How come every time Bibi is about to be dethroned something happens? Lucky bastard? Good timing?
War With Iran
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Iran promised a harsh response to the overnight onslaught, which killed the heads of both its armed forces and the powerful Revolutionary Guards, and Israel said about 100 drones had been launched towards Israeli territory in retaliation.
In a televised message, President Masoud Pezeshkian urged Iranians to stand by their leaders (just not their military leaders) and said a powerful response "will make Israel regret its foolish act".
Iranically Iran, Middle East’s Karen…
Where do IDF soldiers go when they... shhhhhh, shut the fuck up. Is there a “Your Mom” joke in there somewhere?😁
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MARCO RUBIO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE:
"Tonight, Israel took unilateral action against Iran. We are not involved in strikes against Iran and our top priority is protecting American forces in the region.
"Let me be clear: Iran should not target U.S. interests or personnel."
Considering that you scream "WW3" every time somebody makes a nasty comment in the international sphere, shouldn't we be up to WW27 or so?
I wonder what the Vegas odds are on de-escalation in the Middle East? Anita Anand, in a statement posted to X, warned that “further action” risks triggering “a broader regional conflict with devastating consequences.”
In an earlier statement from the White House, United States Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Israel took “unilateral action against Iran” that did not involve the U.S….but did they know about it in advance and not say anything? Well, that’s a different question. Rubio then added a warning: “Let me be clear: Iran should not target U.S. interests of personnel.”
Toronto, Peel and York police stepped up with messages to the public and have deployed strategies to respond just in case they are needed. Everybody is hoping they will not be. But with the possibility of World War III on the horizon, they have done their due diligence to make sure their citizens are safe?
Israel has warned that its aerial assault on Iran, bombing nuclear facilities and air defences, killing military commanders and scientists, was “just the beginning” of an operation to smash the country’s nuclear programme, leaving the Middle East facing the prospect of a full-scale war. Good times. Peace in the Middle East, etc…
Remember the last time we trusted Bibi? 1 million dead over a lie and then ISIS that rose from the mess.
Oh…solely & unverified? Not from anywhere else at all?
Apparently, I’m really bad at underlining.
I was paraphrasing. Simplifying. So retribution for 9/11 is solely on Israeli-Yahoo. No other factors or variables? Nothing but Bibi?
Was it or was it not Bibi who made the "Iraq definetly has WMDs" speech to Congress or Roy Sesana?
Had it been CIA or MI6 or CSIS who put it out would Bibi need to address Congress or would that be the Director of National Intelligence's job who sits in Congress spilling the beans?
So…multi-Brazilian-dollar global intelligence & military outfits didn’t verify with a Google search or something? Assets on the ground? Clowns to the left of me? Jokers to the right? That seems a little… incompetent at best. I’m assuming there’s more than one source of information for that kind of decision, but that’s just me, or it’s all Jewyahoo all day all the time for all, etc…
I’m sure it was.
What does IDF General Shlomo Brom have to say aboot it?
Read up.
Brom posits that Saddam's desire for survival obviates both theses developed by Israeli intelligence agencies as explanations of why Iraq might attack Israel with non-conventional weapons. The first thesis predicted that "when Saddam's "back was against the wall"… he would strive for a dramatic conclusion to his regime - one that 'would take Israel with him.'" The second theory argues that Saddam would try to hamper American military operations by preemptively striking Israel before the war.
"Both [theses] disregarded the unequivocal indications in Saddam's behavior prior to the war that he was focused on strengthening his chances of survival. This was manifested first in his attempt to prevent the war, and then in his search for a way to survive even if war erupted. However, no intelligence efforts were made to assess whether or not an attack on Israel would contribute to his survival… All signs indicated that on the eve of the war, Saddam was trying to convince the international community that he did not possess weapons of mass destruction and that there was therefore no reason to go to war. Had he initiated a preemptive strike, he would have given the United States the ultimate excuse for war….The back-to-the-wall thesis [similarly]… disregards the fact that a survivor like Saddam would strive to resurface even after defeat, especially given the not infrequent phenomenon among Arab dictators of surviving severe losses and bitter defeats. … Furthermore, this thesis ignores the difficulty people have - especially people of Saddam Hussein's type - to acknowledge that they are "done for" until the very last moment. Thus, the dogmatic, one-dimensional conception of Saddam tainted all pieces of information and prevented the emergence of any alternative interpretation."
Worse-Case Scenario Assessments
General Brom attributes the Israeli intelligence community's adoption of the worst-case scenario to a desire to evade culpability for under-preparedness. According to Brom, the intelligence lapse prior to the Yom Kippur War created a culture of "assigning culpability and punishing those responsible as a primary purpose in assessing events." The Israeli media is particularly responsible for encouraging this tendency. As a result, Brom argues, intelligence estimates tend to be dire.
"If investigating the truth, that is, aiming to uncover the facts and learn lessons to prevent the recurrence of similar mistakes, does not lie at the heart of the investigation of an event, rather it is driven by finding and punishing the responsible party, even for inadvertent mistakes, then every decision-maker will tend to make decisions completely devoid of risk, even if it is not done consciously. This has created an unworkable situation in the intelligence community, since generating intelligence means creating a picture of reality in a state of uncertainty. ..Intelligence analysts feel that by giving bleak assessments they decrease the threat to themselves: if the assessment ends up being correct they will be heroes, and if it ends up being untrue, no one will give them any trouble because everyone will be pleased that their bleak prophecies did not materialize."
Costs of Inflated Intelligence Assessments
General Brom warns that making faulty and overblown intelligence assessments can exact a heavy price. It erodes the public's trust in the intelligence community and in decision makers. It can seriously harm international relations, rendering foreign services wary of accepting Israeli intelligence. The psychological impact and the propensity to panic amongst the population, as witnessed prior to the war, reduces the "public's fortitude." It may also be detrimental to Israel's security concerns because it propagates an image of weakness and vulnerability. "Israel's potential enemies might conclude in retrospect that if Israel was so frightened by what was apparently such a negligible threat, it clearly has good reason to be." Investigating Israel's intelligence failure in the war in Iraq, he says, is crucial for ensuring Israel can evade these costs in the future.
I’m not up to the above novel tonight but’ll circle back in the AM….but anyway…
Seriously? Schlomo?
