bevvyd said:
That would be a bad precedent. A follow up to that would be that anyone could be punished for a crime committed by their child, even when the parent is in no way responsible.
What Makes Suicide Bombers Tick?
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That would be a bad precedent. A follow up to that would be that anyone could be punished for a crime committed by their child, even when the parent is in no way responsible.
Machjo said:
IF a suicide bomber knew ahead of time his family would be affected negatively, he might think twice. (unless he is so cold and jaded , he cares nothing for them too---- It is obvious he cares very little about his own life)
Ocean Breeze said:
But if he did it anyway?
So then not only did he show he didn't even care about his family, but on top of that the police would punish them for his action?
I can see an ethical issue there.
What makes them tick:
"they're nationalist insurgents with a secular, strategic goal: ousting the military forces of democratic countries from land the insurgents believe is theirs. The suicide terrorists believe their land and way of life are threatened."
So there, and that was on the first page.
Terrorists are just the name of an army that fights one at a time instead of on a battlefield - wouldn't Bushbaby like to have them all line up together!
They love their land and their freedoms, such as they were and not as they are, or might be, in democracy. "Demon-ocracy" has not yet shown them our way is better - election fraud has allready put them off of it for a generation.
Get out get out get out, but first, repair the electric and water you broke. And stop being so smug about the innocents you killed Bushbaby, apologise like you mean it, Bee-ell-zee-bubba.
"they're nationalist insurgents with a secular, strategic goal: ousting the military forces of democratic countries from land the insurgents believe is theirs. The suicide terrorists believe their land and way of life are threatened."
So there, and that was on the first page.
Terrorists are just the name of an army that fights one at a time instead of on a battlefield - wouldn't Bushbaby like to have them all line up together!
They love their land and their freedoms, such as they were and not as they are, or might be, in democracy. "Demon-ocracy" has not yet shown them our way is better - election fraud has allready put them off of it for a generation.
Get out get out get out, but first, repair the electric and water you broke. And stop being so smug about the innocents you killed Bushbaby, apologise like you mean it, Bee-ell-zee-bubba.
Sorry Pea but Bush and his gang are the ones setting the agenda and getting rich beyond there wildest dreams .They don't care about Iraq or the US all they care about is lining there pockets and they'll kill and maim anyone who gets in the way .They deserve everything they are getting
Ocean Breeze said:
On top of the guaranteed entry to paradise and the 72 virgins, the suicide bomber also believes he gets an additional 72 free passes to paradise that he can distribute to anyone he wants. Unless he has a really big family, he's got them covered.
They care very little for life on earth. The afterlife is all that matters.
indeed. (ethical issue). So it comes down to what provides these people with INCENTIVE to behave this way??? Tackling that might be a place to start.[/b]
Vanni Fucci said:
Despite your post being a banal attempt at deflection, it made me realize I really didn't know the answer. My curiosity led me to do some research.
The most prevalent theme is that of dying a good death, maintaining the honour of Nation and Emperor. The Emperor was, of course, considered a deity by the Japanese.
There was not the same religious homogeneity that we commonly see in Islamic suicide bombers today, but afterlife was definitely in the minds of most Kamikazes. An excellent treatise on it here:
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~liminal/papers/matsuo/kamikaze.html
One example of a letter to mom from a Kamikaze who happened to be Christian:
I trust that you are in good health. I am a member of the Shichisei Unit of the Special Attack Corps. Half of our unit flew to Okinawa today to dive against enemy ships. The rest of us will sortie in two or three days. It may be that our attack will be made on 8 April, the birthday of Buddha. ……………….. Please do not grieve for me, mother. It will be glorious to die in action. I am grateful to be able to die in a battle to determine the destiny of our country. ……………….. On our last sortie we will be given a package of bean curd and rice [Shinto ritual for luck]. It is reassuring to depart with such good luncheon fare. I think I'll also take along the charm and the dried bonito from Mr. Tateishi. The bonito will help me rise from the ocean, mother, and swim back to you. At our next meeting we shall have many things to talk about which are difficult to discuss in writing. But then we have lived together so congenially that many things may now be left unsaid. 'I am living in a dream which will transport me from the earth tomorrow.' ……………….. We live in the spirit of Jesus Christ, and we die in that spirit. This thought stays with me. It is gratifying to live in this world, but living has a spirit of futility about it now. It is time to die. I do not seek reasons for dying. My only search is for an enemy target against which to dive. ……………….. There is nothing more for me to say, however, by way of farewell. I will precede you now, mother, in the approach to Heaven. Please pray for my admittance. I should regret being barred from the Heaven to which you will surely be admitted. Pray for me, mother. Farewell, Ichizo
Thanks for the interesting distraction. 8) I love learning about history.
Kamikaze's weren't diving into shopping centers either, so I don't think the analogy is correct.
But don't their mindsets seem similar?? Don't both appear to be brainwashing?? History repeats itself over and over again.
Kamikazes also weren't dropping daisy cutters and depleted uranium into civilian neighbourhoods, ITN.
peapod said:
Yes, I agree with you here, they seem to have the same mindset. Can't argue with logic.
Reverend Blair said:
Of course not Rev, deflecting the topic at hand when you can't make the argument has always been your strong suit.