What Americans really think.

[YukonJack]

"Have you ever proved me wrong?"

Of course I have. Many times. Any time your only comeback is "That is your opinion", I know beyond any doubt you have nothing of value to add and leave the debate, letting you bask in the false impression that you "won".

I think you are in a desperate need of an up-to-date dictionary. As Cannuck points out in the post above (#200, thanks Cannuck!), your comprehension of some words in the English language is somewhat suspect. But, then, what the heck do I know? I am just an immigrant, as you so point it out so frequently.

 

[gopher]

''Another Jesse Ventura type response.''

My former governor is a Conservative.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

"Have you ever proved me wrong?"

Of course I have. Many times. Any time your only comeback is "That is your opinion", I know beyond any doubt you have nothing of value to add and leave the debate,

Point out even one instance where you have proved me wrong, Yukon Jack. And just saying to me that I am wrong doesn’t’ count. As you yourself said, that is just your opinion. Show me where you have proved me wrong, not just told me that you think I am wrong.

As Cannuck points out in the post above (#200, thanks Cannuck!), your comprehension of some words in the English language is somewhat suspect. But, then, what the heck do I know? I am just an immigrant, as you so point it out so frequently.

Cannuck is a Troll; he is here not to discuss, debate, but to pick fights. Many posters have told him that he is a Troll and given up in disgust. I pay no more attention to him that I would pay to the poodle yapping at me in the street.

My comprehension of only’ some’ words? I thought you would say that my comprehension of the whole English language is (somewhat? Why not totally? If you are going to make baseless accusations, why not go the whole hog?) suspect.

But as you say, that is just your opinion. I think my comprehension of English language is perfectly fine.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

''Another Jesse Ventura type response.''

You flatter me, Yukon Jack.

 

[ironsides]

What is all this talk about Rush Limbaugh, seems the Democrats are the ones trying to make some sort of icon out of him. Guess they need someone to attack now that the Republicans are in such disarray. He is just a radio/TV talk show personality, actor, nothing more. No, he will never be President. There you have heard it first from me.

 

[YukonJack]

''Another Jesse Ventura type response.''

You flatter me, Yukon Jack.

SirJosephPorter, if you think that I flattered you, you obviously missed my post #229, in the "Earth Hour" thread, which quite succinctly and correctly describes the very essence of you, in an anecdotal way.

You are really grabbing at straws, when you declare a fellow poster a troll, and falsely claim that many others agree with your assessment of Cannuck. He earned your indignant ire, when he quite correctly pointed out that you twisted the meaning of words to suit your own purpose.

It might be a good idea for you to expand your budget and buy a mirror as well as an up-to-date dictionary. And perhaps enroll in classes that teach modesty and proper self-evaluation.

 

[YukonJack]

"Why not totally? If you are going to make baseless accusations, why not go the whole hog?"

Sorry, SirJosephPorter, that is a typical liberal trait and you mastered it. You certainly go the whole hog.

To you, everyone on your right is a rabid extremist. To you, everyone who who profess faith is a bible-thumpeing redneck. To you, everyone who disagree with you is here only to pick a fight. To you, everyone who does not love the idea of SSM is a despicable homophobe. To you, every newspaper or TV channel that does not support your view in a blind 100% sort of way is unreliable and untrustworthy. To you, those who stand up for the rights of unborn human babies are anti-feminist luddites.

Talking about "whole hog"!!

Have you ever given credit or concession to anyone opposing your views?

Now, don't get me wrong, I admire your chutzpah in spinning words of others to your advantage. It takes special talent. And a certain degree of dishonesty.

 

[JLM]

Sure I have life beyond politics, JLM. In fact, I am not involved in politics at all, beyond voting in the elections. If you see all the varied kinds of topic I participate in (politics religion, science, philosophy etc.), you wouldn’t make such a statement.

My knowledge is widespread. Why, just yesterday I told a poster about a dominatrix site. He was wondering if such a site existed, to which my answer was yes. Or a few days ago I was discussing orders of infinity (do the terms Aleph Null and Aleph One mean anything to you?).

I have knowledge about a wide variety of subjects, politics does not really figure into my life, except voting (I never miss a vote). Maybe you read only the treads to do with politics, so you miss my participation in other threads.

Okay, I'll buy that but it's just your incessant nattering about certain personal traits being tied to political beliefs which is pure and utter hog wash. Most people aren't anything when it comes to politics, they just vote for whoever they think the most capable or is going to do them the most good. I get tired of hearing how Liberals are more tolerant and more versatile and more up to date in their thinking and Conservatives are set in their ways and show little tolerance. How tolerant of a person was Trudeau? Was he any more tolerant than Joe Clark? Trudeau could barely tolerate western CAnada. Hey I vote Conservation one election and Liberal the next, what's that make me? A chameleon?

 

[Said1]

''Another Jesse Ventura type response.''

My former governor is a Conservative.

But isn't he all tweaked out, now? Like, nutso? :lol:

 

[JLM]

Okay, I'll buy that but it's just your incessant nattering about certain personal traits being tied to political beliefs which is pure and utter hog wash. Most people aren't anything when it comes to politics, they just vote for whoever they think the most capable or is going to do them the most good. I get tired of hearing how Liberals are more tolerant and more versatile and more up to date in their thinking and Conservatives are set in their ways and show little tolerance. How tolerant of a person was Trudeau? Was he any more tolerant than Joe Clark? Trudeau could barely tolerate western CAnada. Hey I vote Conservation one election and Liberal the next, what's that make me? A chameleon?

Sir Joe- You haven't mentioned the personal traits of an N.D.P.er- just wondering what they would be?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

SirJosephPorter, if you think that I flattered you, you obviously missed my post #229, in the "Earth Hour" thread, which quite succinctly and correctly describes the very essence of you, in an anecdotal way.

I am done with that thread, Yukon Jack; I haven’t looked in on it lately. As far as I am concerned, earth hour is over (and was a huge success); it is time to bury the thread. I don’t know what they are discussing over there, but I will look in on it.

And anyway, whether you meant it or not, I feel flattered when you compare me with Ventura (same as I assume you would feel flattered if I compared you to Bush or to Gingrich).

You are really grabbing at straws, when you declare a fellow poster a troll, and falsely claim that many others agree with your assessment of Cannuck.

I don’t want to keep harping on it (my attitude is, dog is barking, let it bark), but since you seem to defend him, he is a Troll. Just yesterday two posters (besides me) called him a Troll. I won’t mention any names; ask him if you are interested, he may tell you the names. Also you may wish to refer to the following thread:

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/steel-cage/81708-cannuck-what-you-wanted.html

Read it from beginning to end. Be careful in choosing your friends here, he may well turn on you in future. He is another Harley.

Anyway, enough said.

It might be a good idea for you to expand your budget and buy a mirror as well as an up-to-date dictionary.

Nothing wrong with my dictionary, Yukon Jack, it is in perfect order. It certainly knows the difference between ‘sparse’ and ‘parse’.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

To you, everyone on your right is a rabid extremist.

Many are, Yukon Jack, many are.

To you, everyone who who profess faith is a bible-thumpeing redneck.

Many are, Yukon Jack, many are.

To you, everyone who disagree with you is here only to pick a fight.

Not true, that holds only for one or two (like Cannuck, but then he is here to pick fight with everybody, he doesn’t discriminate).

To you, everyone who does not love the idea of SSM is a despicable homophobe.

No doubt some are.

To you, every newspaper or TV channel that does not support your view in a blind 100% sort of way is unreliable and untrustworthy.

Not true. Just recently we had discussion about Globe and Mail; there I told you that I consider Globe and Mail to be a highly reputable publication, even though I don’t agree with all the opinions expressed there.

To you, those who stand up for the rights of unborn human babies are anti-feminist luddites.

Not anti-feminist luddites (that doesn’t make sense anyway), but Bible thumpers. Get your jargon straight.

Have you ever given credit or concession to anyone opposing your views?

Many times. I have said before that one may oppose SSM and still not be a homophobe. Or that there are many Christians who are good, noble, compassionate people, who excel in helping others. I have even given plenty of examples (Mother Teresa, Jimmy Carter, Bishop Tutu, Rev. Martin Luther King etc.). This even though I don’t agree with their religious views.

I give credit where it is due.

Now, don't get me wrong, I admire your chutzpah in spinning words of others to your advantage.

Why, thank you.

 

[lone wolf]

Must we have yet another thread hijacked so Joey P can have another place for self congratulation. Word of wisdom? GET OVER YOURSELF! Pompous gets tired fast....

 

[SirJosephPorter]

How tolerant of a person was Trudeau? Was he any more tolerant than Joe Clark?

Trudeau was very tolerant. He gave us the Charter, which is really the last word in tolerance. It took a certain boldness of vision and plenty of courage to give us such a tolerant, revolutionary (for those times) document such as the Charter. It took plenty of statesmanship, diplomacy and people management skills to get all the provinces approve it (except Quebec, of course).

Trudeau was one of the most tolerant PM ever. That is why he will be fondly remembered for a long time to come (at least in Ontario and Quebec.)

As to Clark, he was tolerant as well. I have said it before; he was a good man but lousy politician. But he certainly was a progressive (unfortunately very few of them are left in Conservative party, these days it is dominated by Alberta Reform and Alliance faction).

He changed his views on homosexuality as time went on, his views evolved with time, like those of a liberal (views of a true conservative are frozen in time). He voted for gay marriage when it was brought to the Parliament.

So yes, both Trudeau and Clark were tolerant men.

Hey I vote Conservation one election and Liberal the next, what's that make me? A chameleon?

That makes you middle of the road, undecided voter.

 

[YukonJack]

"(same as I assume you would feel flattered if I compared you to Bush or to Gingrich)."

SirJosephPorter, I know that you are familiar with the danger of using the word ASS-U-ME .

I aquiesce, your knowledge of the English Language is, indeed exquisite. And you - by your own admission - reinforce it with Spell Check, just to be sure. However, no dictionary of either older or more recent vintage would define 'order' and 'challenge' synonyms, as you do. And then you have the nerve to ridicule my spelling error of 'sparse/parse'.

I do NOT defend Cannuck or all his posts. But I DO agree with his post which pointed out the disrepencies and the utter lack of logic in your response to my post and the Klavan article.

You declared the fact that the Globe and Mail referred to Earth Hour as 'trick', 'sham' and 'flimflammery' as no big deal. Yet you make a big deal of my parse/sparse faux pas as a big deal. Should consider giving lessons on how to take cheap shots.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Sir Joe- You haven't mentioned the personal traits of an N.D.P.er- just wondering what they would be?

That is easy, JLM. Liberal Party is NDP with brains. Or, NDP is Liberal Party without brains.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

However, no dictionary of either older or more recent vintage would define 'order' and 'challenge' synonyms, as you do.

That is a matter of opinion, Yukon Jack. What you may consider ‘challenge’, I may consider ‘order’. It is your opinion against mine, there no way to settle this argument.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

And then you have the nerve to ridicule my spelling error of 'sparse/parse'.

You were the first to challenge my English. I responded in kind.

 

[YukonJack]

"SirJosephPorter, if you think that I flattered you, you obviously missed my post #229, in the "Earth Hour" thread, which quite succinctly and correctly describes the very essence of you, in an anecdotal way.

I am done with that thread, Yukon Jack; I haven’t looked in on it lately. As far as I am concerned, earth hour is over (and was a huge success); it is time to bury the thread. I don’t know what there are discussing over there, but I will look in on it."

SirJosephPorter, your post #212 proves without a doubt that you are Jesse Ventura's twin brother, separated at birth. "Many are..", "Some are..." etc.

Ventura would be proud of you.

"Now, don't get me wrong, I admire your chutzpah in spinning words of others to your advantage.

Why, thank you."

Congratulations for being proud to be phoney.

 

[YukonJack]

"That is easy, JLM. Liberal Party is NDP with brains. Or, NDP is Liberal Party without brains."

So said SirJosephPorter.

Winston Churchill said it even better: "Those under 30 years of age who are not liberals have no heart. Those over 30 years of age who are liberals haven't got a brain".