Why is always about Isreal?

MikeyDB

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Check your own history dude....

In 1917 Chaim Weizmann, scientist, statesperson, and Zionist, persuaded the British government to issue a statement favoring the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. The statement, which became known as the Balfour Declaration, was, in part, payment to the Jews for their support of the British against the Turks during World War I. After the war, the League of Nations ratified the declaration and in 1922 appointed Britain to rule Palestine.
This course of events caused Jews to be optimistic about the eventual establishment of a homeland. Their optimism inspired the immigration to Palestine of Jews from many countries, particularly from Germany when Nazi persecution of Jews began. The arrival of many Jewish immigrants in the 1930s awakened Arab fears that Palestine would become a national homeland for the Jews. By 1936 guerrilla fighting had broken out between the Jews and the Arabs. Unable to maintain peace, Britain issued a white paper in 1939 that restricted Jewish immigration into Palestine. The Jews, feeling betrayed, bitterly opposed the policy and looked to the United States for support.
While President Franklin D. Roosevelt appeared to be sympathetic to the Jewish cause, his assurances to the Arabs that the United States would not intervene without consulting both parties caused public uncertainty about his position. When Harry S. Truman took office, he made clear that his sympathies were with the Jews and accepted the Balfour Declaration, explaining that it was in keeping with former President Woodrow Wilson's principle of "self-determination." Truman initiated several studies of the Palestine situation that supported his belief that, as a result of the Holocaust, Jews were oppressed and also in need of a homeland. Throughout the Roosevelt and Truman administrations, the Departments of War and State, recognizing the possibility of a Soviet-Arab connection and the potential Arab restriction on oil supplies to this country, advised against U.S. intervention on behalf of the Jews.
Britain and the United States, in a joint effort to examine the dilemma, established the "Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry." In April 1946, the committee submitted ten recommendations covering topics such as "The European Problem," "Refugee Immigration Into Palestine," "Principals of Government," "United Nations Trusteeship," "Equality of Standards," "Land Policy," "Economic Development," "Education," and "The Need for Peace in Palestine." [For the complete text, see The Avalon Project at Yale Law School, http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/anglo/angtoc.htm]
British, Arab, and Jewish reactions to the recommendations were not favorable. Jewish terrorism in Palestine antagonized the British, and by February 1947 Arab-Jewish communications had collapsed. Britain, anxious to rid itself of the problem, set the United Nations in motion, formally requesting on April 2, 1947, that the U.N. General Assembly set up the Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP). This committee recommended that the British mandate over Palestine be ended and that the territory be partitioned into two states. Jewish reaction was mixed--some wanted control of all of Palestine; others realized that partition spelled hope for their dream of a homeland. The Arabs were not at all agreeable to the UNSCOP plan. In October the Arab League Council directed the governments of its member states to move troops to the Palestine border. Meanwhile, President Truman instructed the State Department to support the U.N. plan, and, reluctantly it did so. On November 29, 1947, the partition plan was passed by the U.N. General Assembly.
At midnight on May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed a new State of Israel. On that same date, the United States, in the person of President Truman, recognized the provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the Jewish state (de jure recognition was extended on January 31, 1949). The U.S. delegates to the U.N. and top-ranking State Department officials were angered that Truman released his recognition statement to the press without notifying them first. On May 15, 1948, the first day of Israeli Independence and exactly one year after UNSCOP was established, Arab armies invaded Israel and the first Arab-Israeli war began.
The telegram reproduced here is from decimal file 867n.01/5-1448, Records of the Department of State, Record Group 59, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, DC. The press release is from the records of Charles G. Ross, Alphabetical File, Handwriting of the President at the Harry S. Truman Presidential Library, Independence, MO. The Library is part of the Presidential Libraries system of the National Archives and Records Administration.

This article seems to clear up any doubts about how the state of Israel came into being and you don't see the names of any other important nations here but Britain and the United States.

As an appologist for the Zionist agenda I'm sure you subscribe to the "spread it wide and spread it thin" strategy for "clarifying" the antecedents to the creation of the state of Israel.

Why don't you find out how many times the United States alone has supported the Zionist agenda in the United Nations by vetoing sanctions against Israel...

The choice by Britain and the United States to prosecute their land chopping foreign policies is well known to everyone in Europe and the Middle East. It's less known and acknowledged in North America because as strange as it may sound....Britain and the United States have a long history of breaking up foreign states to satisfy their political and economic agendas.

These nations have made it their policy to fracture foreign nations and retain their sovereign independence without ever considering the mess these "re-structurings" produced...

Why should they?

America and Britain have never had the same insult imposed on them and of course would declare any such idea as cause for war.

Rule by the bully and the thug....Britain and America...the boys from the hood...

There is of course little point in discussing this issue with a great many Canadians who have enthusiastically embraced American support for the state of Israel as a proxy cause celebre in the name of supporting their American betters.
 

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US Interventions – 1798-Present (December 2005)
This timeline lists US military and clandestine interventions abroad from 1798. The list does not pretend to be definitive or absolutely complete. It does, however, demonstrate that the US has engaged in military operations worldwide for political and economic reasons for more than two centuries. (Global Policy Forum)
War and Empire Are and Always Have Been the American Way of Life (February 2006)
This essay written for a Historians Against the War conference outlines US imperial ambitions starting with the arrival of the colonialists on the North American continent in the 1600s. The author then presents numerous examples of US interventions throughout the world demonstrating that the country has been a colonial power ever since its inception in 1776. The piece concludes with an analysis of US actions in the 21st century using the US-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq as a basis for discussion.

Latin America and Caribbean

General Latin America and Caribbean
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General Latin America and Caribbean


Counterinsurgency, Coups, and Coercion (April 2, 2003)
According to this article, US foreign policy in Latin America during the Cold War was driven by imperial concerns and not by a fear of Soviet expansionism. Znet’s Doug Stokes reviews the history of US intervention in the region, and argues that the objectives of the US “continue to be the preservation and defence of a neo-liberal international order and the destruction of social forces considered inimical to this order.“
How the United States Continues to Manipulate Nicaragua’s Economic and Political Future (June 22, 2006)
US interference in Nicaraguan affairs has ranged from meddlesome and internally destabilizing proxy wars, to US-funded media outlets and US-sponsored political candidates. Mainstream US media has replaced communism with Latin American “radical populism” as an impending threat and source of fear, unjustly lending support for such interference. This Council on Hemispheric Affairs article follows US political and economic manipulation as it impedes Nicaragua’s self-determination.
The Latin American Roots of US Imperialism (May 8, 2006)
New York University Professor Greg Gandin argues that past US interventions in Latin America shaped the Bush administration’s model of intervention in the Middle East. US interventions in Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala in the 1970s and 80s taught US officials how to manipulate US media and push through destructive neoliberal policies on countries, Gandin says. (Mother Jones)
Ghosts of the 1915 US Invasion Still Haunt Haiti's People (July 25, 2005)
The Miami Herald looks back at the 1915 US invasion of Haiti, and warns Iraqis that it takes a long time for a nation to recover from occupation. Detailing the little known nineteen years of US occupation in Haiti, followed by many years of economic control, the author shows how the imperial aggression of 90 years ago contributed to the bloodshed and instability of more recent times.
The Truth About Jimmy Carter (July 8, 2004)
As former US president Jimmy Carter embarks on a mission as “neutral observer” of Venezuela’s presidential referendum, Counterpunch presents this surprising portrait of the man. The author charges that contrary to Carter’s reputation as champion of human rights and democracy, he has “deliberately and systematically worked over the past quarter of a century to undermine progressive regimes and candidates” and promote their pro-US opponents. (Counterpunch)
Feels Like the Third Time (June 11, 2004)
The publication of graphic photographs showing US soldiers torturing Iraqis caused a scandal, but the torture itself was nothing new. The US used torture in Vietnam, and the US Army School of the Americas trained genocidal dictators and death squad leaders from Latin America in brutal interrogation techniques. (American Prospect)
Latin America: Washington's Near-Abroad (January 19, 2004)
The article traces the history of US intervention in Latin America and outlines the present and predicted course of US foreign policy in the region. (Power and Interest News Report)

Argentina


Transcript: US OK’d “Dirty War” (December 4, 2003)
A declassified document proves that Washington supported the Argentine military in its 1975-83 campaign against leftists. It also approved of the junta's harsh tactics which led to the deaths or “disappearances” of approximately 30,000 people. (Miami Herald)

Brazil


Brazil: Documents Shed New Light on US Support for 1964 Coup (March 31, 2004)
US President Lyndon Johnson personally authorized overt military assistance for the 1964 overthrow of Brazilian President Joao Goulart. The US feared Goulart’s populist rhetoric and alleged Communist ties, though he repeatedly tried to reassure them that he had no radical designs for his country. General Castello Branco, who replaced Goulart following the coup, was close friends with Washington’s chief military attaché in Brazil at the time. (Inter Press Service)

Chile


US and Others Gave Millions to Pinochet (December 7, 2004)
A US Senate committee investigation uncovered documents showing multimillion-dollar payments to former Chilean Dictator Augusto Pinochet from the US and other countries, under the guise of “commissions from service and travel abroad.” The US payments date from 1976, when the assassination of Chilean Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier in Washington DC caused critics to raise several questions about US relations with the Chilean dictatorship. (New York Times)
The Other 9/11: The United States and Chile, 1973 (November/December 2003)
With the help of a National Security Archives campaign to release secret government documents, Peter Kornbluh wrote a book about the US role in the coup to bring down Chilean President Salvador Allende and install dictator Augusto Pinochet in power. This book review of The Pinochet File: A Declassified Dossier on Atrocity and Accountability builds the case against former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and criticizes “the effort—the resources committed, the risks taken, and the skullduggery employed—to bring a Latin American democracy down, and the meager efforts since to build democracy back up." (Foreign Affairs)
Powell Regrets 1973 US Actions in Chile (April 16, 2003)
As 11 residents of Chile filed a complaint against former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and the US government seeking damages for deaths and other rights abuses, Secretary of State Colin Powell says that the 1973 military coup in Chile "is not a part of American history that we are proud of." (Associated Press)
The Case Against Henry Kissinger - The Making of a War Criminal (February 2001)
Christopher Hitchens argues that this former US Secretary of State should be indicted for war crimes from his complicity and involvement in numerous atrocities commited against humanity. (Harper's)

Cuba


Cuba in the Cross-Hairs (October 24, 2003)
TomDispatch provides an excerpt from Noam Chomsky’s book “Hegemony or Survival, America’s Quest for Global Dominance.” The excerpt deals with US intervention in Cuba, focusing on the latter half of the 20th century. Chomsky discusses the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Cuban missile crisis, the US imposed economic embargo and numerous attacks on Cuban targets including “fishing boats, embassies, and hotels.” Chomsky concludes that US motivation to oust Cuban leader Fidel Castro resulted from his open defiance of “US hegemony” in Latin America.

Dominican Republic


Intervention Spin Cycle (April 26, 2005)
The 1965 US intervention in the Dominican Republic paved the way for future interventions in Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam—many of which the US government based on flimsy excuses and “imperial arrogance,” says this Baltimore Sun article. Sadly, the scenario of a “disingenuous administration and a deferential press corps” remains the case today, and the public continues to buy into the glorified US military and its role in the world.

Grenada


The US Invasion of Grenada: A Twenty Year Retrospective (October 2003)
Foreign Policy in Focus offers a precedent for “’regime change’ through US military intervention.” The official motives for the US invasion of Grenada were “either highly debatable or demonstrably false.”


Guatemala


Guatemala and the Forgotten Anniversary (June 18, 2004)
In June 1954, the US overthrew the democratically elected government of Guatemala, installing a despotic regime and bringing an era “of torture, repression and state terrorism that has taken the lives of close to two hundred thousand Guatemalans.” This crime was committed largely to protect the commercial interests of the United Fruit Company, which had close financial ties with the US Secretary of State and the head of the CIA. (Common Dreams)
Revisiting Cold War Coups and Finding Them Costly (November 30, 2003)
The US overthrew the governments in Iran in 1953 and in Guatemala in 1954 for economic and political reasons. Iran was in a progress toward democracy and more “free” than at any time before or since. The Guatemalan intervention set the precedent for later US intervention in Latin America. (New York Times)

Haiti


Haiti
See GPF's special section on armed rebellion against the elected president of Haiti, Jean-Bertrand Aristide in 2004. The US, France and Canada supported this coup.
Who Removed Aristide? (April 15, 2004)
Harvard physician Paul Farmer describes a century of US military, political and economic intervention in Haiti, culminating in the overthrow of former president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. In addition to military occupation and support for the anti-Aristide opposition, the US imposed “de facto economic sanctions” by withholding aid from the indebted and impoverished country. (London Review of Books)
Mixed US Signals Helped Tilt Haiti toward Chaos (January 29, 2006)
The Bush administration’s policy of “spreading democracy” worldwide contradicts its actions in Haiti. Washington supported a coup to overthrow President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, the first democratically-elected leader on the island after two centuries of military interventions. This New York Times report offers detailed information about the US involvement in the coup including the names of Washington-financed organizations and State Department officials.
The Other Regime Change (July 16, 2004)
The International Republican Institute (IRI) was created by the United States Congress with the stated mission of “promot[ing] the practice of democracy” abroad. It continues to receive millions of dollars annually in government funds through agencies such as the National Endowment for Democracy. Yet the IRI has a history of destabilizing elected governments while supporting violent and anti-democratic opposition figures. It played a key role in the recent overthrow of Jean-Bertrand Aristide in Haiti. (Salon.com)
Year 501: The Tragedy of Haiti (1993)
Noam Chomsky argues that even while former US President Woodrow Wilson was defending the notion of self-determination under his famous Fourteen Points, the US continued intervening in Haiti, and did so for decades during the 20th century. Mainstream media in the US supported these interventions, claiming that they were bringing “energetic Anglo-Saxon influence” to the island. Some US government officials called Haitians “inferior people, unable… to develop any capacity of self government.” Chomsky, in this essay, relates the US military interventions in Haiti to Haiti’s colonial roots and Washington’s perception of the islanders. (AfricaSpeaks.com)

Nicaragua


Blueprint for an American Empire (September 27, 2006)
In Greg Grandin's book “Empire's Workshop: Latin America, the United States, and the Rise of the New Imperialism,” the author discusses the methods used by the Reagan administration during the 1980’s to rally domestic support and counter “anti-imperialist” opposition to its policies in Nicaragua. This AlterNet article comments on the attempts by government officials to convince US citizens to support the rebel Nicaraguan group, the Contras. The Reagan administration used the media to distribute government-authored information to justify the Contras’ activities against the Sandinista government. The article concludes that US interventions in Latin America throughout the 1980’s laid the procedural groundwork for future “imperial” ambitions.
Autumn of the Revolutionary: Another Look at Daniel Ortega and the Sandinista Struggle (May 7/8, 2005)
President Reagan’s illegal war against the people of Nicaragua has had a lasting and devastating impact. A lethal combination of CIA financed insurgency and economic strangulation destroyed the popular revolution of the Sandinista government and with it all advances towards social justice . CounterPunch re-examines the US intervention, and explores its legacy for Nicaragua’s political turmoil today.
East Asia

The Philippines | Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia

General East Asia


Peddling Democracy the US Way (May 4, 2006)
Author Chalmers Johnson analyzes US efforts to impose its political and economic system on other countries. While the US has justified many military interventions in the name of promoting democracy, Johnson argues that none of the over 200 interventions since World War II produced a democratic government. Focusing on East Asia, Johnson further argues that the region reached economic prosperity by completely ignoring US preaching of free trade and liberalization, while pursuing protectionism and government regulation of the economy. (TomDispatch)

The Philippines


Kipling, the ‘White Man’s Burden,’ and US Imperialism (November 2003)
The article revisits the brutal conquest of the Philippines by the US following the Spanish-American War of 1898, and the response of anti-imperialists such as Mark Twain. It concludes by drawing historical and present-day links between capitalist societies and “the three-fold threat of militarism, imperialism, and racism.” (Monthly Review)

Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia


US Vietnam Intelligence 'Flawed' (December 2, 2005)
Declassified US National Security Agency documents reveal that Washington declared war on Vietnam based on “flimsy evidence.” According to these documents there was no attack on US destroyers on August 4, 1964. The Vietnam War that lasted for over a decade, resulted in the deaths of more than 50,000 US soldiers and three million Vietnamese. Some government officials worry that the release of these documents might lead to comparisons with Washington's “handling of Iraq.” (BBC)
Explaining Vietnam 30 Years Later: Asian Dominoes or US Dominance? (May 6, 2005)
This article refutes the idea that the “domino theory” – which held that if South Vietnam was lost to communism and the Soviet Union, other countries in the region would follow – was the real reason behind the US intervention in Vietnam. “Washington knew that the Soviet Union lacked even a minimum nuclear deterrent before the latter half of the 1960s.” Instead, ambitions to extend US influence over Southeast Asia guided Washington’s intervention in the country. (Foreign Policy In Focus)
Feels Like the Third Time (June 11, 2004)
The publication of graphic photographs showing US soldiers torturing Iraqis caused a scandal, but the torture itself was nothing new. The US used torture in Vietnam, and the US Army School of the Americas trained genocidal dictators and death squad leaders from Latin America in brutal interrogation techniques. (American Prospect)
The Case Against Henry Kissinger - The Making of a War Criminal (February 2001)
Christopher Hitchens argues that this former US Secretary of State should be indicted for war crimes from his complicity and involvement in numerous atrocities commited against humanity. (Harper's)

Middle East and Central Asia

General Middle East and Central Asia
Afghanistan | Iran | Iraq | Libya

General Middle East and Central Asia


The Perils of Empire (April 20, 2003)
The British 20th century imperialism and the US neo-conservatives’ expansionist policy of today are strikingly similar. The British too, wanted to diminish French, Russian and German influence in the region. They sought secure access to Middle East oil, and to establish military bases. (Washington Post)
Imperialism 101 (September 17, 2006)
This ZNet article chronicles US imperial intervention in the affairs of other countries. The Bush administration has taken these tendencies to great lengths, engaging in preventative wars when it claims a “perceived threat” to US national security exists. The article concludes that throughout a great portion of history, US governments have implemented regime changes abroad under the guise of spreading democracy. They have done so through diplomacy, bribing and giving money to the opposition, covertly assassinating leaders or engaging in war.
Casual Imperialism (August 16, 2003)
Professor Vijay Prashad compares British colonialism in India to the current US occupation of Iraq. He concludes that the US occupation constitutes a “casual” form of imperialism, a type of indirect colonialism. (People's Weekly World)
Imperial History Repeats Itself (July 3, 2003)
Post-war US troops in Iraq remain vulnerable to attacks by people struggling under foreign rule. Washington’s solution resembles that of London’s at the beginning of the 20th century: call for reinforcements from other countries that did not take part in the attack. (Guardian)

Afghanistan


Afghanistan
See GPF's special section on the US military involvement in Afghanistan.

Iran


Historical Background on Iran
See GPF's special section on the history of economic and military intervention in Iran, beginning with Russian and British inroads, then the US rise to hegemony after the Mossadegh coup, and finally the dramatic effects of the Islamic revolution of 1979.

Iraq


Iraq
See GPF's special section on Iraq. This section covers the US-UK-led war and occupation, the role of oil in the conflict, international law aspects, humanitarian consequences and much more.
War Against Iraq
See GPF's special section on the US-UK-led war in Iraq.
Iraq Conflict: The Historical Background
See GPF's special section on events and interests that shaped the modern history of Iraq. From UK-French oil quarrels at the Versailles Conference (1919) through US firms selling biological and chemical items to Saddam (late 1980s) -- this section provides an essential background to the current conflict.

Libya


Libyan Court Wants Americans Arrested for 1986 Bombing (March 22, 1999)
State prosecutors were told to make haste in arresting nine Americans wanted in connection with the 1986 bombings of Tripoli and the Libyan port of Benghazi. (Associated Press)

Africa



Angola


The Angolan Civil War and US Foreign Policy (April 13, 2002)
Mainstream media have depicted the civil war in Angola as a tribal conflict, and US involvement in the war as the unfortunate result of Cold War tensions. However, documents show that US intervention in support of Jonas Savimbi’s UNITA faction predated any Soviet part in the conflict, provoking a “reluctant” Soviet response. The article also discusses the role of US oil companies and the relationship of a corrupt arms dealer to the Bush family, Richard Cheney and Halliburton. (World Socialist Web Site)
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MikeyDB

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I'm curious why there's been no response to the list provided in my previous post....

Perhaps people don't like the idea that the treachery and lies of the United States and Britain are well known and the mess in the middle east and elsewhere in the world demands that people do one of two things.....

Acknowledge that the most dangerous nation on earth isn't Russia or China, but the United States of America and consider reevaluating your mindless and ignorant support for this cabal of warmongering merchants of greed....

Or stop pretending that you actually have any reason to heap scorn and disdain on those nations whose people continue to pay the price for your greed and ignorance...
 

CDNBear

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Actually I didn't post here for two reasons...

1) I lost my stick.
and while out carving up a new one,
2) Somebody buried the horses carcas.
 

whicker

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Did you hear about the Quebecer, BC'er and the Albertan who come across a Genie that would grant them all 1 wish?

The Quebecer asked "I wish that you would seperate Quebec from Canada and make it a nation of our own!"

"your wish is granted" said the Genie.

The BC'er asked "Well, if you are going to make Quebec it's own country of it's own and seperate it from Canada. Can you please do it properly by surrounding the whole of Quebec with a 100ft tall wall all the way around it, so Canada no longer has to deal with it!

"your wish is granted" said the Genie.

The Albertan asked " that wall that you just built around Quebec, could you now fill it with water".

:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:
 

Logic 7

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Did you hear about the Quebecer, BC'er and the Albertan who come across a Genie that would grant them all 1 wish?

The Quebecer asked "I wish that you would seperate Quebec from Canada and make it a nation of our own!"

"your wish is granted" said the Genie.

The BC'er asked "Well, if you are going to make Quebec it's own country of it's own and seperate it from Canada. Can you please do it properly by surrounding the whole of Quebec with a 100ft tall wall all the way around it, so Canada no longer has to deal with it!

"your wish is granted" said the Genie.

The Albertan asked " that wall that you just built around Quebec, could you now fill it with water".


I would honestly prefer dying under water in those circumstances, than still serving the "queen"(bitch), i guess you know what i mean.
 

darkbeaver

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It never seems to dawn on the Far Left the enormous contradiction they propogate when they tell us, on the one hand, that everything America does in the middle east is motivated solely by oil, yet, on the other hand, condemn America's unwavering support of Israel, a nation whose very existence enrages the countries which have all the oil.

That should give the Far Left a tremendous headache. I mean, if they'd thought about it.


Faulty logic Toro, but you're still very handsome.:wave:
 

Zzarchov

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@mickey DB

Check your history.

Rule by the Bully and Thug occurs when the local bully picks a fight and loses. No one forced the Ottomans to try and hit Britain while it was on the ropes.

You pick a fight and lose, don't come crying when things turn out poorly.
 

Fingertrouble

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I would honestly prefer dying under water in those circumstances, than still serving the "queen"(bitch), i guess you know what i mean.

Could be worse....your descendants could have been moved to Louisiana like some of the accadians....and then you'd be serving George W. Bush!