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I was a little fuzzy about how the NHL play-offs worked.
Here is the low down for anyone else who might have been confused:

The NHL is divided into 2 conferences and then 3 divisions per conference. The teams with the most points in each division are seeded 1-3 and the next highest teams are seeded 4-8 for each conference. 16 teams make the playoffs and each round consists of a best of 7 series.

Round 1 (quarterfinals): 16 teams (8 per conference). 1vs8, 2vs7, 3vs6, 4vs5. Seeds 1-4 have home ice advantage*.

Round 2 (semifinals): 8 teams (4 per conference). After the first round, the teams are re-seeded so that the highest ranking team plays the lowest ranking team. i.e. If seeds 1, 2, 5, 6 won in round one, then the matchups would be 1vs6, and 2vs5, with the higher seeds having home ice advantage.

Round 3 (conference finals): 4 teams. Same as round 2. Western winner is awarded the Clarence S. Campbell Bowl and the Eastern winner is awarded the Prince of Wales Trophy.

Round 4 (Stanley Cup finals): 2 teams. The winners from each conference play each other for the Stanley Cup, the oldest trophy is pro sports history. The team with the better regular season has home ice advantage.

*home ice advantage means:
Game 1: better team plays at home
Game 2: better team plays at home
Game 3: better team plays away
Game 4: better team plays away
Game 5: better team plays at home
Game 6: better team plays away
Game 7: better team plays at home

Good post #Juan, I bet a lot of people have had their questions answered. :smile: I don't think any team has gone into the playoffs in as good of a position as the Canucks since the old Edmonton Oilers of the 80s.
 

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Good post #Juan, I bet a lot of people have had their questions answered. :smile: I don't think any team has gone into the playoffs in as good of a position as the Canucks since the old Edmonton Oilers of the 80s.

I kind of lost interest in the details when they added all the expansion teams

One other thing: I notice another bit of shiny hardware that the Canucks could bring home. The Clarence Campbell
trophy for being the winner of the western conference.
 

talloola

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I'm wondering when both of the trophies will be presented to them, maybe after tonights game?

Bettmen has to prepare to travel all the way to the west coast, hope he remembers where it is. lol
 

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I'm wondering when both of the trophies will be presented to them, maybe after tonights game?

Bettmen has to prepare to travel all the way to the west coast, hope he remembers where it is. lol

I suppose that's a good enough excuse to have to endure his presense or better yet have him do it by video. :lol:
 

talloola

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I suppose that's a good enough excuse to have to endure his presense or better yet have him do it by video. :lol:

I think the presidents' trophy is the 'Jennings', correct me if i'm wrong.

update, no that is incorrect, jennings is a combo goalie trophy.

guess its just called 'the presidents trophy', and nothing else attached.
 
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#juan

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Vancouver will be in the play-offs and when they've battled their way to the cup final, they will be the Campbell conference
champions and they will get the Clarence Campbell trophy. That is the extra bit of hardware I was talking about...:smile:
 

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yes, he did it again, just when calgary looked like they were toast again, the captain came to the
rescue, my favourite player for many years, he is very special.

When I saw him go for the goal that gave them the win, talloola, my heart just leapt in my chest. What a champion.

I was a little fuzzy about how the NHL play-offs worked.
Here is the low down for anyone else who might have been confused:

The NHL is divided into 2 conferences and then 3 divisions per conference. The teams with the most points in each division are seeded 1-3 and the next highest teams are seeded 4-8 for each conference. 16 teams make the playoffs and each round consists of a best of 7 series.

Round 1 (quarterfinals): 16 teams (8 per conference). 1vs8, 2vs7, 3vs6, 4vs5. Seeds 1-4 have home ice advantage*.

Round 2 (semifinals): 8 teams (4 per conference). After the first round, the teams are re-seeded so that the highest ranking team plays the lowest ranking team. i.e. If seeds 1, 2, 5, 6 won in round one, then the matchups would be 1vs6, and 2vs5, with the higher seeds having home ice advantage.

Round 3 (conference finals): 4 teams. Same as round 2. Western winner is awarded the Clarence S. Campbell Bowl and the Eastern winner is awarded the Prince of Wales Trophy.

Round 4 (Stanley Cup finals): 2 teams. The winners from each conference play each other for the Stanley Cup, the oldest trophy is pro sports history. The team with the better regular season has home ice advantage.

*home ice advantage means:
Game 1: better team plays at home
Game 2: better team plays at home
Game 3: better team plays away
Game 4: better team plays away
Game 5: better team plays at home
Game 6: better team plays away
Game 7: better team plays at home

Thanks very much for the research, juan. Listening to the guys on TSN just leaves me more confused. I now see how things work. :smile:

Wish I got the Cannucks game but my consolation prize is being able to switch back and forth between watching the Leafs take on the Sens in Ottawa and the Canadiens who are in New Jersey.
 
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It appears that I was wrong about getting the Cannuck's game, forgot that tonight is a double-header on CBC. Watching the Canadiens right now as they are playing solid hockey, up 1 - 0 at the end of the first. Anyway, when this game is over, get to watch Vancouver!!!!!!! Yeah!
 

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This is interesting........with less then 2 minutes to play in the 1rst, Detroit is up 3 - 1 on Sharks but Sharks just scored that goal as I write this. Howard should have had that goal.
 

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The Boston Bruins beat the Flyers 5 -1 tonight and will be advancing to the conference final for the first time since 1992.

Tim Thomas was great in the net tonight but really didn't have a lot of traffic. The Flyers spent much of all three periods trying to get out of their zone or the neutral zone as Boston pushed them back time after time. The final two goals by Boston were on an empty net. By that time the Flyers had obviously given up and were simply going through the motions.


From the opening period, Boston had the game in hand. They skated faster, better and smarter for the most part and were great little puck stealers. The Flyers rallied from time to time but beyond their one goal, they never really got close enough, long enough to do anything. Each time they got close to the net they were met by a wall of Bruins who did anything they could to push them back. The Bruins were everywhere and everyman tonight. They played a fantastic game.


After beating the Habs, I was really hoping that Boston would win their next series putting to rest any idea that their win over the Canadiens was just a fluke. They proved that beyond a doubt in this series with the Flyers. Good on them. Go, Boston, Go.
 

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This is interesting........with less then 2 minutes to play in the 1rst, Detroit is up 3 - 1 on Sharks but Sharks just scored that goal as I write this. Howard should have had that goal.

I thought he should have had it too, but on a replay they pointed out that couture redirected it
just at the corner of the net.
It was a very bad clearing pass by helm, don't know why he didn't just direct it out
off of the boards, instead of that bad pass out thru the middle of his own zone.

I'm glad detroit scored, as a canuck fan we need that series to keep going, and those
two teams to keep playing, we want an even playing field, don't want to be meeting
some 'fresh' team who have had lots of sleep, not much travel, and are raring to
go, and canucks need to finish their series off tomorrow, and get some rest.

The Boston Bruins beat the Flyers 5 -1 tonight and will be advancing to the conference final for the first time since 1992.

Tim After beating the Habs, I was really hoping that Boston would win their next series putting to rest any idea that their win over the Canadiens was just a fluke. They proved that beyond a doubt in this series with the Flyers. Good on them. Go, Boston, Go.

you're so right, flyers never did look settled, seemed like a broken up team most of the time, and
passes were intercepted all night, and i'm glad too that boston won, they look really good, but I
wonder about bergeron, hope he doesn't have another concussion, they need him, and he needs to be
healthy, that was a hard hit.
 

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I thought he should have had it too, but on a replay they pointed out that couture redirected it
just at the corner of the net.
It was a very bad clearing pass by helm, don't know why he didn't just direct it out
off of the boards, instead of that bad pass out thru the middle of his own zone.

I'm glad detroit scored, as a canuck fan we need that series to keep going, and those
two teams to keep playing, we want an even playing field, don't want to be meeting
some 'fresh' team who have had lots of sleep, not much travel, and are raring to
go, and canucks need to finish their series off tomorrow, and get some rest.



you're so right, flyers never did look settled, seemed like a broken up team most of the time, and
passes were intercepted all night, and i'm glad too that boston won, they look really good, but I
wonder about bergeron, hope he doesn't have another concussion, they need him, and he needs to be
healthy, that was a hard hit.

Oh talloola, I am so glad you came by, I really wanted to hear your comments on the games. I was switching back and forth during commercials but mostly watching Boston. You will get a laugh out of this but I was cheering for Detroit because I think their coach is a hunk :lol: and because I've heard a lot of good things about Pavel Datsuk (sp?). I haven't had the time to get to know all the teams yet. I'll keep cheering for Detroit for sure. Go, Red Wings, Go. :smile:

You're right about Bergeron, I am worried too. The hosts were talking about his other concussions and that hit was really hard. Marchand really played a good game and I give him a lot of credit. I didn't like him during the series with the Habs - though he was a nasty little so-and-so but he really stepped up his game in this series, IMHO and am fan now that he is playing hockey more than being a pest. I also like Horton and have come to see why Chara is such a valued member of the team. I actually cheered him when he finally said enough is enough and ended up in the penalty box. He takes a lot of 'stuff' out there yet is so solid for them the majority of the time.

I don't even know who they play next? Do they have some time off now?

Go, Boston, Go!
 

talloola

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Oh talloola, I am so glad you came by, I really wanted to hear your comments on the games. I was switching back and forth during commercials but mostly watching Boston. You will get a laugh out of this but I was cheering for Detroit because I think their coach is a hunk :lol: and because I've heard a lot of good things about Pavel Datsuk (sp?). I haven't had the time to get to know all the teams yet. I'll keep cheering for Detroit for sure. Go, Red Wings, Go. :smile:

You're right about Bergeron, I am worried too. The hosts were talking about his other concussions and that hit was really hard. Marchand really played a good game and I give him a lot of credit. I didn't like him during the series with the Habs - though he was a nasty little so-and-so but he really stepped up his game in this series, IMHO and am fan now that he is playing hockey more than being a pest. I also like Horton and have come to see why Chara is such a valued member of the team. I actually cheered him when he finally said enough is enough and ended up in the penalty box. He takes a lot of 'stuff' out there yet is so solid for them the majority of the time.

I don't even know who they play next? Do they have some time off now?

Go, Boston, Go!

they play tampa bay, only other team left in the east, winner will play for the stanley cup.
they will probably have more than a week left, depends how long it takes for the west to finish
their conference semi finals.

winner of canucks and winner of san jose series will play each other for the right to play
in the stanley cup final, against the eastern winner.

datsuk has been one of my favourite players for years, he is the biggest
thief of the puck in the NHL, hence his winning of the 'selke' award for
the best two way player in the NHL, maybe this year kesler will win it, he
has been nominated twice, I think this is his year.

yes, isn't it wierd how one can suddenly see all of the neat things abou a player
when you can let go of him as the 'enemy' and see him as a player on a team you
are cheering for.

I will be cheering for boston too.
 
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There are several rules changes being considered in the league this year and they are looking to change some of the equipment that the players wear - the latter is something that Don Cherry has been talking about for ages now and I must say he does make sense.

Burke’s ‘bear hug’ could improve NHL safety | Posted Sports | National Post

oh, very exciting to scroll down the list and see a 'hockey' thread.
I like some of the suggestions, including the 'bear hug' one, and it will take time to perfect that move,
but it would add much safety to the 'on the boards' hit.

I also like the 'penalty kill' that does not allow icing, and does not allow the player to come out of
the box when a goal is scored. We talked about both of those rules a long time ago, but didn't think
anyone would actually suggest it.
If one gets a penalty, it is a 'true' penalty, with no favours attached to it, just tough it out.
The rule use to be the other way until the montreal canadians, with their powerhouse teams way back when
had too much of an advantage, so they changed it.
Tney were just scoring too many goals, compared to other teams, but that situation does not exist now,
thanks to the draft.
 

talloola

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Glad to be of service, talloola. :smile: I am especially interested to see if anything comes of the change in equipment suggestions being made by Brendon Shannahan. I also read that they are thinking of changing the net.

NHL considers immediate changes to nets - The Globe and Mail

yeah, shoulder pads are weapons, and the sooner they soften them up the better, I mean what did they
expect, it doesn't take a genius to realize that a big hard covering on a players shoulder, (that he can
legally hit with) is a weapon, da, they have to watch those shoulders consistently injuring others over
a long period of time before they realize that? I don't understand.

Shoulder pads are suppose to be worn to protect the players shoulder only.

They can't make a rule that one can't hit with the shoulder, thats going too far, the shoulder has been
used to lead a body check for many years, 'just' soften the pad, and the player wearing the pads will
protect himself from injury as best he can, and when he hits with his shoulder he won't do damage to the
other player,and now that 'head' shots are 100% illegal, that will improve things immensely.

I like the fact that the change in nets will help determine a real goal or not a
goal, not sure about making them more shallow, wouldn't that cause more pucks
going into the net, then back out, not sure.

I like, and expected the removal of stanchons, the curved glass is much better,
those stanchons were deaths just waiting to happen.
 

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Funeral services for the late Rick Rypien and former Canuck will be held tomorrow in my community at the ice sportsplex he was teaching hockey school to kids from before he passed on.As a small mining community of ten thousand we pride ourselves on our hockey players,we have had 3 from here in the NHL,Rypien,Wakaluk and Houda.The Rypien family is well know here in the crows nest pass and very well liked.He will be missed by friends family and lots of fans,we all knew of his personal problems but thought he had healed with him signing on with the Winnipeg jets.We were all pulling for him to get his hockey career back on track so this came as a big shock to all here.
R.I.P. Rick
 

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Funeral services for the late Rick Rypien and former Canuck will be held tomorrow in my community at the ice sportsplex he was teaching hockey school to kids from before he passed on.As a small mining community of ten thousand we pride ourselves on our hockey players,we have had 3 from here in the NHL,Rypien,Wakaluk and Houda.The Rypien family is well know here in the crows nest pass and very well liked.He will be missed by friends family and lots of fans,we all knew of his personal problems but thought he had healed with him signing on with the Winnipeg jets.We were all pulling for him to get his hockey career back on track so this came as a big shock to all here.
R.I.P. Rick

I will think of him tomorrow, and remember the good times he had, playing with the canucks. I don't
really understand depression at all, and from what we were told by a fellow player who had seen him
just a few days before his death, he was in very good spirits and looking forward to his stint with the
jets.
How did it all get turned around so quickly.

My thoughts go out to his family, who must be so sad right now, and missing him very much.
 
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Kakato

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I will think of him tomorrow, and remember the good times he had, playing with the canucks. I don't
really understand depression at all, and from what we were told by a fellow player who had seen him
just a few days before his death, he was in very good spirits and looking forward to his stint with the
jets.
How did it all get turned around so quickly.

My thoughts go out to his family, who must be so sad right now, and missing him very much.
For sure and I like this that was posted on his facebook tribute page.

"I think they should take this opportunity to raise awareness that depression and mental illness is REAL and it's not your fault. Don't be too much of a tough guy to reach out and get help."

I can see why the Canucks fans loved him so much,we all did here at home too because he was the little guy fighting his way to the top tooth and nail.
 
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