Winnipeg police warn of pedophile’s release

taxslave

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The current NCR protocol wouldn't necessarily fit, but it could be similar to that.

In cases where someone commits a crime, but it is determined that the individual did not understand what they were doing or did not know it was wrong because of mental illness, they are ordered into a secure mental health facility. There, they receive treatment and are not discharged until they are found to not pose a significant risk to society.

The current system wouldn't fit because I imagine that most of these sexual offenders do know that what they are doing is wrong. I feel that these sexually motivated crimes are very different from other violent crimes or things like theft or drug dealing though. You are not going to punish someone's sexual desires out of them.

We need some sort of system that can make sure that people work out whatever it is that made them do what they did, and ensures that their release is linked to some type of determination that they are safe to be out in society again.

Ten feet of rope would work. The bonus is that it can be reused.
 

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One of those "downsides of a free society" things. Without a dangerous offender designation, they can't keep anyone locked up longer than the time they were sentenced to.

It might make more sense to treat these guys more like someone who is mentally ill. At least in that case you could keep them separated from society indefinitely until they are deemed safe.

That would arrive with the death certificate.
 

Sal

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Yep. Supervised day passes. The latest info I could find was from May 2013.

Vince Li gets Winnipeg visitation privileges - Manitoba - CBC News
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low risk to reoffend.

yeah, until he goes off of his meds again....

this is beyond my ability to comprehend the injustice as well as the stupidity...

he cut off a person's HEAD

I do not believe our penal system should be about revenge as no purpose is served, but this is wrong in uncountable ways
 

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Does anyone here recollect Lieutenant Governors warrants?
Used for those deemed mentally ill. Up till the 70's or so.
 

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yeah, until he goes off of his meds again....

this is beyond my ability to comprehend the injustice as well as the stupidity...

he cut off a person's HEAD

I do not believe our penal system should be about revenge as no purpose is served, but this is wrong in uncountable ways

I don't think it's about revenge at all. It's about, or it should be about, an identifiable and very serious risk to the public should certain conditions (ie his medication) not be maintained. Therefore it's not about revenge or even really about punishing him (I think he was clearly insane and not aware of what he was doing) but it's about placing restrictions on an individual for the safety of the public.

Which is exactly as it should be with a convicted pedophile as far as I'm concerned.
 

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I don't think it's about revenge at all. It's about, or it should be about, an identifiable and very serious risk to the public should certain conditions (ie his medication) not be maintained. Therefore it's not about revenge or even really about punishing him (I think he was clearly insane and not aware of what he was doing) but it's about placing restrictions on an individual for the safety of the public.

Which is exactly as it should be with a convicted pedophile as far as I'm concerned.
I think you misunderstood my post.
 

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I think you misunderstood my post.

I don't think I misunderstood. You were basically stating that, while revenge should not be the reason we restrict someone's freedom, given the horrendous nature of what he did he should not be allowed so much freedom, so soon. I agree with that. I was extrapolating beyond that.
 

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This guy has sexually assaulted molested five young boys between 5 and 11. I don't give rats hind quarter about his rehabilitation, he is a danger to society and should be locked up for good. He will re-offend, has already done so after being released before.
 

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I don't think I misunderstood. You were basically stating that, while revenge should not be the reason we restrict someone's freedom, given the horrendous nature of what he did he should not be allowed so much freedom, so soon. I agree with that. I was extrapolating beyond that.
then I misunderstood your post...my apology
 

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what you are saying is ludicrous..and....could well be true...8O but I hope it isn't

Google is my friend and the bearer of sad news.

On May 30, 2011, the CBC reported that Vince Li is responding well to his psychiatric treatment and that his doctor has recommended that he will receive more freedoms, phased in over several months.[28]
On May 17, 2012, the National Post reported that Vince Li has been granted temporary passes that will allow him out of the Selkirk Mental Health Centre for visits to the town of Selkirk, supervised by a nurse and peace officer.[29] In an interview Li spoke for the first time saying that he began hearing "the voice of God" in 2004 and that he wanted to save the people from an alien attack.[30]

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yeah, until he goes off of his meds again....

this is beyond my ability to comprehend the injustice as well as the stupidity...

he cut off a person's HEAD

I do not believe our penal system should be about revenge as no purpose is served, but this is wrong in uncountable ways

It's not the penal system. He was never tried because he was found insane and unable to stand trial. Now he is at the mercy of the opinion of the good doctors as he was when he was released before. Of course, we can't force him to take the pills which make him better (it would be against his rights ya know). But he is released based upon his behaviour with the pills.
 

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Police are warning the public about the release of a convicted pedophile considered to be a high risk to re-offend.



Ryan James Gabourie, 32, will be released from Headingley Correctional Institution Thursday after serving sentences for breaching the conditions of his release from a federal prison after serving seven years for offences including molesting five boys between the ages of 5 and 11.


Gabourie has also been convicted of possession of child pornography.


His latest conviction came in November 2012 when he was found using a computer and the Internet, contrary to his recognizance order, one day after his release. Gabourie's previous convictions stem from the sexual molestation of five young boys ages five to 11 after entering their homes through unlocked windows or doors and assaulting them in their beds while their families were sleeping nearby.




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Sex offender deemed high risk to reoffend released from jail - Winnipeg Free Press


There's only one solution for that guy....................throw away the key!
 

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On May 30, 2011, the CBC reported that Vince Li is responding well to his psychiatric treatment and that his doctor has recommended that he will receive more freedoms, phased in over several months.[28]
On May 17, 2012, the National Post reported that Vince Li has been granted temporary passes that will allow him out of the Selkirk Mental Health Centre for visits to the town of Selkirk, supervised by a nurse and peace officer.[29] In an interview Li spoke for the first time saying that he began hearing "the voice of God" in 2004 and that he wanted to save the people from an alien attack.[30]
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