Why you follow?

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Why do you accept, why do you follow? You follow another's authority, another's experience and then doubt it; this search for authority and its sequel, disillusionment, is a painful process for most of yyou. You blame or criticize the once accepted authority, the leader, the teacher, but you do not examine your own craving for an authority who can direct your conduct. Once you understand this craving you shall comprehend the significance of doubt.
Why do we follow????????????
 
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AmberEyes

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Many people follow because they do not have the desire to lead. I'd lead if I could, and in some instances I do, but it often requires a certain amount of power which I do not posess at the moment.
 

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LGilbert
I simply follow or lead ....... Mostly end up wandering around alon

Where ? around your 50 acres---I envy you L Gilbert ,Kootenays is a God's spread.
 

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LGilbert
I simply follow or lead ....... Mostly end up wandering around alon

Where ? around your 50 acres---I envy you L Gilbert ,Kootenays is a God's spread.
:) Actually I was being figurative; I was replying to your comment about authority and whatnot. But yes, I wander about my place alone. Kootenays is big countryside and quite beautiful and I like wandering around it. Preferably in the immediate vicinity of Kiitenay Lake. But there's nice spots throughout BC I've found.
(Um, the Christian god has nothing to do with my 50 acres but I welcome just about anyone) :).
 

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L Gilbert
Actually I was being figurative; I was replying to your comment about authority and whatnot. But yes, I wander about my place alone. Kootenays is big countryside and quite beautiful and I like wandering around it. Preferably in the immediate vicinity of Kiitenay Lake. But there's nice spots throughout BC I've found.
(Um, the Christian god has nothing to do with my 50 acres but I welcome just about anyone)
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I understand what you are saying L G , so was I ,about God ,or what not (figuratively speaking).I love BC's widerness and I miss it very much .That's a one thing that I don't have here in China.
 

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China, I want you to rebel against the authorities in Beijing. Political thugs who basically do what they please. And now, given your country''s economic might, their power is slipping into the international arena. It's time you had your own little revolution there. Yes, and Canucks need one too but you're the more needy. You first.
 

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[SIZE=-1]tamarin:[/SIZE]China, I want you to rebel against the authorities in Beijing. Political thugs who basically do what they please. And now, given your country''s economic might, their power is slipping into the international arena. It's time you had your own little revolution there. Yes, and Canucks need one too but you're the more needy. You first.
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Dear tamarin , to revolt within society in order to make it a better, to bring about certain reforms, is like the revolt of prisoners to improve their life within the prison walls; and such revolt is no revolt at all, it is just a mutiny. Can you see that tamarin? Revolt within society is like the mutiny of prisoners who want better food, better treatment within the prison; but revolt born of understanding is an individual breaking away from society, and that is creative revolution. Now, if you as an individual break away from society, is that action motivated by ambition? If it is, then you have not broken away at all, you are still within the prison, because the very basis of society is ambition, acquisitiveness, greed. But if you understand all that and bring about a revolution in your own heart and mind, then you are no longer ambitious, you are no longer motivated by envy, greed, acquisitiveness, and therefore you will be entirely outside of a society which is based on those things. Then you are a creative individual and in your action there will be the seed of a different culture. So there is a vast difference between the action of creative revolution, and the action of revolt or mutiny within society. As long as you are concerned with mere reform, with decorating the bars and walls of the prison, you are not creative. Reformation always needs further reform, it only brings more misery, more destruction. Whereas, the mind that understands this whole structure of acquisitiveness, of greed, of ambition and breaks away from it--such a mind is in constant revolution. It is an expansive, a creative mind; therefore, like a stone thrown into a pool of still water, its action produces waves, and those waves will form a different civilization altogether.[/SIZE]
 

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[SIZE=-1]I think that the primary cause of disorder in ourselves is the seeking of reality promised by another . It is a most extraordinary thing that although most of us are opposed to political tyranny and dictatorship, we inwardly accept the authority, the tyranny, of another to twist our minds and our way of life.Isn't that so?....your view please.
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tamarin

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China, inaction is no substitute for action. Rhetoric is pretty but so's a rose. Neither outlasts the hour. Real reform involves pain. And unstinting resolve. I'm not happy with Canada and how it's been co-opted by the activist Left since the '70's. And you can't be happy with China. A country with an economy and momentum the envy of the world. Yet still in the thrall of ruthless despots.
 

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Initially our first years when we become mobile are spent in "following" or doing what we observe others doing before.... it's easier to tread a pathway where you know there are no hidden obstacles which a "leader" or "one who has gone before" has already demonstrated.

This is analogous in life - some of us would prefer to have a safer and proven outlet for whatever we
wish to conquer.... and it may be the wisest past to follow because leaders often receive blame and derision for their mistakes while followers need make no mistakes having witnessed the leader....

Remember the childhood phrase when a dare to try something new comes up? "You go first..." lol

Of course some are both to explore, to lead, to direct, to be in charge, to be in control...... and thank heaven they are in the minority!
 

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China, To not follow, not Necessarily lead, is a skill that can be learned. Or taught. In some circumstanses someone who desires to 'not follow' my be required to follow as an act of self preservasion and this is an unfortuneate lot of many under stcrict rule of goverment or other authority. You are on the cusp of giant change in who leads and follows. Those who take action now will be on the leading edge of China"s cultural revoloution.
It scares the world. What will you do with that potential. Hopfully the right people will take action and 'not follow'
 

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ehleh:
It scares the world:_______________________________________-____
Please tell me, why?

You are on the cusp of giant change in who leads and follows. ____________

Nope ,its still the money.
 

eh1eh

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ehleh:
It scares the world:_______________________________________-____
Please tell me, why?

You are on the cusp of giant change in who leads and follows. ____________

Nope ,its still the money.

China is 1/5th of the worlds population and largley underdeveloped. The potential econonic impact in emense. Like you said, it's all in the money but money needs leaders.
 

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China is 1/5th of the worlds population and largley underdeveloped.

Yeap, and none of them sit on their ass and collect social assistance,there "ain't none" ,they all work.Scary, hey ?
Furthermore there is something more that you don,t see very often in Canada.........people smiling and laughing,not complaining.Dont take my word for it,ask anyone who's bin to China lately.

The potential econonic impact in emense. ______________
Canada had its Chance fo over 100 ys ,
 
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[SIZE=-1]I think that the primary cause of disorder in ourselves is the seeking of reality promised by another . It is a most extraordinary thing that although most of us are opposed to political tyranny and dictatorship, we inwardly accept the authority, the tyranny, of another to twist our minds and our way of life.Isn't that so?....your view please.
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I agree, no man is an island though, the authority of knowledge and nature and love always guide the wise.:wave: