Ours did reasonably well. We had a bunch of money in co op housing, that was basically a guaranteed cash flow. Many tanked. Mostly they invested in products they did not understand.
Will Mark Carney (as an unelected PM) have a seat in Parliament?
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I recall that for a Leader of the Opposition, before he won a seat in a bi-election, has viewed parliament from the visitors gallery before. I think Carney would be up there until he gets a seat. He would have all the privileges you or I would have as a visitor to the chamber.I know this might sound like a really crazy question above, but it’s a real question. It’s not like the Prime Minister gets two chairs in parliament….One because he’s won his riding, & Another one because his party selected him to be the leader and thus the Prime Minister.
The PM gets one chair, & it’s one of the 338 (currently) matching the number of ridings in Canada….its not 338 AND a chair for the PM…but it’s 338 (one for each riding) and the Prime Minister sits in one of those seats.
If they do wheel in a chair from an office, so Mark Carney can sit in the aisle or something, would he, as an unelected person in Parliament, have the same rights as the actual “Members of Parliament” while in parliament???
Representation in the House of Commons is based on geographical divisions called electoral districts, also known as ridings. At the federal level, the number of electoral districts is established through rules (the “representation formula”) set out in the Constitution Act, 1867. There are 338 electoral districts, each with a corresponding seat in the House of Commons.
I have looked for this answer to this scenario that we are going to be facing, and I’m not easily finding an answer. For all I know, Mark Carney, as not actually being a “Member of Parliament,” might have to sit (as the PM) up in the public gallery on his own lawn chair.
Anyone wanna take a stab at answering this one?
Is the "Leader" the leader of a party, or the leader of that party's Parliamentary delegation, or both?
If the former, seems to me it could be a non-officeholder. If the latter, shouldn't one have to be an MP to be the Leader in the first place?
And, of course, the usual "What the fuck is wrong with you people?"
If the former, seems to me it could be a non-officeholder. If the latter, shouldn't one have to be an MP to be the Leader in the first place?
And, of course, the usual "What the fuck is wrong with you people?"
Nobody will accept that. Especially Trump. Liberals banked on Harris and had no plan if Trump won.
From Fort Smith to global finance and back, Carney’s not your usual politician
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Kyle Duggan
Published Mar 09, 2025 • Last updated 5 hours ago • 6 minute read
OTTAWA — Even when Mark Carney was still in high school, his friends bugged him about whether he would become prime minister one day.
His answer was one fit for a future politician: To never confirm nor deny.
Carney, a devout Roman Catholic who hails from Fort Smith, N.W.T. and turns 60 next week, cleared his first major political test on Sunday, winning the Liberal leadership by wowing party faithful.
The globe-trotting, two-time central banker who navigated the Canada and U.K. economies during times of crisis comes otherwise untested at the ballot box and will become Canada’s next prime minister over the coming days.
The only practical experience he has in the political arena — aside from many years of allowing speculation to build up that he might launch a bid to lead the party — he gleaned during the past two months of an unusually short leadership race called to replace outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Carney’s campaign would not make him available for an interview with The Canadian Press at any point during the race, despite multiple requests.
His friends said it’s his other qualities, not his political acumen — his core liberal values, his sterling resume, strategic mind and witty banter — that make him catnip to Liberals.
Carney’s days as bank governor earned him a reputation in Ottawa as a gruff but cerebral policy wonk.
Former Liberal environment minister Catherine McKenna vouches that he’s personable and witty behind the scenes.
“While you often see him and he looks quite serious, he’s quite a funny guy,” she said.
“It’s always hard because you see politicians in a very particular context. Sometimes that’s standing behind a podium and those are artificial situations. He’s a real person, he’s smart and he cares greatly about Canada.”
One such moment, where he broke through the stodgy official Ottawa atmosphere 12 years ago, came as speculation swirled that he might run for Liberal leadership. The then-Bank of Canada governor shrugged off the suggestion he might run to become an MP.
“Why don’t I become a circus clown?” he joked.
McKenna and Carney have kids around the same age and have been friends for more than a decade. At one point, their friend group decided they needed to become more adventurous, so they challenged each other to come up with ideas and went whitewater kayaking on the Ottawa River and spent time learning how to curl.
“So you have the bank governor curling and everyone’s just hanging out … curling or drinking beers and watching, having fun,” she said.
McKenna, who has seen him speak on the world stage about climate change and economic opportunity, has endorsed his candidacy even though Carney has pledged to reverse part of a capstone government policy she championed during her tenure in office: The consumer carbon price.
McKenna said that was “a tough pill” to swallow, but blamed the opposition to the policy on Conservative politicians who whipped up anger over it and endorsed Carney’s environmental plan as one that’s “well thought out.”
Carney has played up his past as a hockey goalie — once playing as a backup for Harvard — and his love of the Edmonton Oilers during the campaign, as he crafted his public image.
He once told CBC host George Stroumboulopoulos that he was just OK at the sport.
“I opened the gate for a lot of good hockey players,” he said in a 2011 interview.
“That speaks to Mark. He’s just a very humble guy,” said John Hecker, a longtime friend of Carney’s who went to Saint Francis Xavier high school with him in Edmonton, where they played soccer and basketball.
“Physical activity has been a big part of his life and I remember it’s gotten him — not in trouble, but his security detail in London wasn’t happy with him when he wanted to jog into work each morning rather than get picked up and dropped off.”
Carney was raised Catholic in Edmonton, where his father Bob Carney, a school teacher, ran unsuccessfully as a Liberal candidate in Edmonton South in 1980 against the Progressive Conservative incumbent Doug Roche.
Roche, now 96, appeared at Mark Carney’s campaign launch on Jan. 16 to get a sense of what he’s like working a crowd.
“He complimented me when I said that the best man didn’t win — meaning his father — and he said, ‘Oh yeah, the best man did win’, meaning me. It was a pleasant little thing, you know,” Roche said.
The former MP and senator has attended church with Carney in the past and thinks he has what it takes for the federal political arena after watching the recent leadership debates — even though he described him as an “anti-politician” and a stark contrast to Trudeau’s persona.
“He’s not a showman. He has a certain technocratic manner to him. It may be that at this particular moment our country’s going through, partly in reaction to Trump and Trumpism, that this may be what people are looking for. He doesn’t come off as aggrandizing,” he said.
“He thinks in terms of social justice and speaks in terms of the boardroom.”
His decade-plus career in the financial sector took him all over the world, from New York to Tokyo, reportedly earning him millions at the investment bank Goldman Sachs at one point, although he has not disclosed his personal finances as his predecessor did during his party leadership run.
Carney spent a large chunk of his career as a public servant — eventually becoming the U.K.’s first non-British central bank governor.
It’s controversial for central bank governors to take roles in partisan politics, since the independent institutions must be seen to be above the political fray in their decision-making or risk its credibility being undermined.
Now, his previously rosy record captaining Canada’s central bank through the economic crisis of 2008 is coming under increasing scrutiny, especially after former prime minister Stephen Harper cast doubt on it in a recent letter that appeared in Conservative fundraising emails.
Carney portrayed himself during the leadership race as a political outsider, although he does have many ties to ranking figures from Trudeau’s inner circle and prominent politicians across the country.
He co-captained the Oxford Blues hockey team with former justice minister David Lametti and is the godfather to the son of his main opponent in the leadership race, Chrystia Freeland.
He’s married to Diana Fox Carney, a climate and finance policy consultant at the Eurasia Group, where she works closely with Gerald Butts, a close friend and former top aide to Trudeau who donated to Carney’s campaign.
Carney’s political inexperience was put under the spotlight during the last stretch of his leadership run, when he denied that his role at his old firm Brookfield Asset Management overlapped with a final decision on moving its headquarters to New York.
The Opposition Conservatives quickly pounced on that, revealing a letter he signed in December approving the move.
Carney now helms the Liberal party but does not currently hold a seat in Parliament.
His political mettle will be tested soon enough, with political Ottawa chattering about the next federal election likely to be just around the corner, and a call expected in the coming weeks after he’s sworn in as prime minister.
torontosun.com
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Kyle Duggan
Published Mar 09, 2025 • Last updated 5 hours ago • 6 minute read
OTTAWA — Even when Mark Carney was still in high school, his friends bugged him about whether he would become prime minister one day.
His answer was one fit for a future politician: To never confirm nor deny.
Carney, a devout Roman Catholic who hails from Fort Smith, N.W.T. and turns 60 next week, cleared his first major political test on Sunday, winning the Liberal leadership by wowing party faithful.
The globe-trotting, two-time central banker who navigated the Canada and U.K. economies during times of crisis comes otherwise untested at the ballot box and will become Canada’s next prime minister over the coming days.
The only practical experience he has in the political arena — aside from many years of allowing speculation to build up that he might launch a bid to lead the party — he gleaned during the past two months of an unusually short leadership race called to replace outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Carney’s campaign would not make him available for an interview with The Canadian Press at any point during the race, despite multiple requests.
His friends said it’s his other qualities, not his political acumen — his core liberal values, his sterling resume, strategic mind and witty banter — that make him catnip to Liberals.
Carney’s days as bank governor earned him a reputation in Ottawa as a gruff but cerebral policy wonk.
Former Liberal environment minister Catherine McKenna vouches that he’s personable and witty behind the scenes.
“While you often see him and he looks quite serious, he’s quite a funny guy,” she said.
“It’s always hard because you see politicians in a very particular context. Sometimes that’s standing behind a podium and those are artificial situations. He’s a real person, he’s smart and he cares greatly about Canada.”
One such moment, where he broke through the stodgy official Ottawa atmosphere 12 years ago, came as speculation swirled that he might run for Liberal leadership. The then-Bank of Canada governor shrugged off the suggestion he might run to become an MP.
“Why don’t I become a circus clown?” he joked.
McKenna and Carney have kids around the same age and have been friends for more than a decade. At one point, their friend group decided they needed to become more adventurous, so they challenged each other to come up with ideas and went whitewater kayaking on the Ottawa River and spent time learning how to curl.
“So you have the bank governor curling and everyone’s just hanging out … curling or drinking beers and watching, having fun,” she said.
McKenna, who has seen him speak on the world stage about climate change and economic opportunity, has endorsed his candidacy even though Carney has pledged to reverse part of a capstone government policy she championed during her tenure in office: The consumer carbon price.
McKenna said that was “a tough pill” to swallow, but blamed the opposition to the policy on Conservative politicians who whipped up anger over it and endorsed Carney’s environmental plan as one that’s “well thought out.”
Carney has played up his past as a hockey goalie — once playing as a backup for Harvard — and his love of the Edmonton Oilers during the campaign, as he crafted his public image.
He once told CBC host George Stroumboulopoulos that he was just OK at the sport.
“I opened the gate for a lot of good hockey players,” he said in a 2011 interview.
“That speaks to Mark. He’s just a very humble guy,” said John Hecker, a longtime friend of Carney’s who went to Saint Francis Xavier high school with him in Edmonton, where they played soccer and basketball.
“Physical activity has been a big part of his life and I remember it’s gotten him — not in trouble, but his security detail in London wasn’t happy with him when he wanted to jog into work each morning rather than get picked up and dropped off.”
Carney was raised Catholic in Edmonton, where his father Bob Carney, a school teacher, ran unsuccessfully as a Liberal candidate in Edmonton South in 1980 against the Progressive Conservative incumbent Doug Roche.
Roche, now 96, appeared at Mark Carney’s campaign launch on Jan. 16 to get a sense of what he’s like working a crowd.
“He complimented me when I said that the best man didn’t win — meaning his father — and he said, ‘Oh yeah, the best man did win’, meaning me. It was a pleasant little thing, you know,” Roche said.
The former MP and senator has attended church with Carney in the past and thinks he has what it takes for the federal political arena after watching the recent leadership debates — even though he described him as an “anti-politician” and a stark contrast to Trudeau’s persona.
“He’s not a showman. He has a certain technocratic manner to him. It may be that at this particular moment our country’s going through, partly in reaction to Trump and Trumpism, that this may be what people are looking for. He doesn’t come off as aggrandizing,” he said.
“He thinks in terms of social justice and speaks in terms of the boardroom.”
His decade-plus career in the financial sector took him all over the world, from New York to Tokyo, reportedly earning him millions at the investment bank Goldman Sachs at one point, although he has not disclosed his personal finances as his predecessor did during his party leadership run.
Carney spent a large chunk of his career as a public servant — eventually becoming the U.K.’s first non-British central bank governor.
It’s controversial for central bank governors to take roles in partisan politics, since the independent institutions must be seen to be above the political fray in their decision-making or risk its credibility being undermined.
Now, his previously rosy record captaining Canada’s central bank through the economic crisis of 2008 is coming under increasing scrutiny, especially after former prime minister Stephen Harper cast doubt on it in a recent letter that appeared in Conservative fundraising emails.
Carney portrayed himself during the leadership race as a political outsider, although he does have many ties to ranking figures from Trudeau’s inner circle and prominent politicians across the country.
He co-captained the Oxford Blues hockey team with former justice minister David Lametti and is the godfather to the son of his main opponent in the leadership race, Chrystia Freeland.
He’s married to Diana Fox Carney, a climate and finance policy consultant at the Eurasia Group, where she works closely with Gerald Butts, a close friend and former top aide to Trudeau who donated to Carney’s campaign.
Carney’s political inexperience was put under the spotlight during the last stretch of his leadership run, when he denied that his role at his old firm Brookfield Asset Management overlapped with a final decision on moving its headquarters to New York.
The Opposition Conservatives quickly pounced on that, revealing a letter he signed in December approving the move.
Carney now helms the Liberal party but does not currently hold a seat in Parliament.
His political mettle will be tested soon enough, with political Ottawa chattering about the next federal election likely to be just around the corner, and a call expected in the coming weeks after he’s sworn in as prime minister.
From Fort Smith to global finance and back, Carney’s not your usual politician
Even when Mark Carney was still in high school, his friends bugged him about whether he would become prime minister one day.
… which is irrelevant because democratic representation through the House of Commons has been suspended (prorogued) by Still PM Trudeau months ago anyway in order to avoid answering questions about the green slush fund scandal (or having to provide documents), & I doubt that Parliament is coming back in the next couple months anyway.
Mark Carney is the new Liberal leader. What happens now?
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Catherine Morrison, Sarah Ritchie and Kyle Duggan
Published Mar 10, 2025 • 2 minute read
Former central banker Mark Carney will become Canada’s next prime minister after the governing Liberal Party elected him its leader Sunday.
Former central banker Mark Carney will become Canada’s next prime minister after the governing Liberal Party elected him its leader Sunday.
OTTAWA — Mark Carney was elected to lead the Liberal party on Sunday and will soon become Canada’s next prime minister.
Carney captured 85.9% of the Liberal vote — far ahead of opponents Chrystia Freeland (who got eight per cent), Karina Gould (3.2 per cent) and Frank Baylis, who came in last with three per cent.
Carney has promised a speedy transition of power and an early election call is widely expected in the coming days or weeks.
The transition
Trudeau needs to formally resign as prime minister. To do so, he will speak or meet with Gov. Gen. Mary Simon; on his advice, Simon will invite Carney to form a government.
On Monday, Carney promised a “seamless” and “quick” transition but did not say anything more specific about the timing.
Last week, Trudeau said he does not plan to stay on in a caretaker role during the next election. He also said he would have a conversation with the new leader to determine exactly when the transition would take place.
Industry Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne told reporters Sunday that the party will seek a mandate from Canadians quickly.
Carney told reporters on Parliament Hill that he had a long private meeting with Trudeau on Monday that touched on the transition, national security and Canada-U.S. relations.
Michael Wernick, former clerk of the Privy Council, said a transition team of about 10 people or less is probably already in place.
“It’s going to move fairly quickly,” Wernick said, adding that the pace likely will be determined by Carney’s readiness. “If this was anything close to normal times, they might take a week or 10 days. I think this isn’t normal times. Because of Trump, they’re probably going to try to do this very briskly.
“It’s really going to depend on how many decisions he’s already taken or thought about before Sunday.”
Choosing a team
Carney will need to name a new cabinet and set a date to swear in his team.
New ministers will need to be vetted and set up with things like security and secure phones, drivers and cars.
Carney has already chosen former cabinet minister Marco Mendicino as his chief of staff.
Wernick said Carney’s main priorities in his early days will be putting his cabinet in place and assigning portfolios. He said each minister will also need staff, including a head of communications.
Preparing for an election
When Trudeau announced his plans to resign in January, he prorogued Parliament until March 24.
An early election call is widely expected within days or weeks of Carney being installed as prime minister.
The Liberals still need to nominate candidates in 343 ridings. At last count, they had about 160 people nominated.
Carney, who has never been elected, has not said where in the country he will run for a seat in the House of Commons.
torontosun.com
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Catherine Morrison, Sarah Ritchie and Kyle Duggan
Published Mar 10, 2025 • 2 minute read
Former central banker Mark Carney will become Canada’s next prime minister after the governing Liberal Party elected him its leader Sunday.
Former central banker Mark Carney will become Canada’s next prime minister after the governing Liberal Party elected him its leader Sunday.
OTTAWA — Mark Carney was elected to lead the Liberal party on Sunday and will soon become Canada’s next prime minister.
Carney captured 85.9% of the Liberal vote — far ahead of opponents Chrystia Freeland (who got eight per cent), Karina Gould (3.2 per cent) and Frank Baylis, who came in last with three per cent.
Carney has promised a speedy transition of power and an early election call is widely expected in the coming days or weeks.
The transition
Trudeau needs to formally resign as prime minister. To do so, he will speak or meet with Gov. Gen. Mary Simon; on his advice, Simon will invite Carney to form a government.
On Monday, Carney promised a “seamless” and “quick” transition but did not say anything more specific about the timing.
Last week, Trudeau said he does not plan to stay on in a caretaker role during the next election. He also said he would have a conversation with the new leader to determine exactly when the transition would take place.
Industry Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne told reporters Sunday that the party will seek a mandate from Canadians quickly.
Carney told reporters on Parliament Hill that he had a long private meeting with Trudeau on Monday that touched on the transition, national security and Canada-U.S. relations.
Michael Wernick, former clerk of the Privy Council, said a transition team of about 10 people or less is probably already in place.
“It’s going to move fairly quickly,” Wernick said, adding that the pace likely will be determined by Carney’s readiness. “If this was anything close to normal times, they might take a week or 10 days. I think this isn’t normal times. Because of Trump, they’re probably going to try to do this very briskly.
“It’s really going to depend on how many decisions he’s already taken or thought about before Sunday.”
Choosing a team
Carney will need to name a new cabinet and set a date to swear in his team.
New ministers will need to be vetted and set up with things like security and secure phones, drivers and cars.
Carney has already chosen former cabinet minister Marco Mendicino as his chief of staff.
Wernick said Carney’s main priorities in his early days will be putting his cabinet in place and assigning portfolios. He said each minister will also need staff, including a head of communications.
Preparing for an election
When Trudeau announced his plans to resign in January, he prorogued Parliament until March 24.
An early election call is widely expected within days or weeks of Carney being installed as prime minister.
The Liberals still need to nominate candidates in 343 ridings. At last count, they had about 160 people nominated.
Carney, who has never been elected, has not said where in the country he will run for a seat in the House of Commons.
Mark Carney is the new Liberal leader. What happens now?
Mark Carney was elected to lead the Liberal party on Sunday and will soon become Canada's next prime minister.
Well…Mark Carney is showing that he is the agent of change by appointing two former Trudeau cabinet ministers as his top advisers. Marco Mendicino is Carney’s chief of staff, David Lametti is part of Carney’s transition team.
Mendicino and Lametti were famous while in cabinet for joking about how many tanks were needed for quelling the Freedom Convoy in 2022.
“You need to get the police to move. And the CAF if necessary. Too many people are being seriously adversely impacted by what is an occupation,” Lametti, then the justice minister, texted Mendicino, then the public safety minister.
That was in early February 2022, just days after the convoy arrived in Ottawa.
“How many tanks are you asking for?” Mendicino asked.
“I reckon one will do!!” was Lametti’s reply.
Now, these two men are top advisers to Prime Minister-designate Mark Carney, ‘cuz “outsider.”
Mendicino was dropped from cabinet in July 2023 after a series of missteps. He lied about police asking for the Emergencies Act to be invoked to end the convoy, he introduced gun legislation that would ban common hunting rifles and shotguns and was denounced by Indigenous leaders, and he seemed incompetent when he couldn’t provide answers on serial killer Paul Bernardo being transferred to a medium security prison.
Lametti was a law professor at McGill University espousing bizarre left-wing theories before seeking office in the 2015 election. In 2019, Lametti was made justice minister after Justin Trudeau moved Jody Wilson-Raybould out of the portfolio because she refused to give SNC-Lavalin a sweetheart deal in their prosecution over fraud and corruption allegations.
People at the centre of some of Trudeau’s worst political moments are now the top advisers to Carney, the agent of change.
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Carney himself has been the chief economic adviser to the Trudeau government since the summer of 2020. That’s almost five years. His campaign team was made of Gerry Butts, he received support from people like Katie Telford, most of the PMO and the majority of Trudeau’s cabinet.
Mendicino and Lametti were famous while in cabinet for joking about how many tanks were needed for quelling the Freedom Convoy in 2022.
“You need to get the police to move. And the CAF if necessary. Too many people are being seriously adversely impacted by what is an occupation,” Lametti, then the justice minister, texted Mendicino, then the public safety minister.
That was in early February 2022, just days after the convoy arrived in Ottawa.
“How many tanks are you asking for?” Mendicino asked.
“I reckon one will do!!” was Lametti’s reply.
Now, these two men are top advisers to Prime Minister-designate Mark Carney, ‘cuz “outsider.”
Mendicino was dropped from cabinet in July 2023 after a series of missteps. He lied about police asking for the Emergencies Act to be invoked to end the convoy, he introduced gun legislation that would ban common hunting rifles and shotguns and was denounced by Indigenous leaders, and he seemed incompetent when he couldn’t provide answers on serial killer Paul Bernardo being transferred to a medium security prison.
Lametti was a law professor at McGill University espousing bizarre left-wing theories before seeking office in the 2015 election. In 2019, Lametti was made justice minister after Justin Trudeau moved Jody Wilson-Raybould out of the portfolio because she refused to give SNC-Lavalin a sweetheart deal in their prosecution over fraud and corruption allegations.
People at the centre of some of Trudeau’s worst political moments are now the top advisers to Carney, the agent of change.
LILLEY: Carney puts together new team of Trudeau has-beens — Toronto Sun
Is joking about using tanks on Canadians a good look for Carney's new team?
The stupidest thing Liberals could do this election is bring up covid. Nobody forgot the draconian overextended covid vax passport bullshit and lies.Well…Mark Carney is showing that he is the agent of change by appointing two former Trudeau cabinet ministers as his top advisers. Marco Mendicino is Carney’s chief of staff, David Lametti is part of Carney’s transition team.
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Mendicino and Lametti were famous while in cabinet for joking about how many tanks were needed for quelling the Freedom Convoy in 2022.
“You need to get the police to move. And the CAF if necessary. Too many people are being seriously adversely impacted by what is an occupation,” Lametti, then the justice minister, texted Mendicino, then the public safety minister.
That was in early February 2022, just days after the convoy arrived in Ottawa.
“How many tanks are you asking for?” Mendicino asked.
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“I reckon one will do!!” was Lametti’s reply.
Now, these two men are top advisers to Prime Minister-designate Mark Carney, ‘cuz “outsider.”
Mendicino was dropped from cabinet in July 2023 after a series of missteps. He lied about police asking for the Emergencies Act to be invoked to end the convoy, he introduced gun legislation that would ban common hunting rifles and shotguns and was denounced by Indigenous leaders, and he seemed incompetent when he couldn’t provide answers on serial killer Paul Bernardo being transferred to a medium security prison.
Lametti was a law professor at McGill University espousing bizarre left-wing theories before seeking office in the 2015 election. In 2019, Lametti was made justice minister after Justin Trudeau moved Jody Wilson-Raybould out of the portfolio because she refused to give SNC-Lavalin a sweetheart deal in their prosecution over fraud and corruption allegations.
People at the centre of some of Trudeau’s worst political moments are now the top advisers to Carney, the agent of change.
Carney himself has been the chief economic adviser to the Trudeau government since the summer of 2020. That’s almost five years. His campaign team was made of Gerry Butts, he received support from people like Katie Telford, most of the PMO and the majority of Trudeau’s cabinet.LILLEY: Carney puts together new team of Trudeau has-beens — Toronto Sun
Is joking about using tanks on Canadians a good look for Carney's new team?