Hi S.J.P. After the comment I placed a smiley- thought everyone might recognize it as a twist on a statement made by Will Rogers about 80 years ago.
What Americans really think.
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Hi S.J.P. After the comment I placed a smiley- thought everyone might recognize it as a twist on a statement made by Will Rogers about 80 years ago.
Does that prove their healthcare system is worse or that they are bigger whiners?
Yukon Jack, I remember on the other forum, Perpetual (remember him?) asked you why you don’t emigrate to USA, since you apparently like their health care system so much. Then he answered his own question, you probably cannot afford the expensive medical insurance there.
I cannot speak about your personal experience. Somehow, the extreme right always seems to have bad experience with Canadian system (maybe doctors, nurses can instinctively spot a right wing extremist coming and purposely give him substandard treatment).
However, statistically, Canadian system works much better than American system, according to all the indicators of good health. Incidentally, I have had nothing but good experience with our health care system, on the rare occasions when I had to use it.
If you don’t like it here, I suggest you cross the border to get the kind of health care you want.
I'll take the Canadian or British system any day!
So would most Canadians and most British, Gopher. And surprisingly, so would a substantial minority of Americans. The poll I saw a couple of years ago (I posted it on the Canada.com forum) said that 30 to 40% of Americans would actually like a single payer system, like we have here.
"Yukon Jack, I remember on the other forum, Perpetual (remember him?) asked you why you don’t emigrate to USA, since you apparently like their health care system so much. Then he answered his own question, you probably cannot afford the expensive medical insurance there."
SirJosephPorter, you never miss an opportunity to tell the totally uninterested world that I am an immigrant to Canada. What you never mention is that I have been an immigrant (and a Citizen) here longer than you. (At least based on your mostly immature posts I presume that you are much, much younger than me.)
So, I have invested my life in this country. I married a Canadian girl. My children and grand-child (and the one due in in late August, 2009) are Canadians. Needless to say, so am I.
However, one does not need to be blind to be a patriot. Patriots who are blind - in the final analysis - are not patriots at all.
So, I have no desire to emigrate to America. I lived there, and if I had to live anywhere, other than Canada, it would be The States.
In my post - the one you eloquently respond to - I described only some of my experience with the Canadian socialized health care system. I could give you examples why I like the American system better, based on my experiences during the six years that I lived in the States, but what's the use.
And, yes, if I moved to the States, I COULD afford the health care costs, (or even travel to exotic places like India, or go to Vienna or Budapest for a Strauss/Lehar/Kalman operetta event) even though my wife is not a doctor.
SirJosephPorter, you never miss an opportunity to tell the totally uninterested world that I am an immigrant to Canada. What you never mention is that I have been an immigrant (and a Citizen) here longer than you. (At least based on your mostly immature posts I presume that you are much, much younger than me.)
So, I have invested my life in this country. I married a Canadian girl. My children and grand-child (and the one due in in late August, 2009) are Canadians. Needless to say, so am I.
However, one does not need to be blind to be a patriot. Patriots who are blind - in the final analysis - are not patriots at all.
So, I have no desire to emigrate to America. I lived there, and if I had to live anywhere, other than Canada, it would be The States.
In my post - the one you eloquently respond to - I described only some of my experience with the Canadian socialized health care system. I could give you examples why I like the American system better, based on my experiences during the six years that I lived in the States, but what's the use.
And, yes, if I moved to the States, I COULD afford the health care costs, (or even travel to exotic places like India, or go to Vienna or Budapest for a Strauss/Lehar/Kalman operetta event) even though my wife is not a doctor.
I don’t know Yukon Jack. You always put down Canada, you hardly like anything Canadian. You are forever singing to high Heaven praises of USA. It seems to me you ended up in the wrong county, you should have emigrated to USA. Then you wouldn’t have to pay extra for watching FOX.
As I was browsing in the very liberal Los Angeles times, I found what at least one American thinks.
Take the Limbaugh Challenge - Los Angeles Times
Mr. Klavan could have written the same article titled "Take the FOXNews Challenge".
Take the Limbaugh Challenge - Los Angeles Times
Mr. Klavan could have written the same article titled "Take the FOXNews Challenge".
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Yukon Jack, I read the news item. The fellow was positively insulting to the liberals. And then he tells them to listen to Rush Limbaugh and expects them to obey him? At one point he refers to himself as 'that nice Mr. Klavan'. Indeed.
Whatever the merits of listening to Limbaugh (and I have listened to him occasionally in the past), if I am a liberal reading this piece, no way that is going to persuade me to listen to Limbaugh.
Yukon Jack, Sir Joe- just wondering if you guys have a life beyond Liberals and Conservatives who appear to "own" you guys. Wouldn't it be a lot better to be nobodies slave? especially those bandit. When arguing politics it's impossible to be right more than 10% of the time because the whole concept is so fraught with corruption it's like choosing which will be your favourite animal, a rat or a skunk.
Sure I have life beyond politics, JLM. In fact, I am not involved in politics at all, beyond voting in the elections. If you see all the varied kinds of topic I participate in (politics religion, science, philosophy etc.), you wouldn’t make such a statement.
My knowledge is widespread. Why, just yesterday I told a poster about a dominatrix site. He was wondering if such a site existed, to which my answer was yes. Or a few days ago I was discussing orders of infinity (do the terms Aleph Null and Aleph One mean anything to you?).
I have knowledge about a wide variety of subjects, politics does not really figure into my life, except voting (I never miss a vote). Maybe you read only the treads to do with politics, so you miss my participation in other threads.
Yawns.
Anyway, what Americans really think is probably as varied as what Canadians or Czechs or Nigerians or anyone else thinks.
Anyway, what Americans really think is probably as varied as what Canadians or Czechs or Nigerians or anyone else thinks.
perhaps not Nigerians, Gilbert. They may be thinking most of the time where the next meal is coming from.
Does anyone really care what americans really think?
Sounds to me ,from what I hear, like the car companies are gonna sell insurance to risky buyers...
Will this insurance be mandatory?..
How much is the government gonna put into this new auto insurance bank?..
Here's an out there idea(whatdu expect lol)..Perhaps the car companies could give all it's valued employee's cars and trucks for a job well done .(Sell them insurance at the same time) ...Their names could be on their new car our truck as it travelled down the line...Also gives the employee a sense of job security!....
Why not take it a step further?
Give people in general the choice of the car they want to buy..(with options, (hopefully THEY will choose "green " cars):wink: ..then build it!
Same ol games ..different faces ...
A true public consensus can be found easily if big leaders are willing to open their eye's and listen...If anyone really cared about what americans think
Sounds to me ,from what I hear, like the car companies are gonna sell insurance to risky buyers...
Will this insurance be mandatory?..
How much is the government gonna put into this new auto insurance bank?..
Here's an out there idea(whatdu expect lol)..Perhaps the car companies could give all it's valued employee's cars and trucks for a job well done .(Sell them insurance at the same time) ...Their names could be on their new car our truck as it travelled down the line...Also gives the employee a sense of job security!....
Why not take it a step further?
Give people in general the choice of the car they want to buy..(with options, (hopefully THEY will choose "green " cars):wink: ..then build it!
Same ol games ..different faces ...
A true public consensus can be found easily if big leaders are willing to open their eye's and listen...If anyone really cared about what americans think
Re #191.
There is no greater ignorance than self-imposed ignorance. And there is no person more proud of his ignorance than the person who imposed that ignorance upon himself.
You find a person referring to himself in a clearly tongue-in-cheek way as nice, insulting. You find an invitation to listen to someone you never listened to (in spite of your claim to the contrary, you could not name a single radio station that features Limbaugh, if your very life depended on it), offensive.
My, my, you liberals have thin skins. Never wasted much time growing up either. An adult person would remember the nursery rhyme every child of five knows about sticks and stones.
It is also a safe bet all your wise and all-knowing remarks about Townhall, Worldnetdaily, FOXNews, HumanEvents, etc, are nothing but uninformed hearsay.
You claim that you have "widespread" knowledge. Based on expert posts on every subject reveals that that is true. However, judging by the contents of those posts, your knowledge appears to be superficial and shallow, because you deny yourself the opportunity to widen your horizons by self-inflicted restriction to learn from sources whose value you have no experience or knowledge to assess properly.
By all means, close your eyes and ears. Bury your head in the sand, as well.
And, by all means, be proud doing it.
There is no greater ignorance than self-imposed ignorance. And there is no person more proud of his ignorance than the person who imposed that ignorance upon himself.
You find a person referring to himself in a clearly tongue-in-cheek way as nice, insulting. You find an invitation to listen to someone you never listened to (in spite of your claim to the contrary, you could not name a single radio station that features Limbaugh, if your very life depended on it), offensive.
My, my, you liberals have thin skins. Never wasted much time growing up either. An adult person would remember the nursery rhyme every child of five knows about sticks and stones.
It is also a safe bet all your wise and all-knowing remarks about Townhall, Worldnetdaily, FOXNews, HumanEvents, etc, are nothing but uninformed hearsay.
You claim that you have "widespread" knowledge. Based on expert posts on every subject reveals that that is true. However, judging by the contents of those posts, your knowledge appears to be superficial and shallow, because you deny yourself the opportunity to widen your horizons by self-inflicted restriction to learn from sources whose value you have no experience or knowledge to assess properly.
By all means, close your eyes and ears. Bury your head in the sand, as well.
And, by all means, be proud doing it.
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You find an invitation to listen to someone you never listened to (in spite of your claim to the contrary, you could not name a single radio station that features Limbaugh, if your very life depended on it), offensive.
Yukon Jack, it most certainly was offensive, he was insulting the liberals in his article and then asking them to listen to Limbaugh. Which liberal is going to obey his command, after he insults them?
My, my, you liberals have thin skins. Never wasted much time growing up either.
It is not a question of thin skin. If you insult a person and then order him to do something, there is no way he is going to obey you (unless you have the power and authority to enforce your orders). Insulting somebody is the quickest way of making sure that he will not obey your order.
I don’t see even one liberal listening to Limbaugh as a result of this article. But maybe that is what the author intended all along.
It is also a safe bet all your wise and all-knowing remarks about Townhall, Worldnetdaily, FOXNews, HumanEvents, etc, are nothing but uninformed hearsay.
Believe what you will Yukon Jack. I do read these websites once in a while, if only to know what the far right is thinking.
However, judging by the contents of those posts, your knowledge appears to be superficial and shallow
Now, that is only your opinion, isn’t it? Have you ever proved me wrong?
Yukon Jack, it most certainly was offensive, he was insulting the liberals in his article and then asking them to listen to Limbaugh. Which liberal is going to obey his command, after he insults them?
My, my, you liberals have thin skins. Never wasted much time growing up either.
It is not a question of thin skin. If you insult a person and then order him to do something, there is no way he is going to obey you (unless you have the power and authority to enforce your orders). Insulting somebody is the quickest way of making sure that he will not obey your order.
I don’t see even one liberal listening to Limbaugh as a result of this article. But maybe that is what the author intended all along.
It is also a safe bet all your wise and all-knowing remarks about Townhall, Worldnetdaily, FOXNews, HumanEvents, etc, are nothing but uninformed hearsay.
Believe what you will Yukon Jack. I do read these websites once in a while, if only to know what the far right is thinking.
However, judging by the contents of those posts, your knowledge appears to be superficial and shallow
Now, that is only your opinion, isn’t it? Have you ever proved me wrong?
I finally figured out your problem. You just have a really bad grasp of the English language. From reading the article, it is clear (well, clear to most everybody) that the author was challenging people and not ordering people. Perhaps it would help you if we dumbed down the conversation. I could write at a grade two level if that would help you.