As gerryh so callously dismissed, millions of non-Jewish women have been traumatized by kosher tin foil right in the grocery isle. As gerryh, himself traumitized by racist poseurs, did not point out, it's not really the tin hat you're wearing, whether it is kosher or not, but the head it's on that counts. And your head is racist my dear. We don't give a damn about one religion here, but we accommodate an unlimited number, and it's all free or cheap, as long as you don't start believing.
why i have to pay more for kosher
- Thread starter krakra
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woww!!!
when i tell you that only one koshering organism gets around 20millions $ per year for koshering the food (including water ,aluminium foil,dish cleaner........????).
you think (if you can do it) that this money will come from the sea or the wind???
"blind mind is a choice"
when i tell you that only one koshering organism gets around 20millions $ per year for koshering the food (including water ,aluminium foil,dish cleaner........????).
you think (if you can do it) that this money will come from the sea or the wind???
"blind mind is a choice"
Kakra
Welcome to the Twilight Zone......
Tin foil hats all around!
You can be dismissed outright Kraka because other peoples hidden prejudices get ruffled when you bring up a subject that they think isn't about what you're talking about...
"Proof"...no proof necessary to the folk who speak to the issue that compels them to address the undercurrent they percive is running through your contribution....
Pull that tinfoil hat down firmly Kraka, the psychic fog of CC is swirling today....
Welcome to the Twilight Zone......
Tin foil hats all around!
You can be dismissed outright Kraka because other peoples hidden prejudices get ruffled when you bring up a subject that they think isn't about what you're talking about...
"Proof"...no proof necessary to the folk who speak to the issue that compels them to address the undercurrent they percive is running through your contribution....
Pull that tinfoil hat down firmly Kraka, the psychic fog of CC is swirling today....
MikeyDB, "Proof"...no proof necessary to the folk who speak to the issue that compels them to address the undercurrent they percive is running through your contribution....
Say I'm a folk compelled by the issue to address the undercurrent. What issue is that please?
Say I'm a folk compelled by the issue to address the undercurrent. What issue is that please?
Krakra:
It's about choice. If people want to buy kosher, they pay more. This would be called a "value added" service.
No different (economically speaking) than any other "value added" service to a product: celebrity endorsement, attractive packaging, advertising. The list goes on.
You do not seem to want to answer the question of what is forcing you to buy kosher; because if you are not being forced, then this is your choice, and you have nothing to complain about.
If some people want to pay more* for someone else to say the product is kosher, who are we to stop them, complain or even question?
If I wanted to pay for my produce to be picked only by left handed midgets, that's my business - if I choose to make it available (at a higher price) to other fruit eaters, what's the problem?
Really dude (or dudette)- this is a non-issue.
Pangloss
*but it's not always more - as Karrie and I have written, sometimes the kosher product is cheaper.
It's about choice. If people want to buy kosher, they pay more. This would be called a "value added" service.
No different (economically speaking) than any other "value added" service to a product: celebrity endorsement, attractive packaging, advertising. The list goes on.
You do not seem to want to answer the question of what is forcing you to buy kosher; because if you are not being forced, then this is your choice, and you have nothing to complain about.
If some people want to pay more* for someone else to say the product is kosher, who are we to stop them, complain or even question?
If I wanted to pay for my produce to be picked only by left handed midgets, that's my business - if I choose to make it available (at a higher price) to other fruit eaters, what's the problem?
Really dude (or dudette)- this is a non-issue.
Pangloss
*but it's not always more - as Karrie and I have written, sometimes the kosher product is cheaper.
You still have yet to adequately explain how $20 million affects the prices of a multi-billion dollar grocery industry.
But you haven't actually provided any proof that you are paying extra for this.
Items sell for the highest price that the manufacturers can get away with, at the volumes they want to sell.
You have not, and I assume can not, provide any proof that the selling price of a kosher item is any higher than a non kosher item. You have made suggestions (with no actual proof) that the cost of manufacturing these items is slightly (and I do mean 'slightly') higher. But you have not provided even the vaguest hint of proof that the selling price is higher.
You're just not very good at this, are you?
This thread is a pretty good example of smart people tearing a lousy (and barely acknowledged) argument to shreds.
Great work, folks!
Pangloss
Great work, folks!
Pangloss
Today ,in the MAXI, and for the first time , i was verifying to buy non koshered food.
the only products i get is bananas and yougurt .
All the products i have checked were koshered.
I left the mall with empty hands.
is it necessary to proof that there is clouds when it rains ?
when factories are spending 30 to 40000$ per year to have kosher certification , and when the koshering organisms (more than 250) are getting huge amounts of money from this certification , then the mind who is asking for proofs that he is paying extra taxes deserve to pay more and more.
the only products i get is bananas and yougurt .
All the products i have checked were koshered.
I left the mall with empty hands.
is it necessary to proof that there is clouds when it rains ?
when factories are spending 30 to 40000$ per year to have kosher certification , and when the koshering organisms (more than 250) are getting huge amounts of money from this certification , then the mind who is asking for proofs that he is paying extra taxes deserve to pay more and more.
If this is NOT just another "jewish conspiracy" thread then PROVE that you are paying MORE for Koshered food over non Koshered. Have you tried OTHER food stores besides the one? What area of Montreal is this MAXI? Is it predominantly Jewish?
Krakra:
I' m sitting here reading this endless whining that you are spouting forth drinking a diet pepsi with not a single kosher mark on it. I'm looking in my pantry and finding nothing with the kosher mark, I hardly think there is this much of a difference betwwen Montreal and Edmonton when it come down to it it all come from the same distribution warehouses, Anybody else from Montreal want to describe what non koshered items are in thier pantry and then give the name of the store you bought it from to Krakra(fer christ sake)
I' m sitting here reading this endless whining that you are spouting forth drinking a diet pepsi with not a single kosher mark on it. I'm looking in my pantry and finding nothing with the kosher mark, I hardly think there is this much of a difference betwwen Montreal and Edmonton when it come down to it it all come from the same distribution warehouses, Anybody else from Montreal want to describe what non koshered items are in thier pantry and then give the name of the store you bought it from to Krakra(fer christ sake)
Krakra, I've read the thread and let me pretend to admit (you seem a most tolerant sort) that I have failed to perceive the difference between kosher food and not kosher food. That I've never even noticed - and I throw myself at the mercy of the Content. I'm just your average guy. But I can always ask. Just what is it about kosher food that burns your butt? Let me have it. Not the Jewish aspect of course. Just the hard cost/risk/inconvenience/taste/looks/weight/sharp edges data.
I cannot believe this thread is still going - mind you, this comment just bumped it.
Sigh. . .
Pangloss
Sigh. . .
Pangloss
MAXI is from the biggest malls in quebec (and i think in canada but with other names).
do you know guys , if you are so happy to pay a (so called ) value added ,i can do nothing for you.
before 6 months , in a quebec TV channel , there was a documentary talking on this subject . they have found that in almost all malls and groceries ,the majority of products are koshered and people doesnot even know that .
in the same documentary ,the journalist spoke with a factory boss , the man have said ,that he has to pay around 40000$ per year to have the kosher certification.
"third world live in our minds"
do you know guys , if you are so happy to pay a (so called ) value added ,i can do nothing for you.
before 6 months , in a quebec TV channel , there was a documentary talking on this subject . they have found that in almost all malls and groceries ,the majority of products are koshered and people doesnot even know that .
in the same documentary ,the journalist spoke with a factory boss , the man have said ,that he has to pay around 40000$ per year to have the kosher certification.
"third world live in our minds"
Krakra:
I'm not from Quebec, but I've worked there. I currently live in Calgary. What you write is certainly not the case out west, and I don't remember it being the case in Montreal. I can't remember if I shopped in a "MAXI" store.
I still call BS on this thread, krakra.
Pangloss
I'm not from Quebec, but I've worked there. I currently live in Calgary. What you write is certainly not the case out west, and I don't remember it being the case in Montreal. I can't remember if I shopped in a "MAXI" store.
I still call BS on this thread, krakra.
Pangloss
Krakra:
I would read very carefully the comments of the other posters on this thread. You, quite apparently, have something to learn.
Pangloss
I would read very carefully the comments of the other posters on this thread. You, quite apparently, have something to learn.
Pangloss
Kosher certification is voluntary. If you were a decision maker in the food business, you could make that decision. If kosher food makes your blood boil, buy non-kosher food. Regrettably, it's the same food at the same price. And there's the rub. What is the benefit of being non-Jewish anymore?
You do kick at the goad Krackie. These are but the pains of your spiritual rebirth. You are vitally interested in, knowlegable of, and already eating kosher food. It's time to take things to the next level. What you need is a good Jewish man, but not just any Jewish man - a kosher food inspector.
You do kick at the goad Krackie. These are but the pains of your spiritual rebirth. You are vitally interested in, knowlegable of, and already eating kosher food. It's time to take things to the next level. What you need is a good Jewish man, but not just any Jewish man - a kosher food inspector.