Wisconsin tribe to protest Redskins name before Packers game

hunboldt

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Well, I generally favour the Indians, but the Europeans always win.


Mind you, there was a LONG stretch of years when the Washington'skins were probably an embarrassment to every Indian in America:
and on the sub continent..
 

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Now, if the team was called the Tee Pee Creepers I might have some sympathy.

I find it rather funny when people get all PC about this stuff. Most Canadians refer to our Indians as First Nations. I find that derogatory because the term has no meaning in international law. Basically it says they are nobodies, non-entities. Some of our aboriginal people prefer Indian, some prefer indigenous or aboriginal but I would imagine that most would prefer to be called a redskin than a nobody.
 

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Now, if the team was called the Tee Pee Creepers I might have some sympathy.

I find it rather funny when people get all PC about this stuff. Most Canadians refer to our Indians as First Nations. I find that derogatory because the term has no meaning in international law. Basically it says they are nobodies, non-entities. Some of our aboriginal people prefer Indian, some prefer indigenous or aboriginal but I would imagine that most would prefer to be called a redskin than a nobody.

good post. I played hockey against the Cote/The Key Wagonburners.
Believe it or not, T-bones- they named themselves. go figure
 

PoliticalNick

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If you want derogatory terms how about Chug, Wagon-burner, feather-head or whiskey-warrior.

The team names like Redskins, Braves, Blackhawks etc are meant to portray strength & determination, Opponents to be feared in battle. If you find this derogatory then you probably fall into the categories named in the first sentence of this post or are just whining and trying to keep your identity as being one of the downtrodden so you have an excuse for sitting on welfare and getting drunk every day.
 

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Most Canadians refer to our Indians as First Nations. I find that derogatory because the term has no meaning in international law.

Canadian Indians are perfectly happy with the term "First Nations". Regardless of international law, it gives exactly the impression they want to convey - that they were here first and that they had some sort of governance.

Maybe the term came from what I think might be the "flagship" use of the term which was the "Sioux Nation". That term, as far as I know, was used even way back in the Indian Wars, maybe even coined back then.

There's nothing derogatory about it.
 

PoliticalNick

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Canadian Indians are perfectly happy with the term "First Nations". Regardless of international law, it gives exactly the impression they want to convey - that they were here first and that they had some sort of governance.

Speak for yourself! I'm Canadian and I despise the term. They weren't here first. The first people here were from Asia most likely from what is currently northern China and Mongolia. If anything the Inuit are most closely related to the first inhabitants of North America followed by the Haida or Salish. The plains Indians predate European colonialism by only a century or two.

For me, well I consider myself an earthling and citizen of the world and I'm entitled to about 1 7 billionth of it just like every other human.