What's up with all the strikes lately?

petros

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No doubt.. Can you imagine the union demands for premium wages + overtime + danger pay?

The cost of a stamp would need to be $5.
That is not what was asked was it? Would you drive downtown, during busines hours, pay parking, drive home again to ship a parcel or is it easier and more convenient for you to drop off or pick up parcels in sublets near your home?

Does it or does it not cost you 30% more this year than last to drive downtown and back?
 

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Dont sell Crown corps: poll

Canadians have a message for the federal government - don't sell Crown corporations to reduce the deficit. A poll by The Canadian Press Harris-Decima suggests all but Conservatives are firmly against selling companies like Canada Post.

The Harper government announced in November's fiscal update that it is looking at selling Crown assets - and re-introduced the idea in January's budget. But it never said which assets - land, property or Crown corporations.

The poll focused specifically on the corporations.

Sixty per cent of respondents said it's a bad idea to privatize corporations, with the strongest opposition coming from Ontario at 66 per cent.

Dont sell Crown corps: poll - Politics - News - The News (New Glasgow)
 
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That is not what was asked was it? Would you drive downtown, during busines hours, pay parking, drive home again to ship a parcel or is it easier and more convenient for you to drop off or pick up parcels in sublets near your home?

I've also asked you a few questions, but they magically never seem to generate a response.

As for the 'saving money' scenario... The reality is that these services should reflect their true costs. Further, the union in question is serving only to unnecessarily amplify those costs. That said, convenience and individual money saving in this case is a moot point as the existing service is not completely equal to all persons utilizing the service.

Case in point, rural routes do not get home delivery, but some residential neighborhoods do... So, until there is an absolute degree of equality in terms of the provision of the service right across the board, analyzing individual conveniences and cost savings is a moot point, isn't it?
 

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Come on Flossy It's good to dump money making assets. CanadaPost could end up in IMF hands like our National Parks for debt repayment. I think it's awesome that I have to pay $50 a year to visit part of my own country that are now in International hands.
 

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Groupe La Poste becomes a Limited Company with 100% Public Ownership

La Poste changed its status on Monday, 1 March to become a limited company with 100% public ownership.

“La Poste will be able to develop, true to its mission of public service,” said Jean-Paul Bailly, Chairman of the Group.
This transformation opens the way for a capital increase of 2.7 bn Euros through the State and the Caisse des Depots et Consignations, for La Poste to provide funding for its modernisation and development of its activities.

In January 2010, French MPs finally approved the new postal law transforming La Poste into a limited company as of 1 March and then opening up the domestic mail market to competition in January 2011. The vote in the National Assembly was the final stage in the passage of the postal law through the French Parliament over the previous few months.

Groupe La Poste becomes a Limited Company with 100% Public Ownership | Post & Parcel
 
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I've also asked you a few questions, but they magically never seem to generate a response.

As for the 'saving money' scenario... The reality is that these services should reflect their true costs. Further, the union in question is serving only to unnecessarily amplify those costs. That said, convenience and individual money saving in this case is a moot point as the existing service is not completely equal to all persons utilizing the service.

Case in point, rural routes do not get home delivery, but some residential neighborhoods do... So, until there is an absolute degree of equality in terms of the provision of the service right across the board, analyzing individual conveniences and cost savings is a moot point, isn't it?
Moot? You'll pay out the ass to drive downtown taking time from work, pay for parking but won't pay less for for a superior service that doesn't cost nearly as much in cash and time? Do rural areas have Shoppers and 7-11? Do rural people have grocery stores, banks, Drs, on their rural roads or do they need to go to town anyway. I've never had to pay for parking in a small town. Have you?


Yeah that is moot allright.
 

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Come on Flossy It's good to dump money making assets. CanadaPost could end up in IMF hands like our National Parks for debt repayment. I think it's awesome that I have to pay $50 a year to visit part of my own country that are now in International hands.

That's right Big Sally, it's also good to pursue the strategy that got you into a position where profits actually exist....

Moot? You'll pay out the ass to drive downtown taking time from work, pay for parking but won't pay less for for asuperior service that doesn't cost nearly as much in cash and time?


Yeah that is moot allright.


Ignoring the base premise, are we?.. Don't like the question about equality of service, eh?

As far as a superior service is concerned, how would you know? It's not like you can compare it to anything in Canada, can you?

BTW - It's not like you don't need to go to the grocery store or anything either, right?
 

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The Greeks don't want to sell their Crown Corps either... Do ya think it's a good idea to fall in line with the Greek model?

Considering the fact that we have no where near the need for the same austerity measures that Greece has to deal with, and they still won't sell them off, this just fatally weakened your argument.

Shall I post the execution gif again?
 

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Considering the fact that we have no where near the need for the same austerity measures that Greece has to deal with, and they still won't sell them off, this just fatally weakened your argument.



Yeah... Good one.

Ya really got me there; using a bankrupt nation that espouses the same principles that you support is proof-positive that privatizing CanPost will fail.

<rolls eyes>


Shall I post the execution gif again?

It doesn't matter to me... It's your argument that is getting crucified here


You're making my argument for me.
 

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That's right Big Sally, it's also good to pursue the strategy that got you into a position where profits actually exist....




Ignoring the base premise, are we?.. Don't like the question about equality of service, eh?

As far as a superior service is concerned, how would you know? It's not like you can compare it to anything in Canada, can you?

BTW - It's not like you don't need to go to the grocery store or anything either, right?
That's odd I swear I mentioned how rural people have to go to town anyway for goods and services. Perhaps we should privatize all services like, fire, police, roads, too. Would you take the time to shop around afor a cheap meat wagon while bleeding to death or find cheaper cops to handle a life threatening situation? How about finding a cheaper fire dept while you house is ablaze?
 

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The Greeks don't want to sell their Crown Corps either... Do ya think it's a good idea to fall in line with the Greek model?

Greece was running large structural deficits. Every year since 1993 their debt to GDP has exceeded 100%. That has no semblance at all with Canada's economy. Do you think this is the path Harper is taking us on? If not, then why should we compare our situation to that of someone living outside their means?
 

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Do you know why some parts of cities get home delivery while others don't or some rural areas have comp boxes and others don't?


It doesn't matter why. In terms of our discussion relating to 'convenience' and cost savings, what matters is a level playing field... Your contention that rural populations have to go into town anyways defeats the point... We all have to leave our houses at some point, so using your logic, no one should have home delivery
 

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Greece was running large structural deficits. Every year since 1993 their debt to GDP has exceeded 100%. That has no semblance at all with Canada's economy. Do you think this is the path Harper is taking us on? If not, then why should we compare our situation to that of someone living outside their means?

.. And Canada is not the same as the Dutch or Scottish (?) examples mentioned either, so why point to those examples?

Yeah it does matter why.

It only matters for you as you need it to justify your argument.

If the cost to send/receive a letter is the same for all users, then the service should also be the same... Everything else is just an excuse (like they have to go into town anyways).
 

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What are the precise reasons behind home delivery, comp boxes and in town mail boxes? Don't give me any more of the drunkard busker song and dance B U L L S H I T.

Is it not a precise enough question for you?
 

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What are the precise reasons behind home delivery, comp boxes and in town mail boxes? Don't give me any more of the drunkard busker song and dance B U L L S H I T.

Is it not a precise enough question for you?


Ohhh c'mon now.. No need to get your knickers in a twist.

First, you go back and answer my questions and I'll get to yours. I'm tired of this being a 1-way street wherein you think that you are the director of the lines of questions.

Deal with my questions and you'll likely see the answers to yours.

Lastly, I don't f*cking care what the differences are..

Is the cost to mail a letter the same for everyone or not?