to be in treatment?

Rob Ford and Jimmy Kimmel joke about drunkenness during Ford Nation YouTube show | Toronto Star

Hmmmmmm....why making it a joke? Let's see now..... could it be because Jimmy Kimmel is a comedian and that is how he makes his living?

The only apparent crisis here is of public image and after recent incidents and comments by Rob Ford, far from being funny, Rob Ford is presenting a very ugly face of Canada to the rest of the world.

Really? So you're taking ownership of what he says and does as your own?

Personally, I don't take ownership of anything he does. He doesn't represent me in any way what so ever. He doesn't represent Canadians. He represents himself.