War Crimes doesnt apply to United States, Israel and China, all of them doesnt even care about it.
War Crimes?
- Thread starter #juan
- Start date
War Crimes doesnt apply to United States, Israel and China, all of them doesnt even care about it.
It was bad , yes, but how come US media didnt talk about it, when it happened? why usa were still good friend with saddam after all?
US- CIA did the same in panama, they kill so many innoncent peoples that they tried to hide them from the public by putting them in the mass graves, even after the operation, 3000 were reported as death peoples, cnn and all those crappy news sources, reported 200 victims.
I don't know about Israel or china but the US rejects the international war crimes tribunal in the Hauge Explicitly because US personal would be brought before this .
Awesome, so what do you suggest: charging the anti-war protesters with Bish, et als war crimes?
How wonderfully Orwellian and perverse!
Pangloss
Those Panama casualties were NEVER verified. It was just the propaganda of a documentary maker because 3000 Panama deaths is much better than about one hundred. Show me any SOLID documentation of excavations of mass graves in Panama. Amnesty Intl. would have been searching endlessly for them if there was reason to believe they were there.
As you like it. Under who's reign were three million VietNamese, Laotian, and Cambodian civilians bombed to death? Under who's reign were a million Korean civilians bombed to death. Funny you believe these organizations about Saddam's killing but ignore them about American killings. Can't have it both ways...
Zzarchov
I can't go back over all your contributions to this topic - but appreciate your words - you certainly made some sense on this - and it fits with what I understood what was happening during Gulf One.
Thanks for your writing....greenie headed your way!
I can't go back over all your contributions to this topic - but appreciate your words - you certainly made some sense on this - and it fits with what I understood what was happening during Gulf One.
Thanks for your writing....greenie headed your way!
Why don't you start a thread about charging Churchill for war crimes for bombing Dresden then?
Juan
Your OP argued that sanctions - which were implemented under international law by the United Nations - are a basis for war crimes. Yet, you merely brush aside Saddam - a leader cited by human rights organizations as one of the most brutal dictators in the world - as "not a saint."
The implementation of international law sanctioned by the UN is not even in the same ballpark as someone who is flagged as one of the worst human rights abusers by the likes of Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.
Not only that, but sanctions were the policy response advocated by so many who didn't want to go to war in 1990. Yet now you are saying that those imposing sanctions should be tried for war crimes.
Huh?
Your OP argued that sanctions - which were implemented under international law by the United Nations - are a basis for war crimes. Yet, you merely brush aside Saddam - a leader cited by human rights organizations as one of the most brutal dictators in the world - as "not a saint."
The implementation of international law sanctioned by the UN is not even in the same ballpark as someone who is flagged as one of the worst human rights abusers by the likes of Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.
Not only that, but sanctions were the policy response advocated by so many who didn't want to go to war in 1990. Yet now you are saying that those imposing sanctions should be tried for war crimes.
Huh?
Last edited:
Now we bombed/killed a million Koreans? Did the UN have anything to do with that? It was a UN Mission was it not? So who's "reign" really was it?
Did the North Koreans have any blame for that war? Didn't they invade S. Korea? Did they kill any civillians or does any civillian killed naturally get blamed on the US?
Saddam invaded because the Kuwaitees were slant drilling into Iraqi oil feilds and he was also inadvertenly given the green light by April Glaspie, a U.S. diplomat.
The official U.S. story of Panamanian deaths is about 256 and admits that 75 percent of those were civilians. Four different human rights groups put the death toll at 2,500 to 4,000 civilians.
Well where are the bodies then? Where are the mass graves? I was there and I did not see that many. The civillian dead happened mostly in the assault of the Panama City downtown PDF Station and the ensuing fire. Of course human rights group are going to say there were 2,500 to 4,000. Saying there were 256 just isn't juicy enough. And they don't even need facts to back up their claims! They haven't come up with them yet.
Those sanctions were because saddam invaded koweit, and then USA and UK decided to let the sanctsion on, and since they are part of the 5 permanent member,they even threathen to use their veto, if someone would try to lift them.
U.S. Army General Maxwell Thurman admitted during an interview shown in a film describing panama attrocity that there was mass grave done by US military..
WRONG.
In the Michael Moore'esq documentary he said there was a grave with "some number" of bodies. Those were his exact words. Bodies should be buried and not left to rot.
Now then... ALL former US Military bases in Panama belong to Panama. Have they located these "MASS" graves yet?
Answer... NO.
Edited. In the documentary the narrator says "Shortly after the invasion a mass grave was uncovered revealing hundreds, PERHAPS thousands of Panamanians."
What we KNOW for a fact. Hundreds were uncovered. That is in line with the official US estimates of hundreds being killed. The grave was not a secret and it was pointed out to Panamania authorities after the invasion..
What she specualated with the word "PERHAPS" was what they would rather you believe with no basis of fact that there were " perhaps thousands" buried.
Last edited:
Or we could call Saddam a hero for gassing the Kurds in 1988 as Churchill did in the 1920's.
Last edited:
That and the 2 million barrels of oil a day that Saddam would added to Iraq's production.
That, and Kuwait has been considered the 19th province of Iraq by Baghdad.
That, and difficulties at home made a war good excused to divert attention, especially after the failed invasion of Iran.
That, and Saddam saw himself as a new Nebuchadnezzar.
All more compelling reasons.