My friend, all of us are tried by the same temptations, but not all of us respond to them to the same degree.
In the case of Joseph, the motivating factor was not Satan, but greed, jealousies.
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My friend, all of us are tried by the same temptations, but not all of us respond to them to the same degree.
In the case of Joseph, the motivating factor was not Satan, but greed, jealousies.
How the Devil or Satan works against sons of Adam
He does not speak with an audible voice, but by he sends the idea to man by inspiration which is called whispering or suggestion. Man does not hear an audible voice, but he receives an evil idea (as if someone speaks to him) instigating him to disbelieve and deny God, His apostles and His revealed Books, or other evil ideas. And he goes on asserting that to him until he yields and accepts his suggestion, and mostly such man is unaware in case he is an associater or idolater or evil-doer.
- Satan commands man to associate anyone or anything with God, so that man may serve God and another one with Him, at the same time.
- He distracts man from showing gratitude to God Most Gracious.
- Bids adultery, evil and that man may ascribe sons or daughters or equals to God.
God –be exalted – said in the Quran2: 169
إِنَّمَا يَأْمُرُكُمْ بِالسُّوءِ وَالْفَحْشَاء وَأَن تَقُولُواْ عَلَى اللّهِ مَا لاَ تَعْلَمُونَ
The explanation: (For he only commands you to evil and fornication, and that you should say – about God – things that you do not know.)
- Specially by means of drinking wine and gambling, he stirs quarrelling and hatred among people.
- Diverts man from remembering God and hider him from the prayer.
- He may make the matter confused for man, in order to mislead him.
- He makes the idolatry and disbelief fair seeming to people, so that they increase in such error and misguidance.
Let me ask you a question, have you and I the same ability to discern good from evil?
If the answer is yes, then we both adhere to the same principle, that being that we both know the difference between the two, and have the same choice to go either way.
That is common to all humanity, unless one was born without that ability, such as mentally retardation.
Each religious belief has its own view of what, and or who Satan is.
You will it, it gets you, but if not, God will give you the strength to resist the fleshly temptations.
Peace>>>AJ
If the answer is yes, then we both adhere to the same principle, that being that we both know the difference between the two, and have the same choice to go either way.
That is common to all humanity, unless one was born without that ability, such as mentally retardation.
Each religious belief has its own view of what, and or who Satan is.
You will it, it gets you, but if not, God will give you the strength to resist the fleshly temptations.
Peace>>>AJ
Past tense or present tense, as in not being diminished but inherent in all of us to varying degrees, depending on our spirituality with God?
Peace>>>AJ
Not exactly; but in case man is alert about the suggestion and whispering of devils; he then will avoid such suggestion and seek protection of God everytime he encounters this satanic instigation or prompting.
We can not be alert first without having knowledge of Gods laws as guide lines.
We are first in darkness (Born in) and then we get glimpses of light by which we are drawn to.
The degree of light we receive depends on how we receive it, and if God wants a particular activity for us in this world.
But everybody receives some form of light by which one can determine right from wrong.
The world of the flesh is for the flesh, all things for the flesh and the spirit is for the spirit, all things for the spirit.
They are in direct contrast one with the other for the express purpose of teaching us to manage them.
How we manage them, details our involvement with life, the degree of suffering and or repeat ion of sufferings until we work to get it right.
Trials are set by God for that purpose, or say He becomes our adversary for the trials that we go through, in hopes that we will learn from them by seeking His help.
That scenario is the same for every soul, believer and to the unbeliever alike. There is no difference.
Now, if we learn to manage our spirituality to the point where love becomes the weapon of choice, then religion, religions have no power over us.
We become one with God in His administration of love in a world of adversity.
There is where we stand out above it, there is where we are different, for we are not as the world is, but as God is.
Why do I not have any problems with any of you all? Because I am above all religious and none religious beliefs, believer and or unbeliever.
Love is the above all those things onces, that is, we learn to grasp it, understand it and then apply it.
By me, you can practice any form of religious belief you like, and I will still accept you as a brother or sister.
I may not agree with some practices, and I will discuss them with you, but would never condemn you for what you don't understand, concerning the love of God.
The love of God is greater than any one of you can imagine, but you might get a glimpse of it as a father or mother of children, in that regardless what the children may do, your love for them is still steadfast.
The Quarn is good for you as the bible is for me, so together as brother and sister, as siblings of the almighty God, we are instructed to love each other regardless.
And if we can do that, God promises to reward us with all peace, joy, contentment, temperance, long suffering and love.
If we are to be effective in our loving, let us lead and not push, let us draw and not force, let us demonstrate by example, not by words only, for if we do it right, we will have attained that level of spiritual maturity which is priced above all rubies.
Peace>>>AJ
AJ,
Why not, love is very good; it is the philosophy of love; we should love God more than anyone, and love anyone who loves God, and dislike anyone that does not love God. This is the First Commandment: to love God with all your strength and with all your mind. And in the Quran the believers love God more than anyone else.
I see that Jesus Christ said plainly addressing Satan [as in the Gospel according to Matthew 4: 10:
"Then said Jesus to him, Get you hence, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve."
But this is not symbolic; and no need for complex explanation, while the truth is conspicuous and in no need to any complex views.
Moreover, God – be glorified – wants to take people out of the darkness of the association and ignorance to the light of monotheism and to know that their Creator is the same One Who is Most Gracious and Most Kind and Most Merciful; He takes care about their affairs and bestows on them all His bounties. Who does provide for them with provision and sustenance? Is it Jesus Christ – peace be on him – or is it God?
God-be exalted- said in the Quran, chapter 5: 15-16
(يا أهلَ الكتابِ قد جاءَكم رسولُنا يبيّنُ لكم كثيراً مِمّا كنتم تُخفونَ مِن الكتابِ و يعفو عن كثير، قد جاءَكم مِن اللهِ نور و كتاب مبين(15) يهدي بهِ اللهُ من اتّبعَ رضوانَهُ سبلَ السّلامِ و يخرجُهم من الظلُماتِ إلى النّورِ بِإذنِهِ و يهديهم إلى صراطٍ مستقيم.)
The explanation: (15- O people of the Scripture [: Jews and Christians], now has Our messenger [, Mohammed,] come expounding to you many things in the Scripture that you have been hiding, and many things else he disregards. There has come to you light from God and a clear ‘Book’ [: the Quran.]16-Whereby God guides him who seeks His good pleasure to the paths of safety, and brings them out of darkness to light with His leave, and guides them to a standard path [of monotheism that will lead them to Paradise in the Hereafter].)
A Call from God to the People of the Scripture [: Jews and Christians]
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/english2.htm#CallfromGod
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I understand all of that, but, that is the old description, and will stay in the dictionary
forever.
My interpretation is one of 'real life', as I have never heard anyone call someone a devil,
with any serious and miserable contotation, but I have heard, many times, what I
described above, and, for me that is what 'devil' means, as I have no connection with
any religious or ancient meaning, to me, that is just silly and makebelieve, I cannot
relate to that at all.
You see and explain that saying of Jesus at face value, while I see the spiritual happenings behind that saying. Don’t get me wrong, that is the traditional way of looking at it without having any enlightenment of its spiritual connotation.
What Jesus is not able to see is passed it, for He is blinded from seeing it.
Job is a similitude of Jesus: Isa 42:19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the LORD'S servant?
- My servant: Jer 33:22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.
- The “seed” of David, my servant, meaning Jesus.
Joh 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
After Jesus dies on the cross, we are no longer called servants, but friends, for we do know what the Lord does, that is, if we have understanding.
Peace>>>AJ
there is no devil.. No God either. No heaven or hell,or magical beings, angels or demons.
These are all the product of human imagination ,fear, wishful thinking, ignorance and insecurity.
Such is the sorry state of man's existence and lack of insightfulness that we have to create magical realms to explain our poor ignorance.
These are all the product of human imagination ,fear, wishful thinking, ignorance and insecurity.
Such is the sorry state of man's existence and lack of insightfulness that we have to create magical realms to explain our poor ignorance.
The ability to do evil is resident in all of us, bar none. Whether we call it evil or not, religious or not, evil is evil when applied.
Evil is something that has to be overcome and only through knowledge of it and knowledge of good, can we differentiate between the two.
It does not take a religious rocket scientist to understand that, for even a child can learn to understand the difference.
If you will, that ability is what the curse on all mankind is. There is no original sin, but knowledge of Good and evil is what is, and every living soul will (unless one is mentally not able to reason) to eat of that tree.
Picture then, everything that is of the flesh must remain here after one dies, because it is not acceptable in the spiritual, for it is against God.
But the soul’s heart lives on in the spiritual, for God Himself in Jesus provided the escape from it.
Peace>>>AJ
The sorry state is, that we fail to recognize the love that is us ward, especially during these modern times, when there is a wealth of information, our early ancestors were not privy to.
It is, then without excuse, not to see that love, but, it is as you wish.
If that is not exercising a godly type quality, (Choice) then we are blinded by our own ignorance.
And that, is a consideration taken into account by the almighty, on our account, thus unconditional love is rendered.
Peace>>>AJ
This is what I mean: you give the words meaning other than the obvious meaning. Who says : Jesus meant this? Or will you impose such meaning on him, and it must be so, other than the evident meaning?
Look raises a good point - the Bible, or any other "Holy Scripture" is so vague and subject to "interpretation" that any clever fellow could make it mean whatever he wants. And has.It's one of the silliest "books " ever written. And one of the most hateful.
The Devil, Satan, Beelzebub (or Ibliess) indicates one person, who is their father and the chief one.
While the word "devils" indicate the many individuals among the alive demon, human beings, and their evil souls.
All these whisper and suggest to man every disobedience of God.
This is in the Quran 6: 112
وَكَذَلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نِبِيٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيَاطِينَ الإِنسِ وَالْجِنِّ يُوحِي بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَى بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ الْقَوْلِ غُرُورًا
The explanation: (As such have We appointed to every prophet an enemy – devils of men and genies; inspiring tawdry words to each other, by way of deception.)
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