what religion do you think the Devil started

eanassir

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Look raises a good point - the Bible, or any other "Holy Scripture" is so vague and subject to "interpretation" that any clever fellow could make it mean whatever he wants. And has.It's one of the silliest "books " ever written. And one of the most hateful.

On the contrary, the word of God is the guide of man, and it save him from the darkness of ignorance, atheism, idolatry and polytheism to the light of recognizing God the Creator Who bestowed on man every bounty, and yet the disbeliever is ungrateful and after being a little amount of seminal fluid, then becoming a man, he became an opponent of His Creator. Truly, the atheist and the polytheist who associate others with God; such are like the blind.
 

eanassir

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Dear EANSSIR;

I TAKE IT YOU ARE A MUSLIM.
A FOLLOWER OF THAT SO CALL CALLED PROPHET.
THE CHILD RAPIST AND INFIDEL.


MAY YOU SEE THE ERROR OFYOUR WAYS AND FORSAKE YOUR FAITH IN WHAT THE WORLD HAS COME TO DISCOVER AS "THE STUDIDSET RELIGION OF ALL TIME".

YEAH, PEACE ASHOLE.

You are forging lies; and I guess what are you; you are only an enemy of both Jesus and Mohammed; and you are stubborn like the stubborn deniers of all the prophets. God gives witness to the prophecy of his servant Mohammed, even if you dislike that.
 

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The ability to do evil is resident in all of us, bar none. Whether we call it evil or not, religious or not, evil is evil when applied.

Evil is something that has to be overcome and only through knowledge of it and knowledge of good, can we differentiate between the two.


Yes, the word 'evil' is another story. A very dark disturbing word, but not 'devil', it is
lighthearted and cheaky.
 

talloola

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nice dog...Lab?


My avatar is my husband and our 'chocolate lab' Joe, he was born right into the palm of
my hand, the last littler of labs that I bred for, as I bred and raised show/hunting labs
for many years.

He is so handsome and so perfect in all ways that, I feel like the luckiest person to have him. He has a beautiful lab temperament, and all he really wants is, to be close to us
and lay right at our feet. He also seems to take an interest in hockey games on tv at
times, so, what more could one ask of their dog. He knows not to get exicted when
the leafs play.
 

look3467

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When I want not to take responsibility for my actions, I will blame..............the devil?

Or, if I want to describe a person's character who has committed a crime, would I call him the devil incarnate?

But really, lets be realistic, the power of suggestion is just a thought, but when it takes seed, the thought becomes and action, whether it be a good thought or an evil thought.

So, the lusts of the flesh which are, greed, jealousies,prejudices glutenous, power and glory, are what the flesh desires which are against God and of which God gives power over.

So, the devil is all these things, that when action is taken, the devil gets the blame.

Peace>>>AJ
 

look3467

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Mildly curious to know what point you are trying to make...

My point is, that blindness happens to all mankind, for we are all born in darkness, and drawn to the light as we progress through this journey of life.

To see the value of God, ones eyes must first be opened to see, as the verse goes: ...."they have eyes but can not see, ears but can not hear"....so is mankind whose eyes have not being opened to the spiritual world.

That is no fault of mankind, but blindness today is no excuse, because of the wealth of information available for our own personal research.

If we don't like the churches, then seek that information out personally, and make that determination for oneself.

Peace>>>AJ
 

eanassir

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The ability to do evil is resident in all of us, bar none. Whether we call it evil or not, religious or not, evil is evil when applied.

Evil is something that has to be overcome and only through knowledge of it and knowledge of good, can we differentiate between the two.


Yes, the word 'evil' is another story. A very dark disturbing word, but not 'devil', it is
lighthearted and cheaky.

True.
In addition, there are devils: invisible beings, that stir this evil and enhance man to commit faults against God, against himself and against others.
This cannot be denied, and mentioned in all the heavenly books.

 

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Scott Free

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To answer the original question of this post: I think there is ample evidence that all religion is man made. So if the devil is a man then it is fair to say all of them. If the devil is also man made (highly probable) then it is fair to say non of them. The devil is in the details.
 

look3467

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To answer the original question of this post: I think there is ample evidence that all religion is man made. So if the devil is a man then it is fair to say all of them. If the devil is also man made (highly probable) then it is fair to say non of them. The devil is in the details.

The devil is not man but the devil instincts in man is. Devil instincts are those things which go against anything that is godly.

Religious upbringing need not apply, for even one who knows not God has within the same ability to discern good from evil, for the inner man of the heart, is the conciseness of the spirit of God.

The strength of conviction then, is monitored by the Holy Spirit of God in the inner man and gives strength to those convictions according to His will.

Got to remember, that this life is a learning course, that both sides are needed in order to contrast the differences by which we may exercise good judgment in all matters.

Wrestling with God is an everyday occurrence, because the inner man's spirit drives by prompts to give action to those prompts.

Therefore, choices are made, and many times our choices are fleshly based rather that spiritually based, and are prone to be repeated until we get it right.

All the time though, whether right or wrong, God is a loving parent, willing that none should perish, but that all should be saved.

Peace>>>AJ
 

eanassir

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I think there is ample evidence that all religion is man made.

This assumption is not correct.

People at the start, at the time of Adam, were on one religion worshipping God alone, without any associate or equal.
In other words, Adam was a prophet of God. Adam together with his sons served God Almighty: the Creator.

Then, afterwards, they fell into idolatry and associating some peers or equals with God.

Therefore, God sent them many apostles to warn them of severe punishment if they keep up their idolatry and association, and to give the glad tidings for those who exclusively serve Him alone and do not associate with Him any one or any thing.

God – be exalted – said in the Quran 2: 213

كَانَ النَّاسُ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً فَبَعَثَ اللّهُ النَّبِيِّينَ مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنذِرِينَ وَأَنزَلَ مَعَهُمُ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ لِيَحْكُمَ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ فِيمَا اخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ وَمَا اخْتَلَفَ فِيهِ إِلاَّ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوهُ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ بَغْيًا بَيْنَهُمْ فَهَدَى اللّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لِمَا اخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ مِنَ الْحَقِّ بِإِذْنِهِ وَاللّهُ يَهْدِي مَن يَشَاء إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ

The explanation: (People were one community [of monotheists],
and God sent prophets with the glad tidings and the warning, and sent down the [Heavenly] Scripture with them, indicating the true [religion]; that the [prophet] might judge people concerning their deviation [from monotheism];
but none deviated therefrom save those [religious leaders] given the [Scripture] even after the manifest [signs] had come to them, due to their 'greed and their wronging each other';
so God, with His permission, guided the believers to the truth from which they deviated; for God guides whom He pleases to a standard path [of monotheism.] )
 
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This assumption is not correct.

People at the start, at the time of Adam, were on one religion worshipping God alone, without any associate or equal.
In other words, Adam was a prophet of God. Adam together with his sons served God Almighty: the Creator.

Then, afterwards, they fell into idolatry and associating some peers or equals with God.

Therefore, God sent them many apostles to warn them of severe punishment if they keep up their idolatry and association, and to give the glad tidings for those who exclusively serve Him alone and do not associate with Him any one or any thing.

God – be exalted – said in the Quran 2: 213

كَانَ النَّاسُ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً فَبَعَثَ اللّهُ النَّبِيِّينَ مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنذِرِينَ وَأَنزَلَ مَعَهُمُ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ لِيَحْكُمَ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ فِيمَا اخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ وَمَا اخْتَلَفَ فِيهِ إِلاَّ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوهُ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ بَغْيًا بَيْنَهُمْ فَهَدَى اللّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لِمَا اخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ مِنَ الْحَقِّ بِإِذْنِهِ وَاللّهُ يَهْدِي مَن يَشَاء إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ

The explanation: (People were one community [of monotheists],
and God sent prophets with the glad tidings and the warning, and sent down the [Heavenly] Scripture with them, indicating the true [religion]; that the [prophet] might judge people concerning their deviation [from monotheism];
but none deviated therefrom save those [religious leaders] given the [Scripture] even after the manifest [signs] had come to them, due to their 'greed and their wronging each other';
so God, with His permission, guided the believers to the truth from which they deviated; for God guides whom He pleases to a standard path [of monotheism.] )

This isn't proof or evidence of anything except you believe this authors retelling of an old fable. In the original version of the story Adam and Eve were the first man and woman period. I have to ask why the new story? Why is it that now suddenly Adam is a profit? Could it be that a pedophile sought to dupe the idiot masses into believing he too was a profit and as evidence he made up this story? I think so. If not what evidence do you have that this isn't the case? Show it, demonstrate the truth for all to see! If he knew something we didn't then he must have brought forth some new knowledge, some insight other than a simple retelling that is a poor confirmation about himself?
 

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Dear EANSSIR;

I TAKE IT YOU ARE A MUSLIM.
A FOLLOWER OF THAT SO CALL CALLED PROPHET.
THE CHILD RAPIST AND INFIDEL.


MAY YOU SEE THE ERROR OFYOUR WAYS AND FORSAKE YOUR FAITH IN WHAT THE WORLD HAS COME TO DISCOVER AS "THE STUDIDSET RELIGION OF ALL TIME".

YEAH, PEACE ASHOLE.

Congrads on winning the A-hole of the month award.
 

Scott Free

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Congrads on winning the A-hole of the month award.

This is an unfair assessment

The religious can be given no leniency or benefit of the doubt. What they claim and their own actions and behaviour historically demonstrates the absolute worst of human darkness. Now today with the battle of the Christian forces against those of the Muslim we see that evil pouring out again causing untold misery. Both groups should be admonished for their lunacy, lies and deceit. They are the very scum of the earth no matter how they might plead and beg otherwise - the evidence is in. They are a vile malevolent lot that don't hesitate to kill in the name of a loving god. They twist and rape the word peace to get their own way. There is no moderate "Christian," there is no moderate "Muslim," history has demonstrated this all too well. They are armies of the deluded and brainwashed, a rallied force, waiting to unleash horrors on the planet at any given moment with the proper opportunity.

The only hope real peace has is that their twisted psychopathy be challenged at every moment so that they relinquish some or all of their delusions. So they can rejoin the community of man.

No one benefits from placating such a foe. There is no wisdom in respecting that which deserves non but our deepest loathing.
 

talloola

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This is an unfair assessment

The religious can be given no leniency or benefit of the doubt. What they claim and their own actions and behaviour historically demonstrates the absolute worst of human darkness. Now today with the battle of the Christian forces against those of the Muslim we see that evil pouring out again causing untold misery. Both groups should be admonished for their lunacy, lies and deceit. They are the very scum of the earth no matter how they might plead and beg otherwise - the evidence is in. They are a vile malevolent lot that don't hesitate to kill in the name of a loving god. They twist and rape the word peace to get their own way. There is no moderate "Christian," there is no moderate "Muslim," history has demonstrated this all too well. They are armies of the deluded and brainwashed, a rallied force, waiting to unleash horrors on the planet at any given moment with the proper opportunity.

Your post is so very true, we, who can see it for what it is, are forced to spend our lives
watching this behavior go on and on, between religions, it is disgusting.
Religions are the farthest thing from wanting peace, yet they preach it all the time,
and in the next breath judge everyone who doesn't think the way they do, and yes,
they will kill in the name of their religion.
Very hypocritical and blind.