What religious affiliation do you think God is?

Minority Observer84

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You are one of the seeds that fell on the path and will be tread upon. Not all will heed the Word. Oh, well.
Hahahah the old "your just lost argument "
Too funny , yo see "they" realize they have no logical or rational bases apon which to center an argument so they are condemning you . Things like this just make me laugh .
 
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No it isn't. People who believe in God, believe in their version of God, whether as part of an organized religion or not. Your question has no meaning.

Well you just answered it...think about it....

What religous affiliation do you think god is?
"People who believe in God, believe in their version of God, whether as part of an organized religion or not."


then we got our Sanctus telling us God is a Roman Catholic.....

Seeing as i was a Roman Catholic and quit it seems God has given up roman Catholisism too....For i am created by God, and as part of that creation expierementing with and abandoning RC church, guess God did too......
Sanctus get with the program and abandodn that which God and me have done already......
 

Vereya

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The more I pay attention, the more I realize how much Islam and Christianity have in common, maybe they could call for a 'merger'.

I totally agree with you. If you start to examine these two religions, you will see that the differences are in fact minor and superficial. And the goal is the same - to control the people, depriving them of the freedom of will and thought, and to provide a good pretext for otherwise meaningless wars and animosity.
 

sanctus

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I totally agree with you. If you start to examine these two religions, you will see that the differences are in fact minor and superficial. And the goal is the same - to control the people, depriving them of the freedom of will and thought, and to provide a good pretext for otherwise meaningless wars and animosity.


It is fairly clear you are not overly familiar with the doctines and dogmas of the Church. There are few points in common between the teachings of the Church and the Muslim religion.

The most obvious, and most significant difference, is the relationship of Christ to His people as Saviour and Messiah.
 

sanctus

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then we got our Sanctus telling us God is a Roman Catholic.....

Seeing as i was a Roman Catholic and quit it seems God has given up roman Catholisism too....For i am created by God, and as part of that creation expierementing with and abandoning RC church, guess God did too......
Sanctus get with the program and abandodn that which God and me have done already......

Sanctus was being in a jocular mood, and was hardly serious.(as per comments regarding God being Catholic)

But as to your "getting with the programme"( and as an off note, when will Canadians stop spelling like Americans?), I am quite comfortable with the programme of salvation as given to the Church by Christ, thank you:)
 

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It is fairly clear you are not overly familiar with the doctines and dogmas of the Church. There are few points in common between the teachings of the Church and the Muslim religion.
The most obvious, and most significant difference, is the relationship of Christ to His people as Saviour and Messiah.

Sanctus, I am familiar enough with your religion's dogmas.
 

Dexter Sinister

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No, they were not. This kind of thing only began with artificially created monotheistic religions, such as Christianity and Islam. In most Pagan religions men and women were equal. And in many religions women were honored as the givers of life, while Christianity oppressed women and demonized the Feminine in general. I guess the reason for it is that a lot of things that are in the human nature became an unpardonable sin in Christianity.
I think you might be romanticizing paganism a bit. The old pre-Christian Greek and Roman civilizations didn't seem to have a high regard for women in most circumstances. Do some reading here for instance. I think you're certainly right about your last point though. To be human is to be a sinner in Christianity.
 

look3467

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The most obvious, and most significant difference, is the relationship of Christ to His people as Saviour and Messiah.>>>Sanctus

Now you have stated a beautiful truth, of which I would die for.

That left alone as stated and underlined is in itself what should be stated around the world as an option to those who would consider it.

But if not, God changes not, for still, He loves and saves all that He has created.

The church, churches, Mosques and any other religious organizations, all come under His love.
If, all of them exercised the love which He has for them all, though different, harmony would be the word for the day.

Unfortunately, mankind is weak in spirit and the flesh has an advantage, thus we have divisions.

Peace>>>AJ
 

look3467

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I think you might be romanticizing paganism a bit. The old pre-Christian Greek and Roman civilizations didn't seem to have a high regard for women in most circumstances. Do some reading here for instance. I think you're certainly right about your last point though. To be human is to be a sinner in Christianity.

I think history both pagan and religious paint a picture of the same treatment of gender.
Remember the cave man dragging the women by the hair?
Was that he prevailing attitude in a pagan society?

Peace>>>AJ
 

Vereya

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I think history both pagan and religious paint a picture of the same treatment of gender.
Remember the cave man dragging the women by the hair?
Was that he prevailing attitude in a pagan society?
Peace>>>AJ

Well, unfortunately, I do not really remember the caveman. I've never met him, and somehow I never came across any of his memoirs. Perhaps you were luckier than me in that respect, to have known him. Maybe he even shared some of his values with you :-?
However, I do think that at that level of human civilization women did some dragging, too, when they could. I don't really expect cave-people to be gentlemen and ladies. But to come back to the point I was making...
I will agree with Dexter sinister's opinion concerning the Greek and Roman and Oriental pagan cults, as I really know little enough about those, I was referring to Northern paganism, Norse and Slavonic. Of course we have to consider the fact that women were largely dependent upon men in those times, much more than now, due to objective historical reasons. But I do know that in ancient Slavonic tradition women were never treated as men's inferiors.
And now let's take a look at the Chrisitan and Muslim approaches. The way the women are treated in the Muslim world is a well-known fact. But few people know that Chrisitanity was on the verge of the same thing. When Christianity was only shaping itself from a sect into a religion, the question whether a woman has a soul or not was very seriously disputed. What turned the balance into our favor, was the fact that women brought the priests more money than the men did, and so as to keep a good source of income the priests allowed women to have souls. But for ancient women's generosity, we all could have been considered to be soulless creatures, worth nothing, and useful only for bringing boys into this world. Taking an intelligent human being and declaring that she has no soul and is actually not a human being at all, but just little better than an animal is something unthinkable for me. This fact makes me picture the founders of Christianity as shallow women-haters with lots of personal complexes.
 
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Vereya

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Unfortunately, mankind is weak in spirit and the flesh has an advantage, thus we have divisions.
Peace>>>AJ

Which is the advantage that the flesh has over the spirit? And why do you transfer your own weakness of spirit to the whole of mankind?
 

look3467

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Which is the advantage that the flesh has over the spirit? And why do you transfer your own weakness of spirit to the whole of mankind?

An umbrella is what? A covering? Or to stop the waters from drenching us? Or a shade from the sun?

We have to decipher true meanings and understandings based on given information, and by trial and error.

Christianity and the Muslims, have had to deal with learning by trial an error as well.
It is an evolution of religious beliefs, with the ultimate goal being love.

We are working on it despite our differences.

Just look at the Catholic church how far it has come, now women are allowed to minister communion.
Now we have women preachers, and next is a women president.

See, times are changing and all for the good, but not before we learn it well by trial and error.

From all the bad practices, lets us look to do the good.

Peace>>>AJ
 

look3467

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Which is the advantage that the flesh has over the spirit? And why do you transfer your own weakness of spirit to the whole of mankind?

The flesh is condemned, therefore it must die. The eternal spirit life can be had now, upon faith and belief in God, In which God gives us power over the desires of the flesh, that in them we may use them for good, rather then for our own lustful desires.

Examples are, musicians, actors, government officials, preachers etc.

All of them have particular gifts to be used for the good of the y neighbor, but to consume all of those talents for our selves, is purely a lustful fleshly desire, and has no part in the things of God.

The advantage of the flesh over the spirit is this, leave the spirit out, and you have purely the world of the flesh, and it will kill you.
But, if you invite the spirit of God in you, then you have His power to overcome the lusts of the flesh, and live as though the flesh is but a temporary body, with hopes of a better world beyond the death of this one.

Peace>>>AJ
 

JoeSchmoe

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Which god are we talking about? There are many.... each have their own followers and temples... Zeus is the king of gods...
Poseidon is the god of the sea...
Nike is the godess of victory...

The list goes on and on.... Myths you say? Possibly.... but every bit as real as the Christian or Islamic deities.
 

look3467

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Which god are we talking about? There are many.... each have their own followers and temples... Zeus is the king of gods...
Poseidon is the god of the sea...
Nike is the godess of victory...

The list goes on and on.... Myths you say? Possibly.... but every bit as real as the Christian or Islamic deities.

The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, whose Son was prophesied to come and to become the Savior of the world.
In which He came, and accomplished all that was said of Him in our behalf.

Peace>>>AJ