'We knew nothing': Joseph Goebbels' former secretary says it was 'just another job'

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"What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"
 

Blackleaf

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Like so many Brits did.

How many Brits?

One notorious Nazi sympathiser was America's ambassador to Britain Joe Kennedy, who was also convinced that the British would surrender to the Germans and that her end weas imminent.

..as long as none of those foreigners beyond Calais speak English, don't eat that mook and don't stink of garlic.

To be honest, I think the French should give Calais - a former English colony - back to the English, as well as Normandy and much of what is now western France.
 

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Your king, for one.

 

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How many Brits?

One notorious Nazi sympathiser was America's ambassador to Britain Joe Kennedy, who was also convinced that the British would surrender to the Germans and that her end weas imminent.



To be honest, I think the French should give Calais - a former English colony - back to the English, as well as Normandy and much of what is now western France.

Who was a colony of whom after Hastings?
 

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Who was a colony of whom after Hastings?

England and Normandy were unified together as one kingdom after Hastings. The English king was also the Duke of Normandy until the French stole Normandy off King John in the early 13th Century (apart from the Channel Islands, which is the only part of Normandy which is still ours). I think the French should give us back Normandy, the former English possession of Calais, and all the other English territories, such as Anjou, which they disgracefully stole from us and which we failed to regain possession of during the Hundred Years War.
 

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England and Normandy were unified together as one kingdom after Hastings. The English king was also the Duke of Normandy until the French stole Normandy off King John in the early 13th Century (apart from the Channel Islands, which is the only part of Normandy which is still ours). I think the French should give us back Normandy, the former English possession of Calais, and all the other English territories, such as Anjou, which they disgracefully stole from us and which we failed to regain possession of during the Hundred Years War.

Every member of your "government" spoke French and had French names for a couple of hundred years after that. Who was the colony?
 

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Every member of your "government" spoke French and had French names for a couple of hundred years after that. Who was the colony?

They may have spoken French (Norman French, to be more precise) but they were Normans, not French. The Normans were Vikings, more closely related to the Anglo-Saxons than the French. In fact, William the Conqueror hated the French and died whilst fighting them.

As for whether or not England - and then, a bit later, Wales, Scotland and Ireland (it was the Normans who founded England's first foothold in Ireland) - was a "colony" of Normandy has been debated and argued over by historians for a long time.
 

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England and Normandy were unified together as one kingdom after Hastings. The English king was also the Duke of Normandy until the French stole Normandy off King John in the early 13th Century (apart from the Channel Islands, which is the only part of Normandy which is still ours). I think the French should give us back Normandy, the former English possession of Calais, and all the other English territories, such as Anjou, which they disgracefully stole from us and which we failed to regain possession of during the Hundred Years War.

How could they steal what was already theirs. All the French did was boot an invading species out.
 

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England and Normandy were unified together as one kingdom after Hastings. The English king was also the Duke of Normandy until the French stole Normandy off King John in the early 13th Century (apart from the Channel Islands, which is the only part of Normandy which is still ours). I think the French should give us back Normandy, the former English possession of Calais, and all the other English territories, such as Anjou, which they disgracefully stole from us and which we failed to regain possession of during the Hundred Years War.

In a sense, you have all that right now through EU citizenship. Any Brit can live in any of those places with nothing more than a passport.

You're the ones throwing it all away.
 

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How could they steal what was already theirs. All the French did was boot an invading species out.

Nope. The French stole vast swathes of land off the English - Normandy, Anjou, Aquitaine, to name but a few - lands ruled by the English king. The Hundred Years War was the English king trying to get back that territory which the French had stolen from his ancestor King John.

I take it you were never taught about the Hundred Years War at school...

In a sense, you have all that right now through EU citizenship. Any Brit can live in any of those places with nothing more than a passport.

You're the ones throwing it all away.

Thankfully, I'm not going to be an EU citizen soon.

The sooner we're out of the EU, the better.
 

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Nope. The French stole vast swathes of land off the English - Normandy, Anjou, Aquitaine, to name but a few - lands ruled by the English king. The Hundred Years War was the English king trying to get back that territory which the French had stolen from his ancestor King John.

I take it you were never taught about the Hundred Years War at school...



Thankfully, I'm not going to be an EU citizen soon.

The sooner we're out of the EU, the better.

Well make up your mind. Do you want access to those places or not?
 

Blackleaf

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Well make up your mind. Do you want access to those places or not?

I want out of the EU, and the sooner the better.

You make it sound as though being outside the EU is something weird and nutty, practised by very few countries and people, rather than the position that 7 billion of the world's 7.5 billion people find themselves in.
 

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I want out of the EU, and the sooner the better.

You make it sound as though being outside the EU is something weird and nutty, practised by very few countries and people, rather than the position that 7 billion of the world's 7.5 billion people find themselves in.

You said you wanted Normandy and Anjou. As EU citizens, you have them already, but now want to abandon them.