why i have to pay more for kosher

[darkbeaver]

We have to invent a variant of Godwin's Law to describe how quickly someone will turn any discussion of anything Jewish into a discussion of Israel.

Pangloss

We could discuss that. But we would get to Zionism. Is there a conection? Is a Catholic connected to Vatican city. A Muslim to Mecca. The connecting post was valid. It's also true that any discussion of Isreal leads to discussion of Jews. This was and is by Isreals design, isn't it? The inability for the non Jew to separate religon from State when discussing Isreal has been designed by the state of Isreal, the "Jewish State".

 

[MikeyDB]

OK Pangloss let's pretend that the money taken by the Jews is kept here in the land of the suckers and marks...let's not entertain the notion for a moment that money scammed from the ignorant gentiles actually makes its way to Israel....

You keep on believing that shyte Pangloss and I'm sure the world will be a happier place for you....

See ya at Temple...

 

[gerryh]

IT'S THE JEWS FAULT....IT'S THE JEWS FAULT.....IT'S THE JEWS FAULT.........

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:


what a couple of idiots

 

[MikeyDB]

GerryH

Is the Roman Catholic Church responsible? Are the Mormons and the Baptists responsible?

I've got thirty seconds tell me everything you know.

 

[hermanntrude]

hi,,,
i dont mind if the rabi or rabbin bless,lick , certify ,check ......or whatever he wants to do but it must done for the people that he represents, and i dont have to pay him for this (i dont ask him to do it) there is other authorities who are paid by my taxes who are allowed to do it for me.
i can give you only one figure (20 millions of dollars are done annually by only one organisation of rabbins to kosher the food).
for the man who tells me that i can buy other than kosher if i dont want it , i can assure you that i have tried ,but unfortunately i found that almost everything is koshered ,even the dish cleaner!.
if this is not logical , i must be from another world.

You must be from a different part of the world to me and my friends, since i surveyed a bunch of people i know, and their food is generally NOT kosher, with the ocassional exception in their closets. I'd estimate approximately 5% of my foodstuffs is certified kosher.

As for your question "why should I have to pay for kosher products", there is a very simple answer.

You don't. If you don't want it, don't buy it.

 

[karrie]

hi,,,
i dont mind if the rabi or rabbin bless,lick , certify ,check ......or whatever he wants to do but it must done for the people that he represents, and i dont have to pay him for this (i dont ask him to do it) there is other authorities who are paid by my taxes who are allowed to do it for me.
i can give you only one figure (20 millions of dollars are done annually by only one organisation of rabbins to kosher the food).
for the man who tells me that i can buy other than kosher if i dont want it , i can assure you that i have tried ,but unfortunately i found that almost everything is koshered ,even the dish cleaner!.
if this is not logical , i must be from another world.

Dish cleaner requires no blessing or constant inspection... merely a review of the ingredients to assure that there is no animal fat used in the soap, and they can then bear the certification. The cost per bottle of dishsoap is nothing that would be of concern to a non-jewish consumer. The large costs you speak of come from the inspections and certifications of meats and dairy (not the cereals, canned goods, or frozen foods which are probably the ones concerning you). Meats and dairy are where there is repeated inspection occurring. And I don't care what anyone says. If you live in a largely non-Jewish area, meats and dairy are easy to obtain without the Kosher certification (I have to seek out halal or kosher butchers... I can't get either in my save-on grocery store). If you can't get it non-kosher, then it's because you're living amongst the large majority of the 2% of Canada's jewish population (they're not spread evenly across the country, the populations are way higher in larger cities), and it's a matter of supply and demand. If their demand is high, then kosher food is what you'll find.

 

[krakra]

hi hermanntrude,,,

sur i am rooted in this world .
please, first try to know how to identify a koshered food (check the list attached in this post) then go to any mall or grocery and give me the answer.
see the following youtube clip ,may be it will be clear for you.

 

[gerryh]

GerryH

Is the Roman Catholic Church responsible? Are the Mormons and the Baptists responsible?

I've got thirty seconds tell me everything you know.

actually mikey...I don't need to prove that there isn't a jewish conspiracy:roll:.....it's you who who needs to prove there is....and to tell you the truth....I don't have time to listen to the comedy hour right now.

 

[karrie]

hi hermanntrude,,,

sur i am rooted in this world .
please, first try to know how to identify a koshered food (check the list attached in this post) then go to any mall or grocery and give me the answer.
see the following youtube clip ,may be it will be clear for you.

The instant the video stated that there are no health benefits to kosher inspection, it completely lost me. Kosher law is so strict in its food handling policy that kosher foods are not subject to needing further inspections from other agencies. So, what they call a 'jewish tax' makes up for itself in avoiding what one could just as reasonably call a 'gentile tax' of secular food inspection agencies.

 

[darkbeaver]

I want my food inspected by socialists or communists but not religious nuts. How in the hell does kosher inspection ensure overall safety of food.

 

[Lester]

The extra money paid for Kosher is fair exchange for having food processed in a very strict way in terms of Hygeine - I get a little relief knowing that the plant is'nt overun by vermin - I worked subcontract in a meat proceesing facility once I could'nt beleive the things I saw animal innards all over, flys crawling on food, mice, god knows what else- haven't eaten a hot dog since.

 

[jimshort19]

kakra, "if this is not logical , i must be from another world."

It is not logical to protest a food quality official from another planet when the inspection adds little or no expense to your food or taxes, and tickles the minority that the official serves in Canada.

Then there is bilingualism. That costs money. Then there is HRDC, costing billions, never making a job.

So, how long have you hated religion, or is it the Jew thing?

 

[karrie]

I want my food inspected by socialists or communists but not religious nuts. How in the hell does kosher inspection ensure overall safety of food.

kosher food handlilng laws are more stringent about cleanliness and cross contamination as well as insect contamination (insects are not kosher), than Canadian and American food inspection policies, which allow a certain ratio of insect contamination in our food supply. They may be zealots, but that's not always a bad thing when it comes to cleanliness in food preparation.

 

[Tonington]

The bottom line is that the Kashrut law is a means of ensuring food safety. If you don't want safe food, go to Taco Bell and purchase a $0.99 taco made of Grade F meat. Prison inmates eat safer food than that, but not as cheaply

 

[Lester]

I found a link describing the process of Koshering cloven hoofed animals it's quite a complicated process. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/meatscience/column/kosher.htm

 

[jimshort19]

kakra, "why i have to pay a rabbin to bless my food ????????

You don't. You say that you don't mind if a Jew licks your food. How open-minded of you. Real open. Like, not even there - no, of course, you are lying.

You don't like Jews. Why don't you start an anti-Jew thread? How about opening it by objecting to the silly food traditions many of them Jews observe? Claim it's costing you. Tell us that you don't mind your 80% Jew-licked food.

 

[Lester]

I really don't think they lick the food Kakra - I haven't seen ant lit on the food likkin tecnhique employed by rabbis-anybody gotta link

 

[Pangloss]

Lester:

I think I saw a video of that - but you have to be over eighteen to buy it.

Pangloss

 

[karrie]

the 'licking food' comment wasn't krakra's... it was someone else (I'm not wasting my time reading back through to find who it was again) poking fun. He simply responded to it by stating he didn't care HOW they blessed the food.

 

[Lester]

My mistake- I didn't really look I just saw the debate about it raging and had this picture in my head of a rabbi licking sides of beef.