The only difference between out two statements is wording. I'll put it another way. Live each moment as if it were your last.
What is life all about?
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The only difference between out two statements is wording. I'll put it another way. Live each moment as if it were your last.
Ah, wording. It makes all the difference!
I wholeheartedly agree with your newer statement.
only you, wednesday, could tell us that you've been diagnosed with a terminal illness and still stay on topic afterwards.
Lucky lady with her new lung - I am jealous and medical science never ceases to amaze me...along with their courageous patients who are actually explorers in our world of internal things.
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She's a 79 years old deep South Georgian who tells us about tornado alley and who lived
in a union town supplying the poor with union clothes and who did not get a new lung 15 years ago.
She's living with just one, her old original one. The other was removed.
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She's a 79 years old deep South Georgian who tells us about tornado alley and who lived
in a union town supplying the poor with union clothes and who did not get a new lung 15 years ago.
She's living with just one, her old original one. The other was removed.
Thanks people
Sorry for the confession - it has become part of me now so I was bound to say something - and it doesn't surprise me it was in response to a question by China!
JimM
One lung? I didn't realize - good for her - she's one tough cookie.
Sorry for the confession - it has become part of me now so I was bound to say something - and it doesn't surprise me it was in response to a question by China!
JimM
One lung? I didn't realize - good for her - she's one tough cookie.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]What is living? What actually is existence, living, this whole field of man's endeavour to better himself not only in the technological world but also psychologically? Man wants to be different he wants to be more than he is. Isn't the way we live most impractical an insane way of living destructive with utter indifference to the earth? Is this the way to behave to appreciate the beauty of living? Is there a way of living without conflict?
As a human being am I ever conscious? And what is consciousness? Is consciousness its content? Is death a continuity of that consciousness? Or the ending of consciousness with its content?What is death? If one is not frightened, then what is death? What is it one is frightened of in death? Is it of losing the content of consciousness?Death becomes a living when the content of consciousness which makes its own frontier, its own limitation comes to an end. Can that content be emptied, empty itself?Can the mind be aware totally of all the content the collective, the personal, the racial, the transitory?You can only incarnate now when you die to the content. You can be reborn, regenerated totally if you die to the content. So living is dying.Living, love and death are one, moving and indivisible. And that is immortal. [/FONT]
As a human being am I ever conscious? And what is consciousness? Is consciousness its content? Is death a continuity of that consciousness? Or the ending of consciousness with its content?What is death? If one is not frightened, then what is death? What is it one is frightened of in death? Is it of losing the content of consciousness?Death becomes a living when the content of consciousness which makes its own frontier, its own limitation comes to an end. Can that content be emptied, empty itself?Can the mind be aware totally of all the content the collective, the personal, the racial, the transitory?You can only incarnate now when you die to the content. You can be reborn, regenerated totally if you die to the content. So living is dying.Living, love and death are one, moving and indivisible. And that is immortal. [/FONT]
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You may wish to actually READ the thread you started about the meaning of life. Particularly Curiosity's responses. You made a bit of a fool of yourself spouting philosophy without reference to the startling announcement she made. _________________________________________________
Thanks for your concern hermanntrude.I have send a PM to Curio , and will get in touch with her soon.There is a little matter of time difference ,China / USA .
You may wish to actually READ the thread you started about the meaning of life. Particularly Curiosity's responses. You made a bit of a fool of yourself spouting philosophy without reference to the startling announcement she made. _________________________________________________
Thanks for your concern hermanntrude.I have send a PM to Curio , and will get in touch with her soon.There is a little matter of time difference ,China / USA .
It's generally considered poor form to post PM's. Was there a particular reason you couldn't simply reply to him in PM?
karrie ,
It's generally considered poor form to post PM's. ____________
You are correct.Normaly I would not do it .__________
Was there a particular reason you couldn't simply reply to him in PM? ___________________________________________________
I have.
It's generally considered poor form to post PM's. ____________
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I have.
China/Hermann
Please - I made a mistake yesterday sharing that information - it just came out when I read the title of China's post - because I have lately begun to understand how precious life is and what we can do
for ourselves instead of just cruising through the days waiting for life to 'do something' instead of making those 'somethings' happen for us.
I realize now I should not have put up such personal information but I wanted people to know there is
a great dynamic to being alive if we would allow it to happen - and life is simply about being alive - interacting with others, the problems of life, the joys of life, using our minds, hearts, bodies and each contributing what we can to the group, and if possible having a laugh at ourselves often.
I guess I have discovered it isn't all about us living within ourselves, but extending ourselves outward and perhaps making a difference in some small way. I never meant to make people feel uncomfortable but it is a natural reaction.
People are still going to get mad at me, argue what I write, agree with something I have said, give me kind words and all the things I experienced before - because that is life in a forum. Nothing has changed in reality. People join and leave and it is an ongoing stream of humanity and thoughts.
China Your thoughts and posts have opened my mind to so many possibilities and they could not have come at a better time for me. I am always grateful.
Hermann My apologies, an internet forum is no place to write what I did - it places a nasty load on far too many people... while I am feeling lighter and more comfortable than I have in years.
I can't retract what I wrote because the topic China gave us is exactly what I am experiencing. I was hoping people might want to grab a slice of life instead of letting the moments get away.
Please - I made a mistake yesterday sharing that information - it just came out when I read the title of China's post - because I have lately begun to understand how precious life is and what we can do
for ourselves instead of just cruising through the days waiting for life to 'do something' instead of making those 'somethings' happen for us.
I realize now I should not have put up such personal information but I wanted people to know there is
a great dynamic to being alive if we would allow it to happen - and life is simply about being alive - interacting with others, the problems of life, the joys of life, using our minds, hearts, bodies and each contributing what we can to the group, and if possible having a laugh at ourselves often.
I guess I have discovered it isn't all about us living within ourselves, but extending ourselves outward and perhaps making a difference in some small way. I never meant to make people feel uncomfortable but it is a natural reaction.
People are still going to get mad at me, argue what I write, agree with something I have said, give me kind words and all the things I experienced before - because that is life in a forum. Nothing has changed in reality. People join and leave and it is an ongoing stream of humanity and thoughts.
China Your thoughts and posts have opened my mind to so many possibilities and they could not have come at a better time for me. I am always grateful.
Hermann My apologies, an internet forum is no place to write what I did - it places a nasty load on far too many people... while I am feeling lighter and more comfortable than I have in years.
I can't retract what I wrote because the topic China gave us is exactly what I am experiencing. I was hoping people might want to grab a slice of life instead of letting the moments get away.
Its ironic that a person needs to be shaken from its deep living sleep to realize what it is to be alive.
I don't have any physical problems that I know of that will shorten my life or cut it short. Twelve years ago I went through a bad break up, thought my life ended there. Looking back it was the best thing that could of happened to me. I was asleep at the wheel. Met the right people in the right place. After my dark period life shined brighter even if financially I had to eat peanut butter toast for a couple of weeks for meals. The sun gave me that morning kiss on my cheek saying hello. It was wonderful.
Now that seems like Eons ago, time seems to slip by and I'm back to going through the motions again. Looks like I need that shake down again. Oh well
I don't have any physical problems that I know of that will shorten my life or cut it short. Twelve years ago I went through a bad break up, thought my life ended there. Looking back it was the best thing that could of happened to me. I was asleep at the wheel. Met the right people in the right place. After my dark period life shined brighter even if financially I had to eat peanut butter toast for a couple of weeks for meals. The sun gave me that morning kiss on my cheek saying hello. It was wonderful.
Now that seems like Eons ago, time seems to slip by and I'm back to going through the motions again. Looks like I need that shake down again. Oh well
ElBarto
Thanks for your kindness - I am embarrassed for writing what I did and touched by the words... sometimes we humans have to be hit over the head to 'get it' eh? Doing without what we take
for granted is a tough lesson....losing it is even tougher.... but it makes us appreciate what we
can handle and what we have.
Thanks for your kindness - I am embarrassed for writing what I did and touched by the words... sometimes we humans have to be hit over the head to 'get it' eh? Doing without what we take
for granted is a tough lesson....losing it is even tougher.... but it makes us appreciate what we
can handle and what we have.
Strange how one has to find "life" of meaning of by something taking away --
I only hear people talk about how good life can be or how much more they experience when something has been taking away --why cant we experience life before that has to happen ??/
and no one can explain this to you until it happends to you
I only hear people talk about how good life can be or how much more they experience when something has been taking away --why cant we experience life before that has to happen ??/
and no one can explain this to you until it happends to you
I only hear people talk about how good life can be or how much more they experience when something has been taking away --why cant we experience life before that has to happen ??/
-------------------------------------------Temperance-----------------------------------
It is how we see dimensions.
We only know things by contrast or comparison.
For example if height was everywhere the same--------we would not notice it, or even know
that such a dimension exists.
For example if an animal stayed motionless in the motionless tree stand, we would not notice
the animal is there. But once it moves, we catch its motion and notice it.
One more sledgehammer example or analogy: No mountain without a valley ?
awright, sorry about that last example.
Tao lives on.
For that matter, we know poverty and wealth only by contrast.
-------------------------------------------Temperance-----------------------------------
It is how we see dimensions.
We only know things by contrast or comparison.
For example if height was everywhere the same--------we would not notice it, or even know
that such a dimension exists.
For example if an animal stayed motionless in the motionless tree stand, we would not notice
the animal is there. But once it moves, we catch its motion and notice it.
One more sledgehammer example or analogy: No mountain without a valley ?
awright, sorry about that last example.
Tao lives on.
For that matter, we know poverty and wealth only by contrast.
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JimMoyer
I think often we compare ourselves with others in the 'living state' because that is all we have to compare ourselves with.
We judge ourselves harshly, find people who have more of a certain 'thing' than we have - yet in order to maintain our unique status, we all must of necessity be different, have our own skils and talents, and needs.
There are many in our world who can live on a minute portion of what we in our modern world seem to believe is a necessity of life.
Comparisons are all we have - but they are not necessarily accurate when it comes to our state of living as a human being.
"Living well" has so many components attached to it - it takes a lifetime to understand whether we have lived at all and perhaps for some the understanding comes too late.
I have been observing many elders these days who often have that dreamy look in their eye - whether dwelling in memory, events lost, good and bad - a review of what has gone before - and when I ask them if satisfaction is part of their dreaming - they nod affirmatively.
I have been given the advantage of a moratorium - not a date - but the possibility of less time than I assumed I would have - it has charged my need to live with a fullness and a selfishness and a voracious appetite for taking some risks..... all of this...and more. I may attempt to eat a parsnip which at the age of five renounced to hell as a non-food and a punishment! I may still hate it.
I wish I had learned this when I was younger and in better health ... but when we are young we have little capacity in recognizing time spent in enrichment or waste.
I think often we compare ourselves with others in the 'living state' because that is all we have to compare ourselves with.
We judge ourselves harshly, find people who have more of a certain 'thing' than we have - yet in order to maintain our unique status, we all must of necessity be different, have our own skils and talents, and needs.
There are many in our world who can live on a minute portion of what we in our modern world seem to believe is a necessity of life.
Comparisons are all we have - but they are not necessarily accurate when it comes to our state of living as a human being.
"Living well" has so many components attached to it - it takes a lifetime to understand whether we have lived at all and perhaps for some the understanding comes too late.
I have been observing many elders these days who often have that dreamy look in their eye - whether dwelling in memory, events lost, good and bad - a review of what has gone before - and when I ask them if satisfaction is part of their dreaming - they nod affirmatively.
I have been given the advantage of a moratorium - not a date - but the possibility of less time than I assumed I would have - it has charged my need to live with a fullness and a selfishness and a voracious appetite for taking some risks..... all of this...and more. I may attempt to eat a parsnip which at the age of five renounced to hell as a non-food and a punishment! I may still hate it.
I wish I had learned this when I was younger and in better health ... but when we are young we have little capacity in recognizing time spent in enrichment or waste.
You keep talking Wednesday's Child.
You keep posting.
And by the way you mentioned parsnips. Not related, but I bought two parsimmons. I have yet
to look up how to eat them, when they're ripe, but it is my continuing pursuit of mystery fruits.
Each month I look for a mystery fruit I've never eaten before.
Pomengranates. Interesting. The avrils in it make me think of HI-C coolaid.
Paw Paws excellent.
Anyway, your observations about how it takes a lifetime maybe to know how to live
life right is like a bright tear in the eye, something making me want to explore and think on. Right now I wonder whether I'm doing the right thing by my daughter, but
that's another matter. I'm the last person on Earth she wants to listen to. And when
I get hurt deeply I go into shun mode. Not good. Probably the best things you can
do in life is to do right by your family.
Anyway Oprah-size me !!!
You keep posting.
And by the way you mentioned parsnips. Not related, but I bought two parsimmons. I have yet
to look up how to eat them, when they're ripe, but it is my continuing pursuit of mystery fruits.
Each month I look for a mystery fruit I've never eaten before.
Pomengranates. Interesting. The avrils in it make me think of HI-C coolaid.
Paw Paws excellent.
Anyway, your observations about how it takes a lifetime maybe to know how to live
life right is like a bright tear in the eye, something making me want to explore and think on. Right now I wonder whether I'm doing the right thing by my daughter, but
that's another matter. I'm the last person on Earth she wants to listen to. And when
I get hurt deeply I go into shun mode. Not good. Probably the best things you can
do in life is to do right by your family.
Anyway Oprah-size me !!!
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I don't want to highjack one of China's threads, but I couldn't resist commenting on the parsnips/fruit issue.
Curio.... sliced into coins, and fried in butter, until they're a little crispy, is the best way, IMO, to eat parsnips. They end up sweet, a little crispy on the outside, and a bit soft inside. A comfort food in my books, since my dad loves them.
Jim.... I know I've eaten persimmon, and it seems to me we just waited until it was super soft, then sliced it up, nibbling the flesh off the skin (but don't hold me to that). Very tart the ones we had. If you find a good produce department though, you can just ask them to give you samples of their more exotic fruits. I ended up getting a whole group of friends a free sampling of dragon fruit that way once, and the department guy was happy, because he sold not only one to us, but also two to other people who were passing by and heard our praises of it.
Curio.... sliced into coins, and fried in butter, until they're a little crispy, is the best way, IMO, to eat parsnips. They end up sweet, a little crispy on the outside, and a bit soft inside. A comfort food in my books, since my dad loves them.
Jim.... I know I've eaten persimmon, and it seems to me we just waited until it was super soft, then sliced it up, nibbling the flesh off the skin (but don't hold me to that). Very tart the ones we had. If you find a good produce department though, you can just ask them to give you samples of their more exotic fruits. I ended up getting a whole group of friends a free sampling of dragon fruit that way once, and the department guy was happy, because he sold not only one to us, but also two to other people who were passing by and heard our praises of it.