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with the tight, close hard checking by both teams, I'm not surprised kopitar and others, both teams, don't have time to do much, they can't blow by anyone unless they are given the puck way in the open somewhere,
and unless someone makes a boo boo, as happened with the one overtime goal, no player has their way with
the puck.
And also, when this series is over check back with each team to find out how many players are now playing
injured, as it is obvious to me that dustin brown is pretty banged up, as well as kovalchuk, he was injured
against rangers, had to sit a game, and i'm sure that problem is still there.
eg. kesler last year was non existent once he was injured, and they don't mention anything at this point,
just play thru it, then surgery or whatever in the off season.
quick has always had a habit of wandering around, which he reigned in during this playoffs, untill recently,
so he must get back to those great games he played for at least 99% of this series.
If l.a. had of scored on some of those goal post hits, this thing would have been over by now, maybe tonight
those posts will be 'air'.
GO L.A. GO
I thought both Dustin Brown and Drew Doughty were more deserving of the Conn Smythe. Quick didn't have much work in the playoffs except for a few games with Vancouver. How many shots did he face from New Jersey? Were there as much as 15 shots tonight?
Well I guess that's that. Kudos to Darryl Sutter and crew! The one sour note was Bettman presenting the Cup!
Congratulations to the 2012 Stanley Cup Champion LA Kings. Nice to see the Cup go out on a such a convincing win by the Kings.
I figured that Ilya was playing with an injury talloola - it was the only thing that could account for his collapse in this series - though by no means did he lose it by himself. The Devils had a great run this year and have much to be proud of though that is cold comfort as they watch the Kings hoist the Cup.
Canada should see its fair share of the Cup in the coming year and Saskatchewan will see it visit at least twice.
Already looking forward to next year and seeing what changes the Pens will come up with. Sidney's contract is much in the news lately too.
In the meantime, the CFL preseason starts on Wednesday. Go Riders, Go!
I figured that Ilya was playing with an injury talloola - it was the only thing that could account for his collapse in this series - though by no means did he lose it by himself. The Devils had a great run this year and have much to be proud of though that is cold comfort as they watch the Kings hoist the Cup.
Canada should see its fair share of the Cup in the coming year and Saskatchewan will see it visit at least twice.
Already looking forward to next year and seeing what changes the Pens will come up with. Sidney's contract is much in the news lately too.
In the meantime, the CFL preseason starts on Wednesday. Go Riders, Go!
congrats to l.a. kings, a great run, very convincing, I watched the whole celebration, all the interviews,
saw the kids the wives the moms and dads, it was great.
darryl sutter was the key to the kings winning the cup, he put a new identity on the team, took drew
doughty out behind the barn and gave him a shake, and they never looked back, and by the time the canucks
met them they were in a full gallop and canucks were just starting to warm up, so there was no time
for vancouver to get it together, l.a. ran right over them and never looked back.
I wouldn't mind driving up to port McNeil to see willie mitchell and the stanley cup during the summer,
might just do that.
Both goalies played great, although brodeur had a few goal posts that helped him
out, and tonight he wasn't outstanding, just good.
I agree with jonathan quick being the con smythe winner, he is the glue that held
the l.a. kings together, and the team supported him well too, that is what makes
a winner, their game was deep from goaltending out, and so was new jersey, two
deserving teams battling it out for the cup.
OK, now we can let this go and move on, and the entry draft is less than 2 weeks away, I will be sitting
there for the duration of the day, recording all of the first picks by everyone, its fun.
and there will probably be some wheeling and dealing during the draft as well.
thanks for sharing the hockey season with me, and please come back and do it again next season.
saw the kids the wives the moms and dads, it was great.
darryl sutter was the key to the kings winning the cup, he put a new identity on the team, took drew
doughty out behind the barn and gave him a shake, and they never looked back, and by the time the canucks
met them they were in a full gallop and canucks were just starting to warm up, so there was no time
for vancouver to get it together, l.a. ran right over them and never looked back.
I wouldn't mind driving up to port McNeil to see willie mitchell and the stanley cup during the summer,
might just do that.
Both goalies played great, although brodeur had a few goal posts that helped him
out, and tonight he wasn't outstanding, just good.
I agree with jonathan quick being the con smythe winner, he is the glue that held
the l.a. kings together, and the team supported him well too, that is what makes
a winner, their game was deep from goaltending out, and so was new jersey, two
deserving teams battling it out for the cup.
OK, now we can let this go and move on, and the entry draft is less than 2 weeks away, I will be sitting
there for the duration of the day, recording all of the first picks by everyone, its fun.
and there will probably be some wheeling and dealing during the draft as well.
thanks for sharing the hockey season with me, and please come back and do it again next season.
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the 5 minute major penalty really killed them. I wonder if they will trade him as punishment?
on a sour note, there may not be a next season (lockout).
a sign of the apocalypse?
on a sour note, there may not be a next season (lockout).
a sign of the apocalypse?
the 5 minute major penalty really killed them. I wonder if they will trade him as punishment?
on a sour note, there may not be a next season (lockout).
a sign of the apocalypse?
The penalty didn't kill them, spam.............the fact that LA scored three goals during it was a deciding factor. Sure the hit on Gionta should've been called thus the Bernier hit might not have occurred - but the former wasn't and the latter did and thus goes history. I doubt Bernier will be traded as he has been a good player for the team and it was not like him to deliver such a nasty hit. He no more deserves scorn then Marten does. Let's face it, LA was out to make history last night and they did so in fine form.
As far as any lock-out, will wait to see what happens before I get my dander up. ;-)
Would love to spam............however as I am still stuck on dial-up here in the boonies, you would be waiting till Christmas for a reply about it..........sorry.
I came across this article while reading the Bleacher Report today. Would be interested to hear what other more informed hockey fans here have to say about possible changes. Comments anyone???
Rules changes the NHL should be looking at
By PJ Sapienza – June 13, 2012-06-13
NHL: Rule Changes the League Should Look Make | Bleacher Report
Eliminating offsides
Plain and simple, get rid of it. Many fans and non-fans of hockey complain about the lack of scoring. Opening up the entire ice at all times would greatly increase the scoring opportunities. Basketball is much more popular than hockey and the fast break is one of the more exciting plays in that game. Adding that element to hockey would be great for fans.
Also, with the league pressing for more player safety, opening up the middle of the ice should make it safer for the players. Currently the center of the ice tends to get clogged up. Many players get inured with bone-jarring hits in that area. Often the player is not looking or had just passed the puck in order to keep the team onsides.
Without offsides the ice would open up. Defenses would not be able to clog up the ice as much. The chances of clean fast breaks or odd man rushes would greatly increase. This means, at minimum, more scoring chances and likely more goals scored.
Let goalies play the puck
Remember when the goalie could handle the puck anywhere? It was always fun to see them skate too far out or really mess up handling the puck.
Limiting where a player can handle the puck when every other player can handle it everywhere is crazy. With the elimination of offsides it will have the goalie thinking twice before venturing too far away from the goal and if they do the chances of a spectacular play, for either side, are greatly improved.
Carry-over penalties
Officials have discussed this one already and look to come back to it in the future. While in the TSN article, the rule is aimed more towards the playoffs, it should be used the entire season.
The cheap shot or message sending type of hits that tend to occur late in a game, once the outcome is in hand, would have a carryover penalty. Ideally this would help prevent players who are losing from going after another player.
If they did then the penalty would carry over to the next game. Not all penalties should have this level of punishment. A simple hooking penalty for example should not. Any harsher penalty should be reviewed after the game to determine if it meets a “cheap shot” penalty.
The TSN article points to Shea Weber and the postgame face plant he put on Henrik Zetterberg. Under such a rule, Weber would have started the next game in the penalty box.
The only issue would be at what point in the game could penalties become a carryover? Obviously any penalty that cannot be served during the game would be included. Getting a two minute penalty with 30 seconds to go could be a carryover if it fails a review.
In order to prevent the cheap shots the time frame would need to be extended. All penalties in the last five minutes would be reviewable for a possible carryover. Remember the goal of this rule is to prevent the cheap shots or supposed ‘message sending’ plays. Theses plays have injured players. If a longer penalty is a possibility than hopefully players will think twice.
Four-on-four overtime
Detroit Red Wings GM Ken Holland has already brought up the idea of three-on-three hockey for overtime.
As discussed here his plan is to play four-on-four over the first five minutes of the playoffs, then switch to three-on-three if the score is still tied for another five minutes. If after those ten minutes the score is still tied then they would to a shootout.
Instead of that, the overtime should remain four-on-four but for a full 10 minutes. If the league wants to get away from shootouts then it should take away the automatic point for making it to overtime. This would keep the pressure up and should keep teams attacking more without the safety net of one point in the standings.
They could look into giving a point to each team for making it to the shootout but that is a small detail of the plan. More overtime means more hockey and that is a good thing.
The shootout is still good. It is an exciting way to end a game but it does happen a little too often, which has made the overtime period five minutes of boredom.
Allow buzzers beaters
While it does not happen often, it does happen and changing this rule could add another scoring element and increase the possibility of an exciting play.
Currently when a period is over the whistle is dead where it lies. Instead it should travel to the end of its path. By that I mean if a player gets a shot off before the clock runs out then it gets to complete the shot. This means hitting an ending point.
Much like basketball, where a player can make that last second shot or in football where once the ball is snapped the play can be completed, hockey needs a similar rule.
Since deflections are such a part of hockey that will need to be ironed out. Ideally the puck is not dead until it either hits the boards, scores or a player has control of it. This would mean a blue line shot as time expired could still bounce off a goalie or be redirected but a player could not reset or smack it in a rebound.
Rules changes the NHL should be looking at
By PJ Sapienza – June 13, 2012-06-13
NHL: Rule Changes the League Should Look Make | Bleacher Report
Eliminating offsides
Plain and simple, get rid of it. Many fans and non-fans of hockey complain about the lack of scoring. Opening up the entire ice at all times would greatly increase the scoring opportunities. Basketball is much more popular than hockey and the fast break is one of the more exciting plays in that game. Adding that element to hockey would be great for fans.
Also, with the league pressing for more player safety, opening up the middle of the ice should make it safer for the players. Currently the center of the ice tends to get clogged up. Many players get inured with bone-jarring hits in that area. Often the player is not looking or had just passed the puck in order to keep the team onsides.
Without offsides the ice would open up. Defenses would not be able to clog up the ice as much. The chances of clean fast breaks or odd man rushes would greatly increase. This means, at minimum, more scoring chances and likely more goals scored.
Let goalies play the puck
Remember when the goalie could handle the puck anywhere? It was always fun to see them skate too far out or really mess up handling the puck.
Limiting where a player can handle the puck when every other player can handle it everywhere is crazy. With the elimination of offsides it will have the goalie thinking twice before venturing too far away from the goal and if they do the chances of a spectacular play, for either side, are greatly improved.
Carry-over penalties
Officials have discussed this one already and look to come back to it in the future. While in the TSN article, the rule is aimed more towards the playoffs, it should be used the entire season.
The cheap shot or message sending type of hits that tend to occur late in a game, once the outcome is in hand, would have a carryover penalty. Ideally this would help prevent players who are losing from going after another player.
If they did then the penalty would carry over to the next game. Not all penalties should have this level of punishment. A simple hooking penalty for example should not. Any harsher penalty should be reviewed after the game to determine if it meets a “cheap shot” penalty.
The TSN article points to Shea Weber and the postgame face plant he put on Henrik Zetterberg. Under such a rule, Weber would have started the next game in the penalty box.
The only issue would be at what point in the game could penalties become a carryover? Obviously any penalty that cannot be served during the game would be included. Getting a two minute penalty with 30 seconds to go could be a carryover if it fails a review.
In order to prevent the cheap shots the time frame would need to be extended. All penalties in the last five minutes would be reviewable for a possible carryover. Remember the goal of this rule is to prevent the cheap shots or supposed ‘message sending’ plays. Theses plays have injured players. If a longer penalty is a possibility than hopefully players will think twice.
Four-on-four overtime
Detroit Red Wings GM Ken Holland has already brought up the idea of three-on-three hockey for overtime.
As discussed here his plan is to play four-on-four over the first five minutes of the playoffs, then switch to three-on-three if the score is still tied for another five minutes. If after those ten minutes the score is still tied then they would to a shootout.
Instead of that, the overtime should remain four-on-four but for a full 10 minutes. If the league wants to get away from shootouts then it should take away the automatic point for making it to overtime. This would keep the pressure up and should keep teams attacking more without the safety net of one point in the standings.
They could look into giving a point to each team for making it to the shootout but that is a small detail of the plan. More overtime means more hockey and that is a good thing.
The shootout is still good. It is an exciting way to end a game but it does happen a little too often, which has made the overtime period five minutes of boredom.
Allow buzzers beaters
While it does not happen often, it does happen and changing this rule could add another scoring element and increase the possibility of an exciting play.
Currently when a period is over the whistle is dead where it lies. Instead it should travel to the end of its path. By that I mean if a player gets a shot off before the clock runs out then it gets to complete the shot. This means hitting an ending point.
Much like basketball, where a player can make that last second shot or in football where once the ball is snapped the play can be completed, hockey needs a similar rule.
Since deflections are such a part of hockey that will need to be ironed out. Ideally the puck is not dead until it either hits the boards, scores or a player has control of it. This would mean a blue line shot as time expired could still bounce off a goalie or be redirected but a player could not reset or smack it in a rebound.
I like the eliminating offsides. they should eliminate icings as well. I don't like 4 on 4 overtime. they should also eliminate shootouts.
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I think eliminating offside would be silly. You'd end up with a player always hanging around in the opposing zone, waiting for a pass.
I don't understand the desire for 'more scoring'. Are people so stupid that they can't understand a low-scoring game? If that's the problem, just make each goal worth 5 points.
I don't understand the desire for 'more scoring'. Are people so stupid that they can't understand a low-scoring game? If that's the problem, just make each goal worth 5 points.
I know this wasn't discussed. I would like to see a playoff format change.
I would like it so that any 2 teams could theoretically meet in the Stanley cup finals. eg. toronto/ottawa, toronto/montreal, toronto/buffalo, etc.
wouldn't you guys like that?
I would like it so that any 2 teams could theoretically meet in the Stanley cup finals. eg. toronto/ottawa, toronto/montreal, toronto/buffalo, etc.
wouldn't you guys like that?
Thanks for your input, TP and Spam...............as mentioned I bow to more informed fans though I do like the idea of 4 on 4 hockey for OT as it opens the ice for the players.
Correct me if I am wrong, spam.............but aren't you straying into Bettman's territory here? He seems to be the final voice on how the play-offs are managed and as such he does favor the way the format is now.
I know this wasn't discussed. I would like to see a playoff format change.
I would like it so that any 2 teams could theoretically meet in the Stanley cup finals. eg. toronto/ottawa, toronto/montreal, toronto/buffalo, etc.
wouldn't you guys like that?
Correct me if I am wrong, spam.............but aren't you straying into Bettman's territory here? He seems to be the final voice on how the play-offs are managed and as such he does favor the way the format is now.
I wasn't meaning to sound like bettman. it's just something that I wanted and hoped others would want. eg. remember how excited everyone was when we hoped Toronto would play montreal in the Stanley cup final in 1992? that can't happen under the current playoff format.