why i have to pay more for kosher

[darkbeaver]

A good and nice sample of closed minds.

1-Just talking on a matter that really include a jewish matter , even that the jewish is not
concerned ............result: i have to proove that i am not anti-semitic
ok , i will proove it : kosher certification is the best certification ever and the
40.000$ paid by the manufacturer to have it ,will reduce the price of the product
like 3+1=2 or x+y=x-y
Guys , i am waiting for your certification that i am not anti-semitic.

To the man who is telling that organism is a living body ,it can be said for every close
population which works to the same goal.

Even i am a little bit new in canada , but i start to have picture of to which level can someone have a closed mind even i a so called civilized world.
I dont have anything to proove ,if you want me to be anti-semitic , i will be ,no problem at all ,not afraid of your sycho. prejudices.

Don't you dare leave us, those who would paint you as anti-semitic are poverty stricken mentalitys not to be considered completely sentient. You asked a valid question and opened an interesting avenue of inquiry often closed because of real disfunctional discrimination.

 

[darkbeaver]

Yes, it would be hinky math to think that it would come out that way. But.....

Let's say a products ingredients cost 1 cent, manufacturing costs 1 cent, packaging costs 1 cent, and shipping it to the store costs 1 cent. a manufacturer can be looking at a product that costs them merely 4 cents to make, but that we are willing to pay 50 cents in the store for. They profit 45 cents.

Now add kosher certification to that, and it doesn't always mean that the customer will pay more. Sometimes it merely means that the manufacturer has raised their own cost of production (let's say another cent for kosher certification per unit), and has resolved to make a profit of only 44 cents per unit, instead of 45, in order to reach a wider market and thus sell more. You don't necessarily pay anything to a kosher certification board... the manufacturer does.

Legions of capitalists disagree, every penny of that extra expence is past to the connsumer any efficency for any reason ends up in the capitalists pocket, that's the law of capitalism. The cost of production is always and in every case without exception passed on to the consumer. There are no exceptions dispite protestations of capitalists to the contrary.

 

[#juan]

Legions of capitalists disagree, every penny of that extra expence is passed to the connsumer any efficency for any reason ends up in the capitalists pocket, that's the law of capitalism. The cost of production is always and in every case without exception passed on to the consumer. There are no exceptions dispite protestations of capitalists to the contrary.

I would have to agree with Darkbeaver. In the final analysis, all costs are passed on to the consumer so we are paying for Jews to be Jewish.......That, I disagree with very strongly.

 

[darkbeaver]

Zan, you may call me Jimmy Sam. (James Samuel). If you would keep your mind focused upon the cost of food, if we can all just think about food, more, please. I was reading the newspaper, Food section, this morning while watching the food channel and eating. And I thought, how is it that some women just can't keep their minds on food these days? Some aspire to be thin, while eating gluttenous amounts, all day long, but these normal women are becoming more rare, and the men more fat, but I'm not homosexual. Focus with me Zan.

We live in the food age. It's coming back. The food supply was once the human population governor of this planet, but now that governing has become the province of women, women with rights, women with minds of their own, women who cannot, will not, cook. And all I get to do is read and watch.

I once worked as a kosher certification inspector at an aluminum foil factory, but I got fired. I kept my mind on the food, and where did it get me?

Now Zan, don't you be aligning with Karrie's soft on anti-semitism stance. We don't need no stinking anti-semitism. Hosting Townsey is arguably a criminal offense in this country. Whomever pays for that dudes soapbox is scum, right?

Krakra was an immigrant girl, until I found out she was a man. All this shopping talk. The guys and I, we went to the bar, we went to the beer store, we went to the beach, the bush and back to the beer store. Nobody ever said, "Jim? Oh, he went shopping." We did not go shopping. Is this guy for real, or am I being presumptuous about his sexual orientation?

The name 'Krakra', what's with that? In my culture, circa some past century, there were a few names and only a few that were unisex. But one look at the guy's head and you knew he had balls. Then the clothes and makeup and what if maybe sex doesn't matter anymore or I have to check your genitals?

Focus with me here Zan. My goodness how your mind wonders.

You JimShort are anti socialist by your own addmision which is in factand deed is anti-social, which in reality is by far the greater crime of discrimination and hate than anti-semitism and that sir is a demonstratable fact. Nobody can deny the many millions of human beings exterminated by your capitalist disease. So before you entertain thoughts of cleaning this forum of undesireables you should perhaps clean your own house.

 

[darkbeaver]

I would have to agree with Darkbeaver. In the final analysis, all costs are passed on to the consumer so we are paying for Jews to be Jewish.......That, I disagree with very strongly.

You can disagree with me all you want, the laws of capitalism are iron bound by mathmatics however and there's not a thing you can do about it. We are paying for capitalists to be capitalists the Jewish aspect is simple marketing and nothing more.

 

[darkbeaver]

The fact is the cost of religions and thier various practices is and always has been bourne by the consuming public, this was the reason for thier inception in the first place. The posters mistake if any was to introduce the subject to the forum without complete forthought of that universal fact. In fact the cost to the consumer passed on to society by Catholisism or Protestantism can be seamlessly added to the cost of Islam and all the rest of the damn religions, incalculable cost over the centurys, to support and maintain superstitious fantasy, in the face of that I'm not at all concerned with the miniscule cost passed on by Jews in the maintenance of thier eating habits. To answer Krakras question "why do I have to pay more for kosher" it's for this simple reason and none other, you're now living in capitalist heaven and there is no human condition that they will not exploit to the fullest to screw you out of money, they care nothing about religion race or planet of origine, any excuse to get your gold even if they have to invent it.

 

[#juan]

Sorry DB. I was just trying to stir the pot a bit........:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

In the end we are argueing about the quality of dill pickles eh.:lol:

 

[lone wolf]

Would there be the same stink if a "union-made" tag put the cost up a few cents?

Woof!

 

[jimshort19]

Juan, you disagree with consumers paying for Jews to be Jews. I don't bother to look to see if my pork is kosher or not. I just eat it. I don't get worked up about it at all. You side with Krakra against kosher, but I side with the majority who vehementl;y agree that they don't give a damn and that those that do have got a non-economic agenda.

Nuggler, you are an anti-seismite.

Lone Wolf, you union basher. What a case in point! This is perfect, isolating religion from the equation entirely. Yes, there is no doubt that unions add costs, or there would be no unions. But given that they have a legal right to exist and that they obey the law, that any corporation is free to employ them and I drink the odd beer, and they make most of the beer... damn I forgot what I was going to say. Oh yeah, you got something against beer?

 

[Outta here]

Zan, you may call me Jimmy Sam. (James Samuel).

Well alrighty then. Jimmy Sam it is.

If you would keep your mind focused upon the cost of food, if we can all just think about food, more, please. I was reading the newspaper, Food section, this morning while watching the food channel and eating. And I thought, how is it that some women just can't keep their minds on food these days? Some aspire to be thin, while eating gluttenous amounts, all day long, but these normal women are becoming more rare, and the men more fat, but I'm not homosexual.

/sigh. Ohhh Jimmy Sam. You could start a whole new thread with that paragraph. In fact why doncha,, we could have a 105 page debate on how misogyny and homophobia can be insidiously disguised as anti-anti-Semitism.

Focus with me Zan.

Ok, sorry, I’ll get right on it, soon’s I get me head outta the oven … I mean kitchen… errr bedroom… oh dear, where am I again?

We live in the food age. It's coming back.

It was gone? Why wasn’t I told!?

The food supply was once the human population governor of this planet, but now that governing has become the province of women, women with rights, women with minds of their own, women who cannot, will not, cook.

Tskity tsk tsk, Jimmy Sam – do not be fooled. We didn’t have to give up one skill to acquire another… We can cook alright. And not just in the kitchen nudge nudge…in any damn room of the house we choose! (Choose being the operative word here)… the erroneous belief that we cannot cook may have evolved from the vigorous exercise of this pesky thing called choice.

And all I get to do is read and watch.

I hear some men quite like that… you’re not one of ‘em I take it… hope it’s not due to a lack of imagination…

I once worked as a kosher certification inspector at an aluminum foil factory, but I got fired. I kept my mind on the food, and where did it get me?

Uhhh… fired?

Now Zan, don't you be aligning with Karrie's soft on anti-semitism stance. We don't need no stinking anti-semitism. Hosting Townsey is arguably a criminal offense in this country. Whomever pays for that dudes soapbox is scum, right?

That censorship thang – it’s such a tricky devil… damned if ya do, damned if ya don’t. Calling someone ‘soft on anti-semitism’ because they won’t censor what you deem unacceptable… you can do better than that can’t you?

Krakra was an immigrant girl, until I found out she was a man. All this shopping talk. The guys and I, we went to the bar, we went to the beer store, we went to the beach, the bush and back to the beer store. Nobody ever said, "Jim? Oh, he went shopping." We did not go shopping. Is this guy for real, or am I being presumptuous about his sexual orientation?

Please for the love of all things anti-ism-ist… …Tell me you’re just being wily here! Nonetheless, I’m driven to ask: How do you protest anti-semitism while querying another person’s sexual orientation?!… with a ‘straight’ face yet?! That’s some seriously unsightly homophobia – you should get that looked at. Or at least cover it up with some shifty baseball-speak – but fer gawd’s sake NOT shopping talk. Ewww- folks might confuse you for one of THEM.

Focus with me here Zan. My goodness how your mind wonders.

It’s true… I wander through many wonders in a day Jimmy Sam… thanks for playin…

 

[Lester]

time

Karrie , Lester : thanks for your certification , please send it as soon as possible because i dont have toilet paper.

No toilet paper huh? Couldn't find any that was non-kosher?

 

[Lester]

Nuggler, you are an anti-seismite. ADMIT IT you hate earthquakes don't you! say it, say it. May all your weed go to seed.

 

[jimshort19]

Zan, "we could have a 105 page debate on how misogyny and homophobia can be insidiously disguised as *anti*-anti-Semitism."

Now tell me that that woman doesn't want my body! I'll steal the hair from Nugggler's gargoyle if I have to. This babe's goin' down!

to Zen: "And I could add a word on behalf of youth, by a black humoured enginnering student!"

Zen, "Could yopu really?"

Jim, "It's your idea dear, not mine. Way too deep for me. I couldn't possibly do more than 100 pages right f...ing now."

 

[karrie]

I would have to agree with Darkbeaver. In the final analysis, all costs are passed on to the consumer ....

While we may be paying it in some cases, plenty of businesses in this world will narrow their profit margins in order to expand their customer base and thus swell their profit through quantity sold rather than high profit margin per unit. It's basic Wal-Mart business strategy. Where have you guys been for the last decade?

 

[krakra]

hi ,,,
The debate start to be interesting with new guys knowing what they are giving to whom they give it and enough clear with themselves to say it in public.
Jimshort , really you are using a very complicated english , i did not understand what you told about me : you thought that i am a girl , you found that i am a man ,and you did not like it ?
Mr.: I am a man , i was a man and i will be a man . I never told that i am a girl .
you analyse my name (if i understand well) krakra : you have to know that it takes around 1s to choose this nickname.
Karrie , i salute you for the new thread , because it is really a very interesting subject.
For

 

[jimshort19]

Kakra, I could tell you that I was just pulling your leg, but there is about a 50% chance that you might not have this saying.

My mistake was real, but my protest was too much, it was fake.

Nevertheless, I admit, and this is enlightening to me, that I read you different as a man than as a woman. This is in my head, you see, not yours. So now I know why you are more stubborn than a woman!

 

[krakra]

New mathematics are born in this thread:angel10:.

A man have 80.000$. he gives to his friend 40.000$ .
Question: how much remain to him?

if he is in canada it will remain to him 82.000$
if he is in bolivia ,it will remain to him : 85.000$
if he is in angola ,it will remain to him : -80.000$

no, a smarter one ,will say :

it will remain to him : exp(log.sqrt(3.33352))+(sqrt(21.87)-log35.12)

I think that it is very clear now with this new simple mathematics (it has to be clear or i will be an evil antisemit) :newb:

 

[Lester]

check your inbox Jim

 

[karrie]

New mathematics are born in this thread:angel10:.

A man have 80.000$. he gives to his friend 40.000$ .
Question: how much remain to him?

if he is in canada it will remain to him 82.000$
if he is in bolivia ,it will remain to him : 85.000$
if he is in angola ,it will remain to him : -80.000$

no, a smarter one ,will say :

it will remain to him : exp(log.sqrt(3.33352))+(sqrt(21.87)-log35.12)

I think that it is very clear now with this new simple mathematics (it has to be clear or i will be an evil antisemit) :newb:

Just because you don't understand what I said doesn't make it bad economics OR bizarre math krakra.

Companies can run according to different profit principles. They can seek out a high profit per item, or they can seek out high profit through volume. Increasing volume of items sold by adding an extra 2% to your customer base can help to offset and even recover the costs a company accrues in order to obtain that extra 2%.