Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debates

Will Harper win it all?

  • No Martin will dominate.

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  • No Layton will hold his own or better his position.

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  • The debate won't change anything.

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#juan

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Which party leader will benefit the most from the televised debates? Will one or two wish they stayed home? Thoughts?
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Who will gain most fr

If the last debate is any indication, Duceppe will win again.

I think Harper has the most to lose here. His policies are at odds with everybody else's, so he's going to get whipped by all of them.
 

William Ashley

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Re: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

The networks.

Of course throwing in a bunch more parties and extending the debates a couple hours may be interesting... say throw in the communists and rhinos, some new agers, pot party it'd be a blast and get different veiwpoints and may actually attract more attention to the issues.

Duceppe is said to be wonderful with debates but who is he talking to? I would geuss most people in Quebec are atuned to PQ because it is good for Quebec as a region and shows unity.(quebec unity...some unity is better than none..)

NDP has to get some support from the debates, how many people watch the debates, who is more likely is it people that value NDP values?

It is crucial for the liberals and conservatives if the polls are going however honestly the liberals and the conservative programs don't seem much different, but maybe I'm just not aware of the major issues. By all rights if the conservatives had the support of their combined parties befor joining they should be beating the liberals out. I don't see any real issues being raised, it seems obvious how the 'issues' need to resolve, and it is just how they are going to solve them. The conservatives were playing themselves off as non proactive, instead being 'conservative' however they are being conservative rather than progresive that is finding new ways to solve the issues, the last thing we need in this more evolving crisis environment is non action. Liberals are said to have been picking up NDP votes, meanwhile Liberals are shadowing conservative key issues. Martin has come out as not being a smooth talker, I don't think that is generally the case, but what ends up being the real issue is the networks not freely allowing 'major' parties voice. The green party has a good 5% of the vote, that is substancial that 5%.

I think that the issues are pretty clear cut for each party though so the debate is somewhat redundant.

If people can't see what the real issues are then we are largely doomed.

Nothing will happen, it is just CULT reinforcement. I find it sad that the Canadian system is conventionally incorrect. There are no new issues, that have a reasonable dispute.
 

#juan

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Re: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

I think people watch the debates. When candidates are mainly mud slinging on the road, when some candidates are changing their position on important issues, it is useful to get an indelible record of what those positions are. Politicians tend to stick to what they've said in a debate. I will watch them.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Who will gain most fr

I always watch them. It's one of the few times that the leaders discuss actually policy in any depth. I do wish they'd disallow cue cards though.

Does anybody know if there are going to be any town halls? There were a couple last time around. One was at a university. The format and the questions were excellent. Unfortunately Harper refused to show up for that one.
 

no1important

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RE: Who will gain most fr

Why is Duceppe even in this english debate anyways? Makes no sense to me. I think Harper will look like an ass and Jack should do retty good. Martin will not be anything special, just same old Martin.
 

the caracal kid

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RE: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

What will be interesting is how the new fomat comes across. It sounds less like a debate and more like an "all parties" (all accepted by the media parties) public relations presentation.
 

#juan

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Re: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

I don't know why Duceppe is in any of the debates. Personally, I don't know why the Bloc is alowed to run in a federal election. The idea of paying this group of seditious clowns to tear the country apart is just idiotic.
 

Jay

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Re: RE: Who will gain most fr

no1important said:
Why is Duceppe even in this english debate anyways? Makes no sense to me.

So your not interested in what he has to say?
 

the caracal kid

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RE: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

The idea is that even if you disagree with them, they should be entitled to voice their position (and in the case of the debates, there is enough support for the party). Canada can not call itself a free democracy if such freedoms come with strings attached.
 

no1important

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Re: RE: Who will gain most fr

Jay said:
no1important said:
Why is Duceppe even in this english debate anyways? Makes no sense to me.

So your not interested in what he has to say?

Well he has no candidates running outside of Quebec and for him to come to Vancouver seems like a waste to me. Plus the Blocs policies are no concern of mine, I can not vote for them. If he ran a full slate of 308 candidates I would welcome him, but he is not.

I also think the Green Party should of replaced him for this debate here in Vancouver.

The idea is that even if you disagree with them, they should be entitled to voice their position (and in the case of the debates, there is enough support for the party). Canada can not call itself a free democracy if such freedoms come with strings attached.

Then why is the Green Party not allowed to participate? They are running candidates nation wide unlike the bloc. The Greens are 4-6% nationally depending on what poll and 10% in BC and 11% in Vancouver area.
 

the caracal kid

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RE: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

the lack of the greens comes down to the strange way the political system is set up to benefit the established parties.

You are correct in that the greens should have a spot in the debates.
 

Calberty

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RE: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

Think of this election as the last 5 minutes of a hockey game. The Liberals are beating the Conservatives 5 to 4..or...are beating the NDP 8 to 1.

The Liberals don't neat to score a goal to win. No goals scored in the last 5 minutes is a Liberal victory. Martin doesn't have to win the debates but Harper does and Layton has to suddenly look like Jesus and turn his glass of podium water into wine.

A debate that 'changes nothing' is a Liberal victory
 

Colpy

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RE: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

8O 8O Who the hell wrote this poll at the top, anyway?

One is not able to vote that Harper will dominate the debate.

This is too funny. :lol:

Not at all surprizing on this forum, though.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Who will gain most fr

It's a lot better than the Conservative push-poll Mrs. Rev took last night, Colpy.

Besides, between his robotic speaking style and to his agenda hidden, how much can Harper possibly accomplish?
 

#juan

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Re: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

I didn't think there was a chance that Harper would win the debate...:wink:

Just kidding.....I did miss that option....Sorry
 

bhoour

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Re: Who will gain most from upcoming federal election debate

Hmmmmmm, who will gain the most........??
Not any of us! The rich will get richer, and tell more lies.... :blah5: :blah5: :blah5: .
We are only puppets in their game!! It frustrates me that we even play.

:silent:

I won't say anymore, I'll just end up in trouble......... :roll: