Well, the Bible does condone slavery......

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This must have been a offering of Christian Charity someone in authority trying to
bend the rules to suit themselves.
As for Stalin yes he supposedly banned the concept of religion however if you watch
world at war you will see Russians filing into churches the west said no longer existed.
I think they somewhat suppressed religion but never really banned it.
Today its a leading organization in the modern post communist era and it is suppressing
those who don't succumb to the views of the church, The church is Putin's new tool to
enforce behavior.
And yes the Bible condoned slavery and ethnic cleansing and a few other things.
That book has a lot of stuff in it that would raise eyebrows if more people read it
 

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Funny how the people who changed our history good or bad often started
out in a way different world. The problem is with ancient texts they are not
about the future they are about the past and they were dealing with life as it
was. People who completely deny the Bible don't realize they are leaving out
so much history
 

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Idleness killed more people than slavery ever did!

This must have been a offering of Christian Charity someone in authority trying to
bend the rules to suit themselves.
As for Stalin yes he supposedly banned the concept of religion however if you watch
world at war you will see Russians filing into churches the west said no longer existed.
I think they somewhat suppressed religion but never really banned it.
Today its a leading organization in the modern post communist era and it is suppressing
those who don't succumb to the views of the church, The church is Putin's new tool to
enforce behavior.
And yes the Bible condoned slavery and ethnic cleansing and a few other things.
That book has a lot of stuff in it that would raise eyebrows if more people read it


You have to remember the Bible is just a story book full of metaphors, allegory etc. and was written mainly by a bunch of peasants- people who actually thought the world is flat, so the credibility level is pretty low.
 

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True he was a Christian seminarian. Pol Pot was a Buddhist but attended Catholic school in his early youth.
Let's ask an expert on how that would have gone? Cliffy, got some insight into if the kids were closer to being slaves than students?

A slave in the OT had rules and regulations and once a slave, always a slave always a slave was a 1/100 thing and becoming a slave was as easy as taking a loan or a job as it involved your word that something would be done in exchange for payment before the tasks began rather than being paid after the fact.

Wouldn't the topic have to have some sort of base for what a slave is defined as after the exodus until the cross and then from the cross until the return as the conditions laid out were slightly different in some areas.

I see the NT as being different as the food laws (and such) are changed and falling into sin was easier than in the OT. Since there are rules you agree to follow those ones rather than God agreeing to follow your rules. There is a list of rewards and there is a list of punishments so if you are a follower seeking the rewards that would seem to make you a happy slave and the 'burdens' of this world is the price you pay for being alive at all. Should punishment be due that is taken care of first and since it has to be followed by something it has a limited time but there is no end to the reward phase. It would be like being someplace where the 'bad news' is covered first and then the 'good news' is covered, ....... end of story.

Idleness killed more people than slavery ever did!

You have to remember the Bible is just a story book full of metaphors, allegory etc. and was written mainly by a bunch of peasants- people who actually thought the world is flat, so the credibility level is pretty low.
That was the whole world until only a few 100 years ago.
Idleness is caused by the rich holding the money in their pockets instead of throwing it on the ground for the 'idle people' to pick up'. Instead of being able to 'watch' what they did when they had money do you thing the idle decided to remain idle, behind locked doors which is what a banker is when he has more than two coins in his own pockets.

The problem is with ancient texts they are not
about the future
they are about the past and they were dealing with life as it
was.
Really, this is the start, the whole list would be more than anybody should need to see that your theory is incorrect. Perhaps you should explore what is in it before you give claim to knowing what it doesn't cover, in some detail for some things.

De:30:1-3:
And it shall come to pass,
when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse,
which I have set before thee,
and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations,
whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
And shalt return unto the LORD thy God,
and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day,
thou and thy children,
with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity,
and have compassion upon thee,
and will return and gather thee from all the nations,
whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.

Am:8:9:
And it shall come to pass in that day,
saith the Lord GOD,
that I will cause the sun to go down at noon,
and I will darken the earth in the clear day:
 

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Cap'n Morgan did. And he even threw in "apparently" to make it seem like it's something he didn't just make up in his own head.

U mad bro?

Maybe this will help



enough quotes? Or do you need the entire conversation requoted for you?

Apparently