Weapons Left By US Troops 'Used as Bait to Kill Iraqis'

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Weapons Left By US Troops 'Used as Bait to Kill Iraqis'
By Kim Sengupta - October 4, 2007

US soldiers are luring Iraqis to their deaths by scattering military equipment on the ground as "bait", and then shooting those who pick them up, it has been alleged at a court martial. The highly controversial tactic, which has hitherto been kept secret, is believed to have been responsible for the deaths of a number of Iraqis who were subsequently classified as enemy combatants and used in statistics to show the "success" of the "surge" in US forces.

The revelation came in court documents, obtained by The Washington Post , related to murder charges against three US soldiers who are alleged to have planted incriminating evidence on civilians they had killed. In a sworn statement, Captain Matthew Didier, the officer in charge of a sniper platoon, said: "Basically we would put an item out there and watch it. If someone found the item, picked it up and attempted to leave with the item, we would engage the individual as I saw this as a sign they would use the item against the US forces."

Capt Didier, of the 1st Battalion 501st Infantry Regiment, said members of the US military's Asymmetric Warfare Group visited his unit in January and later supplied ammunition boxes filled with "drop items" to be used " to disrupt the AIF [Anti-Iraq Forces] attempts at harming coalition forces and give us the upper hand in a fight." Within months of the introduction of the strategy, three snipers in Capt Didier's platoon were charged with murder for allegedly using the "baits " to try to cover up unprovoked shootings. Specialist Jorge Sandoval and Staff Sgt Michael Hensley are accused of placing a spool of wire, sometimes used to detonate roadside bombs, in the pocket of a man who had been cutting grass with a rusty sickle after he was killed on 27 April this year.

Sgt Evan Vela is accused of shooting an Iraqi prisoner twice in the head with a 9mm pistol on the orders of Staff Sgt Hensley. The two soldiers told investigators that the man was carrying an AK-47 rifle. Other soldiers have testified that the rifle was planted next to the Iraqi after he was shot. In earlier testimony Pte David Petta said he believed that "classified" items were to be placed on people killed by the sniper unit "if we killed somebody that we knew was a bad guy but didn't have the evidence to show for it". The court martial of Spc Sandoval is due to start in Baghdad this week. His father, Curtis Carnahan, accused the US military of holding the proceedings in a war zone to try to minimise publicity. "I feel you can't prosecute our soldiers for acts of war and threaten them with years and years of confinement when this ["bait"] programme, if it comes to the light of day, was clearly coming from higher levels."

A US military spokes-man said: "We don't discuss specific methods of targeting enemy combatants. The accused are charged with murder and wrongfully placing weapons on the remains of Iraqi nationals. There are no classified programmes that authorise the murder of local nationals and the use of 'drop weapons' to make killings appear legally justified."

A US military source said "baits" had been left by a number of units. "The guys picking them up are sometimes bad guys. But how do you know each time?" Robert Emerson, a British security analyst, said: "This seems a highly arbitrary and suspect way of carrying out counter-insurgency operations."

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Locutus

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That's awfully nice of them. Jeezus. :roll:

It likely makes for better amateur vids of Marines 'gettin' some' that hit youtube, ogrish and liveleak though.
 

thomaska

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So three people used a tactic that probably had some validity to it, to cover up their bad deeds.

Got it.

Funny that the Washigton post is only talking about Iraqis, when there are probably plenty of Saudis, Yemenis, Chechen's and every other breed of Islamic whacko picking stuff up as well.

No obvious slant to this article at all....:roll:

Why we would have to leave anything laying around is beyond me. There are plenty of AK's to be found and the 7.62 ammo for them is probably way easier to come by than the NATO 5.56 ammo.
 

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I hope the Iragi's plant something that will have U.S soldiers pick it up and then Iraqi snipers, who were extremely successful in 2005 and 2006 in Baghdad pick off the American troops.
 

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It's difficult to expect anything different from a national military that invaded a nation without substantial reason and has lost that engagement and any respect it once had as a nation. It seems obvious to me that when you invade someone's country and demonstrate to the world that torture lies and willingness to eschew international laws that were agreed upon by the U.S., set up secret prisons and kidnap people to be sent to be tortured by someone else so you can pretend you have some idea about morality that anythings possible from this military that's been steeped in dirty tricks for decades. America wants on one hand for the world to acknowledge the bravery and selflessness of firefighters on September 11/01, but to dismiss this and all kinds of other renegade criminal behavior as just the actions of a few misguided souls.

From Abu Ghraib to Guantanamo, from foreign policy to corruption on a planet-wide scale, the world is learning that the American soldier has become the instrument of America that mirrors the nation that the United States has become.
 

thomaska

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I hope the Iragi's plant something that will have U.S soldiers pick it up and then Iraqi snipers, who were extremely successful in 2005 and 2006 in Baghdad pick off the American troops.

Be nice if they'd just pick you off...but since you won't be in Iraq, I can always hope for colon cancer or a drunk driver in your case I suppose
 

MikeyDB

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Thomaska

Do you honestly believe that saying something like that will strengthen your case?

Or was is simply an outrageous burst of anger that had to suffice in the absence of a better thought-through idea?

Or are you making reference to the DU that's used in American ordinance as the methodology to be adopted to push pharmaceutical corporations profits higher when sufficient numbers of people do get colon cancer etc....

You (America) invaded Iraq and now you're suggesting that there's some understandable and laudable rationale behind leaving equipment that people of the nation you've reduced to rubble and left without opportunity collect....(sell as scrap) deserve to be executed for touching and handling a particular item?

Just when you thought the bar couldn't be lowered any further....
 

thomaska

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Thomaska

Do you honestly believe that saying something like that will strengthen your case?

Or was is simply an outrageous burst of anger that had to suffice in the absence of a better thought-through idea?

Or are you making reference to the DU that's used in American ordinance as the methodology to be adopted to push pharmaceutical corporations profits higher when sufficient numbers of people do get colon cancer etc....

You (America) invaded Iraq and now you're suggesting that there's some understandable and laudable rationale behind leaving equipment that people of the nation you've reduced to rubble and left without opportunity collect....(sell as scrap) deserve to be executed for touching and handling a particular item?

Just when you thought the bar couldn't be lowered any further....

If you don't get it, then it really can't be explained.

You may impress some people on here with your rants that border on terminal pessimism, but when you break it down to the lowest common denominator, all you do is whine...

Would you like some cheese with that?
 
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MikeyDB

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Nice.

Avoids reason and is insulting at the same time....

You're a fine example of what it is to be American today....
 

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I hope the Iragi's plant something that will have U.S soldiers pick it up and then Iraqi snipers, who were extremely successful in 2005 and 2006 in Baghdad pick off the American troops.

Greetings comrade Jersay, thankyou for saving our country. Are you an officer yet?
To properly bait American troops requires slimely greasy double cheeze burgers which they can't resist. :lol: