Irrelevant. I'm sure that there aren't any corroborations to Rumpelstiltskin's abilities, also.
What would YOU want to hear at church?
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It all comes down to how much proof a books offers. The bible falls into the fairytale group. It is contradictory, advises illegal remedies to disbelief, promotes slavery and hatred. So, while I am reasonably knowledgeable about it's (bible) contents, I know that it is a very disreputable source of anything worthwhile.
Never thought of that before, but it makes perfect sense in light of the story. Penises are always trolling.
Put the prophecies together like they do at present, it at least elevates it up to the realm of 'well written fiction' that your mind can at least understand. I'm not sure this crowd is even at that stage yet.
No, worst case, only as long as it takes to read the story. Really, if you had any real understanding of what science has figured out about reality over the last four centuries or so, you could look at just the first page of Genesis and instantly realize that it's not a true story. In fact you could probably look at pretty much any page at random and you'd know that.
But you start from the premise that is IS a true story, and seek only to justify that belief. That requires you to deny a lot of things that we know to be true and generate elaborate scenarios, including making up things that have no biblical justification, to get around the differences between what we know to be true and what the Bible says, and the Bible's own internal inconsistencies and illogic. Starting from a conclusion then looking for evidence to support it is completely the wrong way around for finding out anything true or useful.
So is the sleeping for 20 years the 0 -20 yrs in a person's life and awakening is a hard-on?
Genesis 1 and 2 aren't enough information to reach any conclusions, conclusions come once you have read and understood the whole book, you aren't at that stage, neither am I but I do understand more than you do, that how I can be such a big-mouth about the various Bible passages.
For instance Jude and Peter have some information on the way things were before the flood in Genesis 6. Obviously reading that chapter is not going to be the same as it is in the before/after reading when those two references are taken into consideration. Other verses say there will be a return to those days before Jesus can return. That would seem to mean reading what is available in the Bible would be a 'wise thing to do' rather than promote keeping the book forever closed.
How could Peter and Jude have substantive knowledge of something that happened roughly 2300 years earlier (by bible-thumper reckoning)?
Here again you're using something said in a fictitious book to prove the veracity of a fictitious story in the same fictitious book...because that's the only argument, and I use that term very loosely, that you have ever had.
Have your beliefs, and you're welcome to them, but don't think that because others don't share your enthusiasm for iron age dogma that we're any worse off for it...
Enoch and Moses.
Jude:1:14:
And Enoch also,
the seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these,
saying,
Behold,
the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
De:33:2:
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
Jude:1:14:
And Enoch also,
the seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these,
saying,
Behold,
the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
De:33:2:
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
It wouldn't happen to just be because the same dude wrote both books, or at least collaborated with each other? The OT was put down on paper while the Jews were in captivity in Babylon and is based on or borrowed from much older Sumerian, Egyptian, Assyrian and Babylonian mythological texts. The author(s) of the OT could have pulled any number out of the air. If you want to read a fiction of immense complexity, read Lord of the Rings.
No wonder you stay away from the Bible if you find Lord of the Rings to be even a tad complex. lol
Yes, well-written fiction, for the time. In fact, parts of it are still worth presenting as good literature. However, the idea of adopting it as a blueprint to live by is much like elevating Shakespeare's stories as sacred prophecies.
Because those who wrote the bible were so emphatic about the universe/earth being created for human use, they didn't just create a means of "flock" control, but ensured the fulfillment of end times. They insisted we out-breed, overwhelm, the earthly balance, because we were "god's" favourite.
As a result of this belief, we have eliminated so many species and fouled the habitats of countless others, including our own. The weather patterns have changed and we are seeing supercell tornados, more frequent and much greater natural disasters all because we still "believe" we are special. We are like a plague on the planet!! It appears "Mother Nature" may do what we have failed to do on our own. Cut our species off at the knees.
What I would like to hear in church?? Declaration that any literature, person that espouses less than what we know is right, is not from a god and not worth worshipping. That all places of worship will be sold and the money put towards the formation and teaching of a more suitable moral and ethical body of work, to replace blind faith. Some of the monies should, of course, be donated for free tubal ligations, vasectomies and in abortions when or if these fail. That would be a small start.
I mean really well written. prophecies mention in De:4:30 are being enhanced on in Revelation as far as adding details to the event. Go ask Stephen King how hard that would be to do today with the writers in constant contact.
You never read the Lord of the Rings, did you? The complexity of the bible that you see is all in your head. It comes from trying to make a bunch of unrelated events and writings fit together when they don't. It is just your mental gymnastics that are complex and mind boggling to everybody else.
Plus 'The Hobbit', you know me, get as much info as possible. It only seems strange cause you are operating from zero knowledge.
You did get the symbolism between Golum and Banksters did you not? That should tell you who rules them. Luckily R. Santorum (sp) is already on the case. You will notice people are moving away, giving him the needed elbow room I suppose. The correct cure for even the strongest demon possession is give, ... wait for it, ...... in the Bible. Some require prayer and fasting, in Jesus's day He started out with a 40 day fast, our version is to not eat with 'the posessed one' for 40 days straight and by that time them being able to deceive you is pretty much null at that point. Don't let them hang around too much or you might start eating with them again.
I thought you said you read the Bible at one time? That not show up as a flashing text?
You did get the symbolism between Golum and Banksters did you not? That should tell you who rules them. Luckily R. Santorum (sp) is already on the case. You will notice people are moving away, giving him the needed elbow room I suppose. The correct cure for even the strongest demon possession is give, ... wait for it, ...... in the Bible. Some require prayer and fasting, in Jesus's day He started out with a 40 day fast, our version is to not eat with 'the posessed one' for 40 days straight and by that time them being able to deceive you is pretty much null at that point. Don't let them hang around too much or you might start eating with them again.
I thought you said you read the Bible at one time? That not show up as a flashing text?
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You have a great gift for reading into things stuff that just isn't there. Seriously, you're suggesting Tolkien was drawing a parallel between Gollum and bankers, that the latter are possessed by demons, and Rick Santorum knows what to do about it?
it was written by a Christian. (the same one who God used to help convert the atheist C.S. Lewis who wrote the narnia chronicles.)
Finally what the world has been waiting for, .... proof. ..... okay,,,,,,,, anytime you're ready ......
No, .... lol. That doesn't mean the writer of Alice in wonderland was not using the silver slippers in just that way though. Is greed for money a demon/disease in today's society? Rick's own party was ready to abandon him as soon as he said Satan's name.