What's up with all the strikes lately?

[mentalfloss]

The real solution lies in privatizing the industry...

Two problems:

1.) Privatizing mail delivery has already created problems in elsewhere (Netherlands and UK specifically)
2.) Canadians do not support privatizing mail delivery.

Wait... I just realized..

Canadians don't support it... and it doesn't make sense....

So I guess we can expect to have privatized mail by next summer then, lol

 

[captain morgan]

Two problems:

1.) Privatizing mail delivery has already created problems in elsewhere (Netherlands and UK specifically)
2.) Canadians do not support privatizing mail delivery.

CanPost already privatized some elements and the world didn't come crashing down.. But wait! I just realized that the outsourcing of those components coincides with the Crown Corp making money!

Wow.. Who would have thunk it?

Wait... I just realized..

Canadians don't support it... and it doesn't make sense....

Canadians will get over it and based on the results associated with privatized components already in place, it does make sense.

So I guess we can expect to have privatized mail by next summer then, lol

With any luck, the ball will be in motion!

 

[mentalfloss]

CanPost already privatized some elements and the world didn't come crashing down.. But wait! I just realized that the outsourcing of those components coincides with the Crown Corp making money!

The problem is not the party making money, so much as how privatization changes the way mail is delivered.

“Postal deregulation would allow private companies to deliver mail in the lucrative urban areas while the public post office is left to service the higher-cost rural and isolated areas,” said Lemelin. “This is a recipe for drastic service cuts, job loss and post office closures.”

The Ipsos Reid poll, commissioned by the Canadian Union of Postal Workers, showed 46 per cent of respondents strongly oppose and 23 per cent somewhat oppose private company letter delivery. At the other end of the spectrum, nine per cent strongly support and 18 per cent somewhat support private-sector competition to the Crown corporation.


News: Poll shows public against private mail delivery at Public Service Alliance of Canada - BC Region


Anti-democracy? Check
Dumb move? Check

What are we waiting for?

 

[captain morgan]

The problem is not the party making money, so much as how privatization changes the way mail is delivered.

“Postal deregulation would allow private companies to deliver mail in the lucrative urban areas while the public post office is left to service the higher-cost rural and isolated areas,” said Lemelin. “This is a recipe for drastic service cuts, job loss and post office closures.”

The Ipsos Reid poll, commissioned by the Canadian Union of Postal Workers, showed 46 per cent of respondents strongly oppose and 23 per cent somewhat oppose private company letter delivery. At the other end of the spectrum, nine per cent strongly support and 18 per cent somewhat support private-sector competition to the Crown corporation.


News: Poll shows public against private mail delivery at Public Service Alliance of Canada - BC Region


Anti-democracy? Check
Dumb move? Check

What are we waiting for?

That is wwaaaayyy too funny!

An Ipsos Reid poll commissioned by the postal union backed up by an article written by PSABC.

Yeah, big surprise with the results on that one.

The fact still remains that CanPost's becoming a money-maker coincides with significant outsourcing to the private sector and no matter how many union newsletters you post, that fact will not change.

I like the bit about anti-democracy by the way. It goes very far to proving the reality that you don't have a leg to stand on.

Cheers

 

[JLM]

Two problems:

1.) Privatizing mail delivery has already created problems in elsewhere (Netherlands and UK specifically)
2.) Canadians do not support privatizing mail delivery.

Wait... I just realized..

Canadians don't support it... and it doesn't make sense....

So I guess we can expect to have privatized mail by next summer then, lol

Don't you think private enterprize can conduct business more efficiently than bureaucrats?

 

[captain morgan]

Don't you think private enterprize can conduct business more efficiently than bureaucrats?

It's been proven time and time again JLM.

It's only the unions that need to protect themselves that claim it isn't.

 

[TenPenny]

So, you're saying that private industry will deliver lettermail to Inuvik for 57 cents per piece?

 

[JLM]

It's been proven time and time again JLM.

It's only the unions that need to protect themselves that claim it isn't.

That was my impression.

So, you're saying that private industry will deliver lettermail to Inuvik for 57 cents per piece?

If one price fits all!

 

[captain morgan]

So, you're saying that private industry will deliver lettermail to Inuvik for 57 cents per piece?

Yup...

 

[mentalfloss]

So, you're saying that private industry will deliver lettermail to Inuvik for 57 cents per piece?

Only in a conservative's fairytale version of reality.

 

[TenPenny]

Yup...

Do you have a list of companies willing to do so?

 

[JLM]

So, you're saying that private industry will deliver lettermail to Inuvik for 57 cents per piece?

Or perhaps we should take a close look at the philosophy of "user pays". :lol:

 

[captain morgan]

Do you have a list of companies willing to do so?

Yes, there is a list of 14 (so far).

Only in a conservative's fairytale version of reality.

Ahhh... So, no rebuttal then?

 

[mentalfloss]

In the Netherlands, as in Britain, the postal market has been liberalised in the name of the consumer. Competition, it is said, will benefit everybody. But competition, as Leijten noted, only really exists for large organisations. Private citizens can't post letters in Sandd or Selekt mailboxes. There aren't any. Ordinary Dutch people still have to pay 46 cents to send a TNT letter.

TNT is being forced by the hedge funds and other transnational shareholders who control its destiny to split up, even as it tries to beautify its bottom line by replacing reasonably paid jobs with badly paid ones. Deutsche Post is pulling out of the Netherlands and selling Selekt to Sandd – a company that has never made a profit. Sandd, set up by a group of ex-TNT managers, pioneered the distinctive Dutch style of private mail delivery.

Privatised mail: a second-class delivery | UK news | The Guardian

 

[captain morgan]

And?

 

[cranky]

If the nation was faring just fine, why did we need legislation to end the lockout?

there, I fixed your post.


the government legislating the lockout back to work, is alot like a board of directors taking their president to court to hand him his next list of instructions.

 

[mentalfloss]

there, I fixed your post.


the government legislating the lockout back to work, is alot like a board of directors taking their president to court to hand him his next list of instructions.

Except this list of instructions came with a nice bonus.

And?

That's what I thought.

 

[petros]

That is wwaaaayyy too funny!

An Ipsos Reid poll commissioned by the postal union backed up by an article written by PSABC.

Yeah, big surprise with the results on that one.

The fact still remains that CanPost's becoming a money-maker coincides with significant outsourcing to the private sector and no matter how many union newsletters you post, that fact will not change.

I like the bit about anti-democracy by the way. It goes very far to proving the reality that you don't have a leg to stand on.

Cheers

.How do they manage to make money being publicly owned when they have to pay Unions like you say. The unions aren't making **** all. They only represent the workers. The workers don't work for the union. What as significantly outsourced to increase profits? Be specific and no fantasized version of reality will accepted,

Details. Give the details.

 

[TenPenny]

Yes, there is a list of 14 (so far).

Can you post it for us?

 

[captain morgan]

Can you post it for us?

I would, but then I'd have to kill ya

Except this list of instructions came with a nice bonus.



That's what I thought.

Ahhh, c'mon buddy... How come you have no answers for the issues that I brought up?

I know, maybe you can reference some more union literature as to why privatizing CanPost is so bad... Oh, and anti-democratic to boot!