What Americans really think.
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'Quite right, EagleSmack, and Democrats aren’t complaining, it is the rich Republicans who are whining'.
However, at the present time it is the Democrats who write the law.
Maybe so, Yukon Jack, but the fact still is that it is the rich Republicans who are whining about taxes for the rich, the rich Democrats (and there are probably as mane as rich Republicans) are willing to pay their share.
'Those earning more than 200,000 $ per year should be glad of their good fortune.'
Of course, hard work, talent, ambition, education and frugality (just to name a few of the reasons the "RICH" got rich) had nothing to do with it.
It was the result of hard work, talent, ambition, frugality AND good fortune. Without good fortune, they never would have made it. Good fortune is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for becoming rich.
SirJosephPorter repeatedly and often bragged about his wise investments and his own personal wealth. Was that all the result of just "good fortune"?
Again my previous comment applies. In addition to hard work, diligence, talent, ambition etc., I also needed good luck , I had to be in the right place at the right time. I took advantage of opportunities as they arose, but if there had not been any opportunities, I would be nowhere.
Indeed, without good fortune, it is very difficult to get ahead in life. I was fortunate for being born in Canada. If I had been born to poor parents in say, in North Korea, Zimbabwe, or in Myanmar, no amount of hard work, talent etc. would have made me a rich, well to do person.
So anybody who claims that luck had nothing to do with what they have achieved in life is lying through his teeth.
However, at the present time it is the Democrats who write the law.
Maybe so, Yukon Jack, but the fact still is that it is the rich Republicans who are whining about taxes for the rich, the rich Democrats (and there are probably as mane as rich Republicans) are willing to pay their share.
'Those earning more than 200,000 $ per year should be glad of their good fortune.'
Of course, hard work, talent, ambition, education and frugality (just to name a few of the reasons the "RICH" got rich) had nothing to do with it.
It was the result of hard work, talent, ambition, frugality AND good fortune. Without good fortune, they never would have made it. Good fortune is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for becoming rich.
SirJosephPorter repeatedly and often bragged about his wise investments and his own personal wealth. Was that all the result of just "good fortune"?
Again my previous comment applies. In addition to hard work, diligence, talent, ambition etc., I also needed good luck , I had to be in the right place at the right time. I took advantage of opportunities as they arose, but if there had not been any opportunities, I would be nowhere.
Indeed, without good fortune, it is very difficult to get ahead in life. I was fortunate for being born in Canada. If I had been born to poor parents in say, in North Korea, Zimbabwe, or in Myanmar, no amount of hard work, talent etc. would have made me a rich, well to do person.
So anybody who claims that luck had nothing to do with what they have achieved in life is lying through his teeth.
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Not being a phoney, teleprompter supported snake oil salesman, orator is "disastrous'? Does substance matter any more or is just teleprompter style?
Yukon Jack, you of the far right and the right seem to be fascinated by Obama’s teleprompter. Just what is wrong with the teleprompter? I assume Obama has his hands full all day, I wouldn’t expect him to remember the speech. A teleprompter is a big help, I see nothing wrong with teleprompter.
I don’t know if Bush used a teleprompter or not, but he was famous for his misquotes (nucular, misunderestimated etc.). My son had a Bush calendar, for 365 days, it showed 365 gaffs by Bush.
Any message that Obama wants to give is enhanced by his speaking style (teleprompter or no). Any message Bush had to give out was drowned out by his gaffs.
In any debate where Obama would not have the teleprompter (the words on which were written by people smarter than this inexperienced, immature and pretentious nobody) Jindahl would make mincemeat out of Obama both in style AND in substance.
That is your opinion. I assume there was no teleprompter during the McCain – Obama debates. Obama won all three debates, according to the opinion polls. I have heard Jindahl speak, I have heard Obama speak. I think Obama will make mincemeat out of Jindahl. Jindahl comes across to me as a policy wonk, not an accomplished orator.
The only one who will need a major rebuilding will be Obama by about June of this Summer.
It all depends upon the economy. If the bleeding has stopped by summer (I don’t think people expect things to turn around by summer), Obama will continue to be popular.
Yukon Jack, you of the far right and the right seem to be fascinated by Obama’s teleprompter. Just what is wrong with the teleprompter? I assume Obama has his hands full all day, I wouldn’t expect him to remember the speech. A teleprompter is a big help, I see nothing wrong with teleprompter.
I don’t know if Bush used a teleprompter or not, but he was famous for his misquotes (nucular, misunderestimated etc.). My son had a Bush calendar, for 365 days, it showed 365 gaffs by Bush.
Any message that Obama wants to give is enhanced by his speaking style (teleprompter or no). Any message Bush had to give out was drowned out by his gaffs.
In any debate where Obama would not have the teleprompter (the words on which were written by people smarter than this inexperienced, immature and pretentious nobody) Jindahl would make mincemeat out of Obama both in style AND in substance.
That is your opinion. I assume there was no teleprompter during the McCain – Obama debates. Obama won all three debates, according to the opinion polls. I have heard Jindahl speak, I have heard Obama speak. I think Obama will make mincemeat out of Jindahl. Jindahl comes across to me as a policy wonk, not an accomplished orator.
The only one who will need a major rebuilding will be Obama by about June of this Summer.
It all depends upon the economy. If the bleeding has stopped by summer (I don’t think people expect things to turn around by summer), Obama will continue to be popular.
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As a person who stood up and spoke to the public several times in my life, I never needed a teleprompter. When you have something of value that resides in your heart you need no teleprompter. Lincoln never needed one. FDR sat by his fireplace without a teleprompter. Even the "amiable dunce" never needed a teleprompter. Only empty suits do. A misquote without a telepromter is worth many times of that with a teleprompter that was written by someone far smarter than the one who actually voices those half-assed thoughts. Obviously, you never listened to Obama (or you chose to ignore) how he stumbled, not only sentence to sentence, but word to word, humming a hawwing worse than a first-grader.
The public opinion about Obama is already sinking like a rock. (Fitting for a ROCK star). Like I said, by June his fortunes will be about the same as those of the stock market he managed to sink to.
Regarding your low opinion of Bobby Jindahl, it is plain to see that you never saw him compared to Democrat Governor (you know that woman who could not tell her fingers from her toes) or the Chocolate Mayor, who would be happy to kill all vanilla in New New Orleans. You know, the same incompetant excuse for being human, who never called hundreds of school busses for evacuation of the people who needed help. Blaming Bush and the REpublicans was SOOOOOOO much easier. And of course, the politically correct idiots of the Left bought the garbage, hook line and sinker.
As a person who stood up and spoke to the public several times in my life, I never needed a teleprompter. When you have something of value that resides in your heart you need no teleprompter. Lincoln never needed one. FDR sat by his fireplace without a teleprompter. Even the "amiable dunce" never needed a teleprompter. Only empty suits do. A misquote without a telepromter is worth many times of that with a teleprompter that was written by someone far smarter than the one who actually voices those half-assed thoughts. Obviously, you never listened to Obama (or you chose to ignore) how he stumbled, not only sentence to sentence, but word to word, humming a hawwing worse than a first-grader.
The public opinion about Obama is already sinking like a rock. (Fitting for a ROCK star). Like I said, by June his fortunes will be about the same as those of the stock market he managed to sink to.
Regarding your low opinion of Bobby Jindahl, it is plain to see that you never saw him compared to Democrat Governor (you know that woman who could not tell her fingers from her toes) or the Chocolate Mayor, who would be happy to kill all vanilla in New New Orleans. You know, the same incompetant excuse for being human, who never called hundreds of school busses for evacuation of the people who needed help. Blaming Bush and the REpublicans was SOOOOOOO much easier. And of course, the politically correct idiots of the Left bought the garbage, hook line and sinker.
The public opinion about Obama is already sinking like a rock. (Fitting for a ROCK star)..
Yukon Jack, the latest opinion poll puts his approval rating in low 60s, hardly anything to be ashamed of. If that is your definition of falling like a rock, how did you describe Bush’s popularity rating of low 30s (or did you describe that as rising like a rocket)?
Like I said, by June his fortunes will be about the same as those of the stock market he managed to sink to
That is wishful thinking on your part. Like your hero drug addict (and three times divorced) Limbaugh, there is nothing you would like more than to see Obama fail and USA slide into a depression. Then presumably the far right wing of the Republican party would take over and rescue USA, fix everything (by brining in a Fundamentalist theocracy, of course).
Personally, I don’t know what Obama’s approval rating will be in June, I don’t have a crystal ball like you (and your hero, Limbaugh) do. However, I do know that if Obama fails, USA (and the rest of the world) is in for some very rough times indeed.
Currently the economic situation is dire. If Obama succeeds (as I hope), the economy will recover by next year. If Obama fails (as you hope), the world would slide into a depression come next year.
I for one, hope Obama succeeds.
Yukon Jack, the latest opinion poll puts his approval rating in low 60s, hardly anything to be ashamed of. If that is your definition of falling like a rock, how did you describe Bush’s popularity rating of low 30s (or did you describe that as rising like a rocket)?
Like I said, by June his fortunes will be about the same as those of the stock market he managed to sink to
That is wishful thinking on your part. Like your hero drug addict (and three times divorced) Limbaugh, there is nothing you would like more than to see Obama fail and USA slide into a depression. Then presumably the far right wing of the Republican party would take over and rescue USA, fix everything (by brining in a Fundamentalist theocracy, of course).
Personally, I don’t know what Obama’s approval rating will be in June, I don’t have a crystal ball like you (and your hero, Limbaugh) do. However, I do know that if Obama fails, USA (and the rest of the world) is in for some very rough times indeed.
Currently the economic situation is dire. If Obama succeeds (as I hope), the economy will recover by next year. If Obama fails (as you hope), the world would slide into a depression come next year.
I for one, hope Obama succeeds.
Regarding your low opinion of Bobby Jindahl, it is plain to see that you never saw him compared to Democrat Governor (you know that woman who could not tell her fingers from her toes) or the Chocolate Mayor, who would be happy to kill all vanilla in New New Orleans.
Yukon Jack, Jindahl doesn’t have to compare himself with Democrat governor or anybody else, he has to compare himself with Obama if he wants to run in 2012. How he compares with anybody else is irrelevant. Compared to Obama, he was a miserable failure that day. He has a long way to go before he will be ready for 2012.
Blaming Bush and the Republicans was SOOOOOOO much easier. And of course, the politically correct idiots of the Left bought the garbage, hook line and sinker.
So I assume you think that a majority of Americans belong to the left (if so, that is a depressing news for the far right indeed), since a majority of Americans blame Bush for the Katrina disaster (or rather, for its aftermath).
Yukon Jack, Jindahl doesn’t have to compare himself with Democrat governor or anybody else, he has to compare himself with Obama if he wants to run in 2012. How he compares with anybody else is irrelevant. Compared to Obama, he was a miserable failure that day. He has a long way to go before he will be ready for 2012.
Blaming Bush and the Republicans was SOOOOOOO much easier. And of course, the politically correct idiots of the Left bought the garbage, hook line and sinker.
So I assume you think that a majority of Americans belong to the left (if so, that is a depressing news for the far right indeed), since a majority of Americans blame Bush for the Katrina disaster (or rather, for its aftermath).
Walter, Rasmussen is hardly an independent polling company; it is the darling of the right and the far right. Thus far right websites such as Townhall gleefully quote the Rasmussen polls.
During election campaign, Rasmussen and Zogby consistently depicted the race as very close, many times a statistical dead heat. Their polls of the battleground states such as Ohio and Florida mostly used to come out favorable to McCain.
So I wouldn’t trust anything I see on Rasmussen. Obama’s favorability rating may well be down, I don’t know (and I don’t much care). However, I wouldn’t take Rasmussen’s (or Zogby’s) word for it.
During election campaign, Rasmussen and Zogby consistently depicted the race as very close, many times a statistical dead heat. Their polls of the battleground states such as Ohio and Florida mostly used to come out favorable to McCain.
So I wouldn’t trust anything I see on Rasmussen. Obama’s favorability rating may well be down, I don’t know (and I don’t much care). However, I wouldn’t take Rasmussen’s (or Zogby’s) word for it.
Why is it that most things posted that do not fit into your beliefs, thought processes etc. always have to come from some far right radical group. We do have differing opinions in this world and there all not from Holy Rollers or Right wing organizations. Obama is still popular, but the love affair is not what it used to be. Just like a real marriage reality has set in and there will be no big giveaway of money like some thought.
"Yukon Jack, Jindahl doesn’t have to compare himself with Democrat governor or anybody else, he has to compare himself with Obama if he wants to run in 2012. How he compares with anybody else is irrelevant. Compared to Obama, he was a miserable failure that day. He has a long way to go before he will be ready for 2012."
Jindahl was/is a relatively unknown, as was Obama before the thought to run for the Presidency. Big deal he blew a speech. That was not a career ending speech. The only mistake he made was having a bad speech writer. Whether Jindahl is or is not the next Presidential candidate for the republican party he is new and another man of color who has made it into consideration. If he wants it, he will be ready in 2012.
"Yukon Jack, Jindahl doesn’t have to compare himself with Democrat governor or anybody else, he has to compare himself with Obama if he wants to run in 2012. How he compares with anybody else is irrelevant. Compared to Obama, he was a miserable failure that day. He has a long way to go before he will be ready for 2012."
Jindahl was/is a relatively unknown, as was Obama before the thought to run for the Presidency. Big deal he blew a speech. That was not a career ending speech. The only mistake he made was having a bad speech writer. Whether Jindahl is or is not the next Presidential candidate for the republican party he is new and another man of color who has made it into consideration. If he wants it, he will be ready in 2012.
Because he believes he is refuting it by questioning the source and this is a typical tactic when one can not actually refute a statement. He is wrong of course. If a known liar says the sky is blue, does that mean the sky is not blue? In SJP's world it usually does.
It is very legitimate to question a source if the source is unreliable. One finds so much rubbish on internet these days, I don’t believe anything that doesn’t come from a reliable source such as CNN, BBC, CBC, Globe and Mail etc.
As to sky being blue, I wouldn’t believe it if a far left or a far right website tells me that, I will need an independent confirmation.
It is always a healthy attitude to be skeptical of the source; unless the source is a reputable and well established one.
Obama is still popular, but the love affair is not what it used to be. Just like a real marriage reality has set in and there will be no big giveaway of money like some thought.
That may be true ironsides, I don’t know. But what I am saying is that Rasmussen saying it does not make it so, Rasmussen is hardly an unbiased source. Show me the same thing by Gallop poll or similar and I will believe it. Similarly if it is reported on CNN, I will believe it, if reported on FOX, I won’t.
As I said, one has to be careful of the source.
That may be true ironsides, I don’t know. But what I am saying is that Rasmussen saying it does not make it so, Rasmussen is hardly an unbiased source. Show me the same thing by Gallop poll or similar and I will believe it. Similarly if it is reported on CNN, I will believe it, if reported on FOX, I won’t.
As I said, one has to be careful of the source.
If a known liar says the sky is blue, does that mean the sky is not blue? In SJP's world it usually does.
In my world, we just don’t know. A known liar saying that sky is blue means nothing; sky could be of any color, blue, red white whatever.
If a reputable, respectable source says that sky is blue then I believe it.
In my world, we just don’t know. A known liar saying that sky is blue means nothing; sky could be of any color, blue, red white whatever.
If a reputable, respectable source says that sky is blue then I believe it.
Yep, CNN is pretty reliable, people like Lou Dobbs, Christine Romans and Jack Cafferty tend to tell it like it is.
No pole or reprort makes anything true. just how you interrupt it makes it true or not to yourself.
"If a reputable, respectable source says that sky is blue then I believe it."
might not be.
Yup, I have to admit, Obama and his family are a class act. Here is what we have to deal with for the next few years.
The Gift exchange was an insult
The etiquette observed by diplomats and heads of state when visiting foreign countries is that they bring gifts to their host and hostess. This is reciprocated by the hosts when their guests leave. So when the prime minister of England, Gordon Brown, and his wife, Sarah, came here to visit, they presented President Obama with a specially made gift — a pen holder made from the wood of the 19th century British warship, HMS President, whose sister ship, HMS Resolute, provided the wood for the desk in the Oval Office. President Obama was also given a complete set of Winston Churchill's books. Sarah Brown then gave first lady Michelle Obama dresses for her daughters that were especially made by the leading children's designer in London, plus books by English authors.
These gifts are given to show the high esteem England has for our country. In return, President Obama gave the prime minister 25 DVDs of American movie classics (which cannot be used on British DVD players) and first lady Obama gave the prime minister's wife two toy models of Marine One, the president's helicopter, for her two sons. This disgraceful and dishonorable behavior by President and Mrs. Obama to a country that is our greatest ally and most sincere friend will be long remembered by England. Shame on you, President Obama and Michelle Obama, for your thoughtlessness and disrespect in choosing such cheap and trivial gifts for the prime minister of England.
The Gift exchange was an insult
The etiquette observed by diplomats and heads of state when visiting foreign countries is that they bring gifts to their host and hostess. This is reciprocated by the hosts when their guests leave. So when the prime minister of England, Gordon Brown, and his wife, Sarah, came here to visit, they presented President Obama with a specially made gift — a pen holder made from the wood of the 19th century British warship, HMS President, whose sister ship, HMS Resolute, provided the wood for the desk in the Oval Office. President Obama was also given a complete set of Winston Churchill's books. Sarah Brown then gave first lady Michelle Obama dresses for her daughters that were especially made by the leading children's designer in London, plus books by English authors.
These gifts are given to show the high esteem England has for our country. In return, President Obama gave the prime minister 25 DVDs of American movie classics (which cannot be used on British DVD players) and first lady Obama gave the prime minister's wife two toy models of Marine One, the president's helicopter, for her two sons. This disgraceful and dishonorable behavior by President and Mrs. Obama to a country that is our greatest ally and most sincere friend will be long remembered by England. Shame on you, President Obama and Michelle Obama, for your thoughtlessness and disrespect in choosing such cheap and trivial gifts for the prime minister of England.