What about Liechtenstein? Why aren't the media covering it?

[Bar Sinister]

That claim gets tossed around a lot, but always without any scriptural evidence whatsoever. Jesus NEVER advocated or commanded that wealth be TAKEN AWAY from one group of people and given to another. You can quote whatever he said regarding the poor, because he plainly advocated CHARITY, not socialism.

And I really got you with the parable of the talents told by Jesus. In that parable Jesus takes away the single talent from the poor man and gave it to the rich man who had far more talents to begin with! At the end of the parable, Jesus tells the lazy poor man to go to hell for his failure to invest. Sound like socialism? Read it for yourself, (Matt 25:14-30) and I'm curious how you would explain His words away, because the parable of the talents DESTROYS any claim that Jesus, (or Christianity) is socialist.



LOVE THIS QUESTION. I have never been asked this and I'm thrilled to give an answer! (deep subject, so I'll just stick to a couple of points to keep it short)

How much time have you spent pondering, discussing with friends, or reading the bible to try to understand God's character? God/theology/religion has probably been my favorite subject since my youth and I've spent thousands of hours on the subject.

While espousing to be a Christian, right-wing conservative beliefs based on logic:

Without even picking up the bible yet, common sense says that if God is the Author of life, no human has the right to take that God-given life away from an innocent person. You can say whatever you like about a woman's so called "right to choose" but the fact remains that you will NEVER be able to demonstrate GUILT on the part of an unborn child.

Faith in God aka "fear of the Lord" results in one to oppose abortion.

While espousing to be a Christian, right wing conservative beliefs based on God's Word:

If the bible is God's revealed Word to us, then "gay marriage" and homosexual behavior is sinful according to God. Jesus IDENTIFIED marriage as between one man and one woman, He said to uphold the OT commandments that do condemn homosexuality, and warned us about the sinful condition of Sodom and Gomorrah (whose presenting sin was homosexuality).

All biblical evidence says homosexual behavior (and more) is sin against God.

Right wing conservative beliefs/labels decided by societal norms:

If you oppose abortion and gay marriage, most leftists are going to label you not only conservative but probably "far right". Couple this with the observation that GENERALLY SPEAKING the anti-God crowd falls on the left, support things like abortion and gay marriage, and viola, you find yourself a conservative Christian.

For the reasons that, to pretend God is okay with these things is called IDOLATRY, you're off worshiping some other "god", and not the real one. Further, it's foolish to "conform" God, or the truth, to your own standard of morality, or to just follow the crowd's standard. God sets the standard, so it's obviously more wise to renew your thinking to his thinking. (Romans 12:2)

There ya go, I tried to keep it short. I'm giving you a green thumb for your post, not because I agree with what you said, but because you asked an excellent, deep, and what I perceive to be a sincere question, one I enjoyed answering. Cheers!

So what you are basically saying is that you have twisted the gospels to suit your own right wing bias. In spite of your use of the word "logic" in your post, there is very little logical about it; just a blind religious fantacism being used to justify discrimination, hatred, and greed.

 

[PoliticalNick]

That claim gets tossed around a lot, but always without any scriptural evidence whatsoever. Jesus NEVER advocated or commanded that wealth be TAKEN AWAY from one group of people and given to another. You can quote whatever he said regarding the poor, because he plainly advocated CHARITY, not socialism.

And I really got you with the parable of the talents told by Jesus. In that parable Jesus takes away the single talent from the poor man and gave it to the rich man who had far more talents to begin with! At the end of the parable, Jesus tells the lazy poor man to go to hell for his failure to invest. Sound like socialism? Read it for yourself, (Matt 25:14-30) and I'm curious how you would explain His words away, because the parable of the talents DESTROYS any claim that Jesus, (or Christianity) is socialist.




LOVE THIS QUESTION. I have never been asked this and I'm thrilled to give an answer! (deep subject, so I'll just stick to a couple of points to keep it short)

How much time have you spent pondering, discussing with friends, or reading the bible to try to understand God's character? God/theology/religion has probably been my favorite subject since my youth and I've spent thousands of hours on the subject.

While espousing to be a Christian, right-wing conservative beliefs based on logic:

Without even picking up the bible yet, common sense says that if God is the Author of life, no human has the right to take that God-given life away from an innocent person. You can say whatever you like about a woman's so called "right to choose" but the fact remains that you will NEVER be able to demonstrate GUILT on the part of an unborn child.

Faith in God aka "fear of the Lord" results in one to oppose abortion.

While espousing to be a Christian, right wing conservative beliefs based on God's Word:

If the bible is God's revealed Word to us, then "gay marriage" and homosexual behavior is sinful according to God. Jesus IDENTIFIED marriage as between one man and one woman, He said to uphold the OT commandments that do condemn homosexuality, and warned us about the sinful condition of Sodom and Gomorrah (whose presenting sin was homosexuality).

All biblical evidence says homosexual behavior (and more) is sin against God.

Right wing conservative beliefs/labels decided by societal norms:

If you oppose abortion and gay marriage, most leftists are going to label you not only conservative but probably "far right". Couple this with the observation that GENERALLY SPEAKING the anti-God crowd falls on the left, support things like abortion and gay marriage, and viola, you find yourself a conservative Christian.

For the reasons that, to pretend God is okay with these things is called IDOLATRY, you're off worshiping some other "god", and not the real one. Further, it's foolish to "conform" God, or the truth, to your own standard of morality, or to just follow the crowd's standard. God sets the standard, so it's obviously more wise to renew your thinking to his thinking. (Romans 12:2)

There ya go, I tried to keep it short. I'm giving you a green thumb for your post, not because I agree with what you said, but because you asked an excellent, deep, and what I perceive to be a sincere question, one I enjoyed answering. Cheers!

So all I have to ask now is why do you quote the words of men to be the will of god. God did not write the bible, it was written (and rewritten numerous times) by men. Unfortunately unless you have actually had god come before you and say these are the ideals you should live by you are simply following the ideals of men, specifically men with an agenda to establish a church and have followers.

I give you a greenie for your succinct answers, not because I buy what you're selling.

 

[petros]

And I really got you with the parable of the talents told by Jesus. In that parable Jesus takes away the single talent from the poor man and gave it to the rich man who had far more talents to begin with! At the end of the parable, Jesus tells the lazy poor man to go to hell for his failure to invest. Sound like socialism? Read it for yourself, (Matt 25:14-30) and I'm curious how you would explain His words away, because the parable of the talents DESTROYS any claim that Jesus, (or Christianity) is socialist.

The "gold in the bags" wasn't gold.

It was respect, love. friendship, self respect, faith, trust, compassion, the holy spirit and so forth.

If you bury those things in the ground instead of utilizing them and spreading them around and having them grow you have failed in what God has entrusted you with.

Same goes for the render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's line.

What Jesus is saying is money means nothing to him, give that to Caesar all (because it is Caesar's money and it has his picture on it to prove it) you want but don't you dare give your give your heart, mind and soul to Caesar (politics) because those belong to God.

When I see you get wound up in politics giving your heart, mind and soul to Caesar I fear for you young man. I really do.

I don't know who is teaching you this stuff but they really need to give their head a shake and stop worshipping the god of this earth, this world. The god who can provide you with real sacks of gold, land, fame, and all the material things of this earth, this world is not someone you want to be duped by.