Who to vote for in Canadian federal election in 2019?

Cliffy

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When you have two parties exchanging power back and forth for 150 years, let's be honest. They're both dinosaur parties.​
 
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Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
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Conservative Party was founded in 2003.
Just because they changed their name a few times doesn't change their stripes. They are still the right wing in Canada and virtually identical to the Liberals in representing Big Business above the electorate.
 

Walter

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Just because they changed their name a few times doesn't change their stripes. They are still the right wing in Canada and virtually identical to the Liberals in representing Big Business above the electorate.
Wrong. Business owns the Libs.
 

spilledthebeer

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I'm concerned that the biggest single plank in the PC platform is the SNC Lavalin affair. That and thowing a few dollar bills at the voters, but not for a year or so. Same old, same old.




Poor FOOLISH NICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HE AINT SMART ENOUGH ......................................


to BE a Danger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like Danger are too IGNORANT to understand..................................


that the Conservative Plan............................................


is elegantly SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Conservative Plan consists of CLEANING UP LIE-beral MESSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Here are some fun examples of Fake News that LIE-berals don’t want us to look closely at!!!!

LIE-berals insist that Andrew Scheer is some sort of closet white supremacist and they insist that Scheer is hiding views more right wing than those of the infamous Faith Goldy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet Goldy - who was fired from The Rebel Media by boss Ezra Levant - has just tweeted that Justin Trudeau ONCE BOUGHT SOME DRINKS for Goldy in a bar!

Is it not absurd- Our idiot Boy condemning white supremacists -and then BUYING DRINKS for one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals are denouncing a web site run by a former Conservative candidate!!!!!!

And the guy is claiming that the VERY LIE-beral friendly Toronto Star newspaper is getting $115,000.00 PER WEEK from the giant media slush fund worth six hundred million dollars- that LIE-berals are offering ONLY to Cdn news media “that they trust”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And LIE-berals say THIS IS Fake News -Star is not getting $115 grand!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But LIE-berals will not say how much Toronto Red Star is REALLY getting!!!!!!!

Is Toronto star getting MORE than $115 grand per week?????????????????

LIE-beral friendly Cdn news media- meaning the people getting a share of the LIE-beral six hundred million dollar slush fund that LIE-berals are handing out to “news media that they trust” .........................................

meaning people who give LIE-berals good press.....................................

are claiming that Our idiot Boy Justin is no different in ducking televised election debate that Stephen Harper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS LIE-beral FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stephen Harper avoided televised debates because they were political ambushes set up by LIE-beral friendly media - that LIE-berals trusted- to slander and smear Harper about his ALLEGED SECRET AGENDA - that has NEVER APPEARED!!!!!!!!

BUT Our idiot Boy Justin is avoiding televised political debate because there is NO WAY that LIE-beral friendly media -that LIE-berals trust - can protect him from REAL QUESTIONS on his record as PM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-beral trusted media cannot deny questions about the over $100 BILLION dollars of new debt -of which over $12 billion is for recently made campaign promises- that Trudope has already run up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nor can that trusted media protect Trudope from hard questions about how much new debt he will dump on us if he is re-elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nor can trusted news media protect Trudope from hard questions about how high he will drive the carbon tax SCAM after LIE-berals drive us full tilt into the debt wall and we are forced by international bankers to START paying back what we owe!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have said before that the Trudope LIE-beral plan to make us rich with borrowed money is nothing more than a COSTLY replay of the Ontari-owe premier Bob Rae/NDP plan to make Ontari-owe rich with borrowed money!!!!!

Rae and NDP succeeded ONLY in doubling the Ontari-owe debt -and making such a MESS that Ontari-owe civil service union HOGS were FORCED HOME for UNPAID DAYS OFF WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The NOTORIOUS RAE DAYS - those once a week days off killed 20 percent of the average HOG income - and prompted the election of Mike Harris to clean up the mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now we have Our idiot Boy and loser LIE-berals running up over $100 billion dollars in new debt IN FOUR YEARS - while at the same time- trying desperately to KILL OFF the highly profitable Cdn oil patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals tell us “our economy is BOOMING”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So if we are doing so well- then WHY CANT WE PAY OUR BILLS????????????

If we are doing so well then why are so many kids unable to live independently of their parents?????????????????????

ARE we witnessing an epic taxing and looting of the general public so LIE-berals cna BUY VOTE from HOGS and other special interest groups -so LIE-berals can cling to power at ANY PRICE???????????????????

Nor can trusted LIE-beral media protect Trudope from hard questions about his dangerous tampering with the jury selection process that is being exploited by dangerous criminals to argue they need a new and MORE FAIR trial- that will let them off the hook for crimes committed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE have only to listen to the argument put up by the two convicted terrorists who wanted to derail a Via Passenger train full of people - sending it crashing off the 40 metre high Highland Creek Bridge to realize LIE-beral tampering with jury selection is giving thugs a get out of jail free card”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals DO NOT CARE that the reason the two terrorists DID NOT SPEAK or participate in their first trial is because the terrorists DENY the authority of Cdn govt to judge them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The two terrorists DENY they got a fair trial because the jury was NOT COMPOSED of their peers - it had only ordinary Cdns on the jury!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now- SHOULD WE NOT ASK JUST WHO the two terrorists WOULD CONSIDER AS being worthy of being their “PEERS” and of judging them????????????????????

Shall we GUESS that the only people that convicted terrorists consider to “be their peers” ARE OTHER TERRORISTS??????????????

In summer 2017, LIE-berals RELEASED SEVEN accused KILLERS - claiming they could not provide trials in reasonable time frame and thus the rights of the killers would be violated - so the killers were set free and the DEAD VICTIMS were FORGOTTEN- because LIE-berals need THEIR GRAVY for other things than legal wrangling!!!!!!!!!!

In Ontari-owe - Wynne-bag LIE-berals ALSO RELEASED WITHOUT TRIAL- 4 men accused in various frauds who allegedly STOLE $45 million dollars from us!!

But LIE-beral courts were to BUSY to bother trying the fraud artists who had set up various COMPLEX scams so THEY ALSO were set free......................and the people who were CHEATED............WERE FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This patern of LIE-beral indiffernce to white collar crime dates back to prime ministers Pierre Trudeau and Chretien!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

In the late 1980`s - as Canada was enduring a wave of bank and mortgage frauds - the Calgary chief of Police appeared on the news and told us: “ it is now the policy of the Calgary Police NOT TO BOTHER investigating cases of mortgage fraud”!!!

The Chief was ENRAGED that bank officials had been so UNCOOPERATIVE with cops during previous fraud investigations that he decided his cops had better things to do than argue with banks who considered fraud to be the cost of doing biz in Canada -and TOO BAD about the victms who had their identity STOLEN by fraud artists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now Canada has become the money laundering capitol of the world!!!!!!!!!!!

Thieves from all over the world are DELIGHTED that LIE-berals giver them such opportunities to PROFIT from Cdn LIE-beral catch and release legal CRAP!!!!!!!!

In addition LIE-berals quietly and ROUTINELY CONTINUE RELEASING - without trial - because they don’t have the time to bother- various lesser criminals -meaning those charged with things like ASSAULT with a weapon and DRUNK DRIVING and others facing drug charges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals cover court activities with a veil of Privacy issues - claiming it is to protect the innocent - yet it is LIE-beral reputations that are getting best protection from LIE-beral interpretations of “privacy”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yet in spite of all this - LIE-berals get ANGRY when people SNEER at the LIE-beral legal “catch and release’ SCAM that pretends to protect the public - when the REAL GOAL is to protect special interest groups that VOTE LIE-beral!!
LIE-berals want us to believe that the Lavalin Scandal is nothing more than an “ethical lapse in judgement”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY HIDING the BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION that was part of CDN GOVT contracts - and they are SLOUGHING OFF THE ELECTION BRIBERY that LIE-beral party BENEFITED FROM AS WELL!!!!

LIE-berals are engaged in PLEA BARGAINING - making MAJOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY INTO MINOR ISSUES by claiming “Caucus Privilege and Privacy rules” and using their parliamentary veto powers to CANCEL needed police investigation and trial!!!!!!!

LIE-berals boast that their immigration system is selecting candidates who “do well here” and of course the DEVIL is in the LIE-beral details!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only one third of those who come to Canada are considered “immigrants” in the conventional sense!!!!!

Most of the OTHER TWO THIRDS of people are those who come here as part of the “Family Re-unification Process” that lets in people WHO HAVE NO HOPE OF SUCCEEDING IN CANADA without getting Both govt and family aid and thus ARE NOT CONSIDERED AS IMMIGRANTS when LIE-berals count up the “successful immigrants” LIE-berals brought to Canada”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The swarms of illegals crossing our borders on a daily basis - and clogging up our homeless shelters and straining our welfare and food bank system are not counted as immigrants either - by always flexible with the truth LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals have - for the time being - abandoned their efforts to silence ALL their critics by using blanket accusations of alleged “Hate Speech” that LIE-berals think should be punished in one of their Human Rights Kangaroo Courts!!

LIE-berals have utterly FAILED to supply any logical definition of “Islamophobia” or any other type of “hate speech” - other than to indicate that they believe it is “HATRED” to say anything HARSH about LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Gilgamesh

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Who to vote for in Canadian federal election in 2019? It's that time again to start thinking about who to vote for so you can make an informed decision at the voting booth. There are three main political parties Liberal, Conservative and NDP and a whole bunch of fringe parties. What are the changes you want to see and which political party can accomplish that? What do you think?
We have such a corrupt and incompetent amateurish system that the voters only sane & logical recourse is to vote the local incumbent OUT
 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
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Just because they changed their name a few times doesn't change their stripes. They are still the right wing in Canada and virtually identical to the Liberals in representing Big Business above the electorate.






Congratulations Cliffy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have PROVED you are a STAR GRADUATE........................................


of the LIE-beral School of Propaganda and Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL OF US Cdns.....................................


LIVE OFF the earnings of Biz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Small or large or in the middle...................................


when LIE-berals screw biz with idiot taxes ........................................


such as the carbon tax SCAM.......................................................


LIE-berals ARE REALLY SCREWING EACH OF US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral carbon scam is merely a HUGE GRAVY GRAB....................................


by LIE-berals who are prepared to destroy Canada with debt.........................................


just so long as LIE-berals can retain power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is a tribute to the MUDDLED THINKING of people like Cliffy............................


that he THINKS LIE-berals can force us to do a FACE PLANT...............................


into the DEBT WALL...................................................


that will cause CHAOS when our economy is CUT OFF the easy credit....................................



while maintaining the supply of gravy flowing...............................


to drunken, unemployable, suicidal natives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cliffy is SO IGNORANT.........................................


he ACTUALLY TRUSTS LIE-beral promises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Nick Danger

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Jul 21, 2013
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We have such a corrupt and incompetent amateurish system that the voters only sane & logical recourse is to vote the local incumbent OUT


That has become the way of Canadian politics from the municipal level on up, we don't elect new representatives as much as we fire the old ones. Who is going to govern takes second place to who was in power and how much we want to get rid of them. This makes for easy campaigning, all you have to do is make the other guy look bad. No need for bothersome old policy statements and platform planks and all that other rubbish, it just lands in the circular file the day after the election anyways.
 

Nick Danger

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Jul 21, 2013
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For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?
 

spilledthebeer

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Jan 26, 2017
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Just because they changed their name a few times doesn't change their stripes. They are still the right wing in Canada and virtually identical to the Liberals in representing Big Business above the electorate.




Poor foolish Cliffy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You demonstrate your lack of understanding with each new post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?


For NicK- who is a DANGER mainly to himself......................................


this election is yet another opportunity to be TERMINALLY CONFUSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The POOR DANGEROUSLY foolish twit has NO



understanding of either Socialism or LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Walter

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For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?
No matter what socialists say it's always about me.
 

captain morgan

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For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?


As long as your collective good requires cash to fund it, you might want to think long and hard about shooting the goose that lays the golden egg... And that is EXACTLY what the left political parties are promoting in the policies that seek to fleece the companies/individuals that are the actual engines of the economy and deliver the funds needed to apply to the collective good
 

Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
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The goose that lays the golden egg is a greedy SOB and is hording all the gold. It is not good for the greater good of society, it is a detriment.


 

Nick Danger

Council Member
Jul 21, 2013
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As long as your collective good requires cash to fund it, you might want to think long and hard about shooting the goose that lays the golden egg... And that is EXACTLY what the left political parties are promoting in the policies that seek to fleece the companies/individuals that are the actual engines of the economy and deliver the funds needed to apply to the collective good


I'm okay with considering one's ability to pay when deciding how much of the burden they should shoulder. You look at the two extreme ends of the scale, those who have nothing and those who have more than they need, there is room to improve the balance without causing undue hardship.
 

Vbeacher

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For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?


The problem is that Socialism's zeal for the 'collective good' always leads to the collective bad. So determined are they to force equality they rob society's most productive people of any inspiration or reason to be productive, or simply drive them away. To protect the 'greater good' Socialists bail out industries and subsidize them with ever greater money, money that has to come from something which could increase production and productivity.



Capitalism isn't concerned with the bottom line of the individual. It is concerned with society, and realizes that the well-being of society, given human nature, requires rewards to those who strive and succeed, and denies them to those who do not. It is an imperfect system, but it has lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty while Socialism had put them back into it.