Why liberals bash Trump but ignore dictators

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We can only conclude that self-styled feminists, and anti-Americans in general, only expect and demand civilised behaviour from white people or mostly white, Western countries...

Why liberals bash Trump but ignore dictators


Patrick West
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Perhaps protesters expect only white rulers to be civilised.

20 July 2018
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Although the first episode of Sacha Baron Cohen’s latest outing, Who Is America?, was enjoyable, especially the absurd liberal Dr Nira Cain-N’Degeocello, the programme is based on that most feeble and lazy of premises: that Americans are crass and stupid. Ha ha! Let’s all laugh at a country that has seven entries in the world’s top ten university rankings.

Anti-Americanism was in full voice at the weekend with the visit to Britain of President Donald Trump, as thousands took to the streets around the country to protest against – so the consensus goes – this unbelievably evil, crass and thick man. The slogans on the placards vomited with rage – ‘World’s #1 Racist’, ‘Trump is a fascist’, ‘Stupid, callous, fragile, racist, narcissistic POTUS’ – while one protester in London, an Anglican vicar, summed up both the mood of the protesters and the anti-Trump narrative. ‘The way that he’s spoken about Islamic people, the way he’s spoken about Mexicans crossing the border, his attitudes towards women and gay people – it’s all so totally offensive. He’s broadcasting poisonous attitudes towards the community, so I think we all have felt we needed to organise to keep idealism alive and to make sure that message of hate isn’t embraced by people’, he said.

You might argue that the protests were directed at the man, not the American people. But it is more than a coincidence that Trump conforms to a negative American stereotype beloved of the infantile left and BBC radio and television comedians: the crass, philistine, insular, vulgar, money-obsessed oaf. The idiotic cacophony we heard at the weekend had all the hallmarks of cheap, uninformed students’-union anti-Americanism, a moronic inferno against a man with similar politics to his predecessor, but with terrible manners.

More to the point, it is always America that Britain and other European countries get outraged by. There were no comparable protests by British people when the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, came to visit in 2015, despite the fact that China executes an estimated 3,000 people a year, more than the rest of the world combined. By comparison, last year America executed 23 people.

Where were the protests when the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, came to visit in Britain this May? According to an Amnesty International report on 2017/2018, in Turkey: ‘Dissent was ruthlessly suppressed, with journalists, political activists and human-rights defenders among those targeted. Instances of torture continued to be reported… Any effective investigation of human-rights violations by state officials was prevented by pervasive impunity. Abuses by armed groups continued.’ In Turkey these days, even political protests are banned.

While we are familiar with the anti-Trump narrative, where are the jokes and the invective directed at the leaders of Saudi Arabia or Venezuela, countries with appalling human-rights records? Where are the displays of solidarity for the oppressed women of Iran, struggling against their regime for the right not to wear a veil in public?

More glaringly, considering that so many anti-Trump protesters take umbrage against him as women and feminists, sporting pink vagina hats (so racist!) on protests, their silence on a matter closer to home, namely the Muslim rape gangs unmasked in Rochdale, Rotherham, Telford, Newcastle and elsewhere, has been deafening. Molesting a woman is an awful thing to do, but the sexual abuse of thousands of teenage girls – 1,400 in Rotherham alone – is an unspeakable crime. Yet no one has spoken out in anger about this in the name of feminism.

From this we can only conclude that self-styled feminists, and anti-Americans in general, only expect and demand civilised behaviour from white people or mostly white, Western countries (again, so racist!). They fear being labelled Islamophobic, ‘right-wing’ or racist if they speak out against the Chinese or Muslim gangs. It wouldn’t look cool. They would lose face among their liberal friends and peers, or even – most catastrophically – lose some Twitter followers. Far safer to castigate and condemn a white, male American.

It is always the same story. It is always the nominally compassionate and altruistic left who are the most egotistic and self-centred, and obsessed with their precious public image.

Corporate virtue-signalling



Insincere corporate virtue-signalling has long been a feature of modern life: BP sponsoring the Paralympics, Lloyds Bank fretting about your mental health, adverts for Maltesers featuring lesbians, vegetarians, the deaf and the disabled. Earlier this month the Bank of Scotland proclaimed: ‘We’re proud to support Fife Pride 2018 this weekend – celebrating inclusion and diversity #Pride #BeProudBeYou.’

I would never have expected this sort of thing from that unpretentious retailer Iceland, founded by Conservative Party donor Malcolm Walker, the most northern man in England. But virtue-signalled they have.

In Iceland stores at the moment you will see posters announcing 10 per cent off all purchases until 29th July for NHS, police, fire-service, ambulance-service, HM Coastguard and RNLI employees. As Walker explains: ‘On the 70th anniversary of the NHS’s founding, we felt it was appropriate to honour the hard work our emergency services undertake all year round. I’m forever grateful for their commitment and dedication to the people of Britain – they are the ones we rely on when the going gets tough.’

Much as I admire and respect our emergency services, it is not as though their employees work for free, solely out of the goodness of their hearts (except RNLI volunteers, who do). Many in the higher echelons of the NHS earn bucket-loads. It would be more just to give a discount to people who work for comparable charities like the British Red Cross or St John Ambulance and who get paid nothing.

The epidemic of blind NHS-worship is spreading. There is no limit to the means people will use in order to look benevolent.

Those IRA splinter groups in full




With the recent attack on the home of the former Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams purporting to be from the ‘New IRA’, spiked reflects on the many incarnations of the militant organisation, past and present.

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Absolute Legend IRA
Proper Naughty IRA
Like, whatever IRA?
Boaty McBoat IRA
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Patrick West is a spiked columnist. His latest book, Get Over Yourself: Nietzsche For Our Times, is published by Societas.

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Well, besides that the author of this crap article is a douchebag...

People on the left DON'T forget the world's dictators.


I think why people are more up in arms over Trump than most others recently is because the US has always claimed to be better than those dictator types. They claimed to be the "Best place in the world". They claimed to welcome the downtrodden, the disadvantaged, etc.

And now there's proof that claim, at least under Trump, is BS.

And it's pizzed off the world.

From this we can only conclude that self-styled feminists, and anti-Americans in general, only expect and demand civilised behaviour from white people or mostly white, Western countries (again, so racist!). They fear being labelled Islamophobic, ‘right-wing’ or racist if they speak out against the Chinese or Muslim gangs. It wouldn’t look cool. They would lose face among their liberal friends and peers, or even – most catastrophically – lose some Twitter followers. Far safer to castigate and condemn a white, male American.

This part in particular made me laugh.

While I don't consider myself a leftie (or self-styled feminist or anti-American), I have no problem calling out BS when I see it in other countries. Saudi Arabia, China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Israel, the US - almost every damn country on this planet has issues.

All gangs need to go, whether they are Mexican, Muslim, Irish, Italian; whatever (though guess what, they won't).

But the reality is, more people 'castigate and condemn' other races than the White American because for some reason, being a White American was the OMGsuperbestestthingEVAH!

Only it's not so much anymore, thanks to Trump. Now people are really starting to see the reality of a lot of America, and it's sad.

This guy's opinion is just that, a huge steaming pile of disgustingly wrong opinion. But whatever makes people like you, Blackie, feel superior is all that matters, right? Not actual facts or nothing.
 

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I think why people are more up in arms over Trump than most others recently is because the US has always claimed to be better than those dictator types.

And, of course, it is. You'd rather be a nufter, for example, in Trump's America than in China or Saudi Arabia, yet there were no protests when the leaders of those countries visited Britain.


While I don't consider myself a leftie (or self-styled feminist or anti-American), I have no problem calling out BS when I see it in other countries. Saudi Arabia, China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Israel, the US - almost every damn country on this planet has issues.

And yet a lot of lefties do have such problems, as evidenced by the lack of protests when the leader of Saudi Arabia visited Britain earlier this year in a State Visit (no MPs, as far as I know, called for the leader of the country which only this year allowed women to drive to be barred from having a State Visit as they did with Mr Trump).

This guy's opinion is just that, a huge steaming pile of disgustingly wrong opinion.

You can say the same about the leaders of China and Saudi Arabia, yet they were given full State Visits and had almost a complete lack of protests: A few Chinese protested Jinping's visit on the streets of London but they were quickly moved away by police, unlike the Trump protestors.
 

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Well, besides that the author of this crap article is a douchebag...

People on the left DON'T forget the world's dictators.

Don't waste your time. Blackshirt comes from the land that invented whataboutery. During the Troubles in Northern Ireland, whenever anybody tried to bring up the violence and brutality of the Loyalist gangs, the police, and the army, the only thing every heard from Blackshirt's ilk was "Whatabout the IRA?"

All they want to do is change the subject to protect their own.
 

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Don't waste your time. Blackshirt comes from the land that invented whataboutery. During the Troubles in Northern Ireland, whenever anybody tried to bring up the violence and brutality of the Loyalist gangs, the police, and the army, the only thing every heard from Blackshirt's ilk was "Whatabout the IRA?"

All they want to do is change the subject to protect their own.

You seem to be in a permanently bad mood.
 

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And, of course, it is. You'd rather be a nufter, for example, in Trump's America than in China or Saudi Arabia, yet there were no protests when the leaders of those countries visited Britain.




And yet a lot of lefties do have such problems, as evidenced by the lack of protests when the leader of Saudi Arabia visited Britain earlier this year in a State Visit (no MPs, as far as I know, called for the leader of the country which only this year allowed women to drive to be barred from having a State Visit as they did with Mr Trump).



You can say the same about the leaders of China and Saudi Arabia, yet they were given full State Visits and had almost a complete lack of protests: A few Chinese protested Jinping's visit on the streets of London but they were quickly moved away by police, unlike the Trump protestors.


Annnndddd... the entire point went right over your head. But then I am so very not surprised.

Don't waste your time. Blackshirt comes from the land that invented whataboutery. During the Troubles in Northern Ireland, whenever anybody tried to bring up the violence and brutality of the Loyalist gangs, the police, and the army, the only thing every heard from Blackshirt's ilk was "Whatabout the IRA?"

All they want to do is change the subject to protect their own.


Yeah, true. I knew something like this would be his reply; a total lack of getting the point and verbal diarrhea to try and prove he has one.
 

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Anti-Americanism was in full voice at the weekend with the visit to Britain of President Donald Trump, as thousands took to the streets around the country to protest against – so the consensus goes – this unbelievably evil, crass and thick man.



Correction: Pro Americanism was in full force ...

CONservatives support dictatorships in Latin America:


https://www.alternet.org/world/7-fa...cally-supported-america?utm_source=scoopinion



Gerald Ford was fascist dictator Suharto's # 1 fan boy. And that fǜcker killed more people than did Saddam who was also supported by RepubliCONs.
 

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Don't waste your time. Blackshirt comes from the land that invented whataboutery.
Something you, yourself, have been guilty of. Glass houses and shit. Christ, you accused me of whataboutery when I created a thread about Trudeau on a CANADIAN FORUM!

As for the topic at hand, quite frankly it's because they have been thoroughly programmed. You can see it on this forum in microcosm. The Canadian ALT-leftards on here were going ape-shit about Trump separating illegal immigrant families. Yet they either ignored or denied the fact that Canada does it too. Seems odd that a bunch of Canadians would be more concerned about a foreign leader doing the exact same thing we're doing.

Roy Moore had pages and pages when he was simply accused of sexual impropriety from years ago. The ALT-left were like dogs with a bone. Trudeau is actually guilty of sexual impropriety and yet the ALT-left up here is giving him a free pass. Even though "we must believe the women" when they come forward with these claims.

The ALT-left up here wrings their hands over Trump being some kid of dictator while they ignore Trudeau's constant attempts to consolidate power, defy the law, subvert the democratic process, along with his public fawning over dictators and dictatorships.

The ALT-left up here is freaking out about the Russians and the US election but don't seem to give a shit about the major US interference in our last federal election. Obama sending campaign assets to both major left-wing parties while Garbage Soros and his Red Tide Foundation were spending blood money not campaigning for anyone, but against the Conservatives. Obama and Soros made sure Canada didn't elect a Conservative govt. But that's not meddling to the ALT-leftards because their Svengali was elected.

Then we have this "trade war". Not just because of Trump but because Trudeau and Freeland entered the NAFTA re-negotiations in bad faith with their insistence upon shoving their non-negotiable virtue signaling crap into the agreement and a complete refusal to even discuss scrapping the supply management system. Yet once again the ALT-left, media included, give them a free pass, blame Trump and call for a "Buy Canadian" campaign.

And now, in what is the biggest joke of all, Prince Bouncy Castle is literally campaigning against Trump. I guess he figures it'll gain him some popularity which will translate into votes. He better hope real hard. Actual, real liberals are voting Conservative (some of them anyway) because the Conservatives are closer to their beliefs than either of the ALT-left parties. And yes, the Liberals have become an ALT-left party. Hell, in some cases they're even farther left than the NDP.

And now the ALT-left up here is freaking out about Ford (including ALT-leftards who don't live in Ontario, like Hoid) scrapping the Liberal's sex-ed curriculum. A curriculum that was not only drafted by a pedophile, but one that was approved of by fewer than 1400 parents in a province of millions. This is what the ALT-left called "overwhelming" support.

As far as those whack-jobs go, any leader that isn't a fellow ALT-leftard is automatically a racist, fascist nazi. And that craziness comes in degrees depending on how far out in left field they are. Like the leader of BLM Toronto calling Trudeau a White supremacist. Now, there's lots of unflattering names to call Trudeau that are quite accurate descriptions of him, White supremacist is certainly not one of them.
 

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If we're talking about our leaders then both the Tards and the Cons are guilty of this.

Most regular people haven't travelled the world or have a care to watch the news so they hate whomever the people around them hate. People who vote for the Tards and Cons are both guilty of this.
 

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Something you, yourself, have been guilty of. Glass houses and shit. Christ, you accused me of whataboutery when I created a thread about Trudeau on a CANADIAN FORUM!

But. . . but. . . whatabout the IRA?

Your desperation to defend Roy Moore is pretty funny. Thanks for the early-morning laugh.
 
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