What would it take?
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bulldog said:
Thank you, I try. Sometimes it is difficult, though.
I enjoy your posts, find them logical and thought out. Keep it up.
What would it take?
Not much of anything. I don't find Alberta much different from Montana or Nevada, etc. We're economically interdependent and culturally even more so. Canadians shop at Walmart, eat at McDonalds, watch Survivor, open up windows XP and listen to Hip Hop. Even when it's 'Canadian' it's more or less just a version of something American or of some other Western nation. What makes us Canadian isn't much different from what makes Texas different from New York or Montana different from Florida. The trappings are different...the color of the money, the queen on stamps, the passport, etc. but the day-to-day nitty-gritty lifestyle is more similar between Alberta and Nevada than Alberta and Quebec. This similarity increases every day or every year. Driving on the Deerfoot Trail in Calgary is more or less identical to driving through Spokane on the Interstate. Ther cars are the same, same music on the radio, the signs beckon you to Walmart and Taco Bell and even the same billboard advertising a family getaway to Disneyland.
Not much of anything. I don't find Alberta much different from Montana or Nevada, etc. We're economically interdependent and culturally even more so. Canadians shop at Walmart, eat at McDonalds, watch Survivor, open up windows XP and listen to Hip Hop. Even when it's 'Canadian' it's more or less just a version of something American or of some other Western nation. What makes us Canadian isn't much different from what makes Texas different from New York or Montana different from Florida. The trappings are different...the color of the money, the queen on stamps, the passport, etc. but the day-to-day nitty-gritty lifestyle is more similar between Alberta and Nevada than Alberta and Quebec. This similarity increases every day or every year. Driving on the Deerfoot Trail in Calgary is more or less identical to driving through Spokane on the Interstate. Ther cars are the same, same music on the radio, the signs beckon you to Walmart and Taco Bell and even the same billboard advertising a family getaway to Disneyland.
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The same kind of goes on our end here too. Maine is no differnent than New Brunswick. There are suttle differences: better cheeze, beer in corner stores. Other than that the people are the same (and most people in the maritimes have extended families along the east coast anyways) Although once you reach cape cod you do get scantily clad ladies walking around downtown, which you would never get here and they don't even throw t-shirts over their bathing suits there. :lol:
Our cultural trappings are more or less the same though as you stated, the main difference is Governance. Our governments are quite different, but the people, the grassroots in most cases are quite alike. Even if we were all one country we'd all be squabbling with city/county rivalries anyways, besides the regular east/west thing we'll get to add in a north/south too....wait that already exists, perhaps a far north/north/south thing.
stratochief said:
The same kind of goes on our end here too. Maine is no differnent than New Brunswick. There are suttle differences: better cheeze, beer in corner stores. Other than that the people are the same (and most people in the maritimes have extended families along the east coast anyways) Although once you reach cape cod you do get scantily clad ladies walking around downtown, which you would never get here and they don't even throw t-shirts over their bathing suits there. :lol:
Our cultural trappings are more or less the same though as you stated, the main difference is Governance. Our governments are quite different, but the people, the grassroots in most cases are quite alike. Even if we were all one country we'd all be squabbling with city/county rivalries anyways, besides the regular east/west thing we'll get to add in a north/south too....wait that already exists, perhaps a far north/north/south thing.
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[quote="Jo Canadian
Even if we were all one country we'd all be squabbling with city/county rivalries anyways, besides the regular east/west thing we'll get to add in a north/south too....wait that already exists, perhaps a far north/north/south thing.[/quote]
So true! At one level I've liked the thought of Alberta joining the USA but then there's a part inside of me that knows I'd been bitchin about Washington and New york instead of Ottawa and Toronto. Borders are becoming less important in day-to-day lives. I even wonder if Quebec 'leaves' would anyone hardly notice once the hysteria settled down? The 'bigness' of technological and cultural movements is transcending national borders. I doubt if a lot of kids today even notice if they're discussing the latest video game on the net with a fellow Albertan or some kid tapping the keys in Tokyo or Amsterdam.
[quote="Jo Canadian
Even if we were all one country we'd all be squabbling with city/county rivalries anyways, besides the regular east/west thing we'll get to add in a north/south too....wait that already exists, perhaps a far north/north/south thing.[/quote]
So true! At one level I've liked the thought of Alberta joining the USA but then there's a part inside of me that knows I'd been bitchin about Washington and New york instead of Ottawa and Toronto. Borders are becoming less important in day-to-day lives. I even wonder if Quebec 'leaves' would anyone hardly notice once the hysteria settled down? The 'bigness' of technological and cultural movements is transcending national borders. I doubt if a lot of kids today even notice if they're discussing the latest video game on the net with a fellow Albertan or some kid tapping the keys in Tokyo or Amsterdam.
As long as I see people in lotusland wearing socks and sandals, I will know that we are indeed just a little different 
I spent today at the Folk Festival. Trust me, socks and sandals are not considered different out there. Of course I would consider them stupid out there since the rain made the whole place a giant mud pit and the socks all got wet and muddy, but you know how Folk Festivals are...
"What would it take?"
only three things:
- the sun rising in the west.
- a pig passing through the eye of a needle.
- Wingnut voting for a Democrat.
No big deal.....
only three things:
- the sun rising in the west.
- a pig passing through the eye of a needle.
- Wingnut voting for a Democrat.
No big deal.....
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I think Alberta Cattle Farmers disagree with you. Didnt they want to open their own slaughter house because of this hole issue?
bluealberta said:
I think Alberta Cattle Farmers disagree with you. Didnt they want to open their own slaughter house because of this hole issue?
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That was not the issue in the original debate. However, yes, there is a move afoot now to open locally owne slaughter houses and packing plants, but until the upcoming court cases with R-Calf are finished, everything is on hold.
Numure said:
That was not the issue in the original debate. However, yes, there is a move afoot now to open locally owne slaughter houses and packing plants, but until the upcoming court cases with R-Calf are finished, everything is on hold.
What would it take?
The Americans would have to want us, and they don't. They consider us freeloading whiners.
At the same time, the Canadians would have to want them. Not likely.
Even if Canada were to split up, I can't see any part of it becoming part of the States.
The Americans would have to want us, and they don't. They consider us freeloading whiners.
At the same time, the Canadians would have to want them. Not likely.
Even if Canada were to split up, I can't see any part of it becoming part of the States.
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The US would take Alberta in a nanosecond, and Alberta would consider the US. Other than that, you are probably right.
Extrafire said:
The US would take Alberta in a nanosecond, and Alberta would consider the US. Other than that, you are probably right.
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I guess treason is something the proud people of blue's Alberta generally take in stride...
Pathetic... :roll:
bluealberta said:
I guess treason is something the proud people of blue's Alberta generally take in stride...
Pathetic... :roll:
Re: RE: What would it take?
Grow up Vanni. The question, or statement, was out there that the US would not want any part of Canada. That is wrong, just as it is wrong to assume that no one in Alberta would consider joining the States. Was it treason when the Soviet Union split into many countries? How about the Czechs? or any of the other countries that have split into separate entities over the past 20--30 years?
I personally support independence for Alberta, but the thread is about what it would take to join the US.
Treason has absolutely nothing to do with it, your response is irrelevant.
Vanni Fucci said:
Grow up Vanni. The question, or statement, was out there that the US would not want any part of Canada. That is wrong, just as it is wrong to assume that no one in Alberta would consider joining the States. Was it treason when the Soviet Union split into many countries? How about the Czechs? or any of the other countries that have split into separate entities over the past 20--30 years?
I personally support independence for Alberta, but the thread is about what it would take to join the US.
Treason has absolutely nothing to do with it, your response is irrelevant.
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What would you call selling your country down the river for economic gain and for the interests of a foreign nation then Blue...
Grow up? How about you shut the f*ck up and post your treasonous crap at some other Roost...
bluealberta said:
What would you call selling your country down the river for economic gain and for the interests of a foreign nation then Blue...
Grow up? How about you shut the f*ck up and post your treasonous crap at some other Roost...
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Baiting is not going to work, Vanni, sorry to burst your bubble gum bubble.
At the present time, many in Alberta feel we are selling our province down the river for nothing but waste and corruption in the country we are supposed to belong to.
As much as you hate Alberta and Albertans, why are you so argumentative when this subject comes up? I think, given your attitude towards us and our province, you would be very happy to see us go. Wouldn't have anything to do with the $10 - $12 billion we give Canada every year would it? Now who wants to keep us simply for your economic gain?
Vanni Fucci said:
Baiting is not going to work, Vanni, sorry to burst your bubble gum bubble.
At the present time, many in Alberta feel we are selling our province down the river for nothing but waste and corruption in the country we are supposed to belong to.
As much as you hate Alberta and Albertans, why are you so argumentative when this subject comes up? I think, given your attitude towards us and our province, you would be very happy to see us go. Wouldn't have anything to do with the $10 - $12 billion we give Canada every year would it? Now who wants to keep us simply for your economic gain?
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As much as you hate Alberta and Albertans, why are you so argumentative when this subject comes up? I think, given your attitude towards us and our province, you would be very happy to see us go. Wouldn't have anything to do with the $10 - $12 billion we give Canada every year would it? Now who wants to keep us simply for your economic gain?[/quote]
What arrogant ridiculous twaddle. No one hates Alberta or Albertans and no one has even mentioned such a thing. Take your .0000002% of Albertans who support this inane notion and seperate...please. We'll give you a mountain close to the U.S. border where the two of you can live, in clear sight of your beloved Merka, where you can worship without further interference. You clearly are incapable of *getting it*.
UGH!
As much as you hate Alberta and Albertans, why are you so argumentative when this subject comes up? I think, given your attitude towards us and our province, you would be very happy to see us go. Wouldn't have anything to do with the $10 - $12 billion we give Canada every year would it? Now who wants to keep us simply for your economic gain?[/quote]
What arrogant ridiculous twaddle. No one hates Alberta or Albertans and no one has even mentioned such a thing. Take your .0000002% of Albertans who support this inane notion and seperate...please. We'll give you a mountain close to the U.S. border where the two of you can live, in clear sight of your beloved Merka, where you can worship without further interference. You clearly are incapable of *getting it*.
UGH!