Oh I agree. but don't confuse the right to social assistance with the right to work.
Why not allow free movement to Haitian refugees?
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Oh I agree. but don't confuse the right to social assistance with the right to work.
On the first point, are you proposing we throw all CBSA officers in jail?
On the second point, I disagree except for legitimate refugees. While I have no qualms about allowing them to work visa-free, I do have qualms about the government supporting them more than it needs to. If they are found to not be legitimate refugees and cannot support themselves, then yes, buy them a ticket home. They can come back once they get a job offer.
... and repay the cost of the ticket.
Let the private sector hire them or if the public sector does, then make it economically productive work and not busy work. Otherwise, yes, buy them a ticket back home if they are not legitimate convention refugees and cannot support themselves.
Never heard about that right, but what about it?
Regardless, we're not talking about a Right to Work (although that right probably doesn't exist), we're talking about working for compensation and the relative economics that go with, so instead of ducking the questions, why not try something a bit different and address them?
It would seem that the right to work ought to be a right.
So, what would be the objection to an FOM agreement between Canada and the USA? Comparable economies and all?
So, what would be the objection to an FOM agreement between Canada and the USA? Comparable economies and all?
Ought to be a right?... kinda like your right to order a hamburger if it happens to be listed on a restaurant's menu?... Like that?
Why bother having a border, or different laws or currencies or restrictions on who can vote in any elections?
I'm certain that people in Latvia would love the chance to vote for POTUS, it's such a shame, if not outright denial of a human right that they can not.
Ultimately, the answer to that question lies with the Federal gvts of the respective countries and the general population that votes in those elections.
At best, freedom of movement can only be a civic right. People coming and going will make canada the new headquarters for IRA, nazi war criminals, cartel, terrorists,etc.
Imo, there has to be a screening process and we must practise extreme prejudice against the world's worst.
If you feel legitimate people have been unfairly treated,im inclined to believe you but free move is NOT the solution.
Imo, there has to be a screening process and we must practise extreme prejudice against the world's worst.
If you feel legitimate people have been unfairly treated,im inclined to believe you but free move is NOT the solution.
We can have varying degrees of free movement. For example, we could include a requirement to have medical coverage and to present a criminal record check.
Im not immediately against varying degrees of free movement so long as each degree has some serious due diligence built into it.
Unfortunately, there are people out there that interpret 'due diligence' as double speak for racist people. This pisses me off that someone can call me a racist without even knowing who i am. Why i oughta whip them with my pistol until they apologize.
Speaking of varying degrees of free movement, we could even require a language test. If a person has all his documents and wants to come to look for work, why not?
I'll stand by the 14% number for government in the USA until you come up with a better source. And, while not all government employees contribute to the economy certain areas of the public sector do, such as schools, universities, and technical colleges. If such institutions did not exist then the private sector would have to create them to provide the trained personnel that it needs.
Regardless, out of sensitivity to nationalistic elements, we could reserve all political positions for Canadian nationals only.
That did not work very well in Germany. That nation denied citizenship to its migrant workers for decades, refusing to grant the right to vote or hold office even to children of migrant workers who were born in Germany. When it was pointed out that this policy was somewhat racist the Germans finally relented, allowing immigrants to become German citizens after eight years.
If in fact they can find work here it would be very nice and if they can find work here without displacing our own workers, it would be much, much nicer!
If the average job search takes 16 weeks, should we be schmuks and give every imigrant 4 months of welfare, then shrug when most of them go home after having a ski vacation on my dime?
Um, the good universities in North America are not public sector, they are for-profit enterprises, period. Did you know that Canadian students can barely get into medical school in Canada anymore? Do you know why? Because the majority of our universities charge more for tuition for international students than Canadians students. Given that, who would you take as students, the ones who pay more or the ones who pay less?
The irony is, the Canadian students then have to study elsewhere for their medical degree, a degree which will be worthless in Canada because it wasn't earned in Canada.
if this is the majority of our universities, then you should have no problem providing an example.
I'm not proposing we change our present immigration rules. I'm just proposing to allow more freedom of movement.
That we remove legislative obstacles to people finding work or starting a business in Canada would probably make it easier for them to fulfill permanent-residency and immigration requirements.
More freedom of movement would probably help to counter nationalism too.
No. He can come as a tourist with most eye and a return ticket or he can find work online before coming.
Alternatively, he declares himself a refugee and let's a judge decide. But even then, let him find work in the meantime.
If in fact they can find work here it would be very nice and if they can find work here without displacing our own workers, it would be much, much nicer!
Workers are taxpayers.