WalMart - Store closing over unionising, Boycott called

Will you join me in a boycott of WalMart?

  • Does WalMart get its market dominance fairly?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    1

Paranoid Dot Calm

Council Member
Jul 6, 2004
1,142
0
36
Hide-Away Lane, Toronto
Yuh Know;

No one trusts the leadership of a union and that they would act responsibly.
Nobody votes in a union without feeling the need to. Unionism is not like religion. People don't form a union because they are into cults.

People in that store were ordinary folks and who felt that management was not giving them a fair shake, and under huge pressure inside the workplace .... just like the Iraqis' .... they voted for a union.
I would also think that they knew that the company might just pull-up stakes and leave .... but they still signed a union card. Yuh gotta respect them for that.

There is a need within a workplace to negotiate workplace standards. A corporation has no conscience.

It is not a corporation that is the conscience of the workplace or community, but rather a union.

I have huge experience dealing with corporations. I have seen alot.
I could give you stories here that would make your hair curl.
But, I don't wanna bore yuh.

And JustFred:
I was only jokin' with yuh .... having a laugh.
Don't be offended.

Calm
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

Council Member
Jul 6, 2004
1,142
0
36
Hide-Away Lane, Toronto
Yuh Know;

No one trusts the leadership of a union and that they would act responsibly.
Nobody votes in a union without feeling the need to. Unionism is not like religion. People don't form a union because they are into cults.

People in that store were ordinary folks and who felt that management was not giving them a fair shake, and under huge pressure inside the workplace .... just like the Iraqis' .... they voted for a union.
I would also think that they knew that the company might just pull-up stakes and leave .... but they still signed a union card. Yuh gotta respect them for that.

There is a need within a workplace to negotiate workplace standards. A corporation has no conscience.

It is not a corporation that is the conscience of the workplace or community, but rather a union.

I have huge experience dealing with corporations. I have seen alot.
I could give you stories here that would make your hair curl.
But, I don't wanna bore yuh.

And JustFred:
I was only jokin' with yuh .... having a laugh.
Don't be offended.

Calm
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

Council Member
Jul 6, 2004
1,142
0
36
Hide-Away Lane, Toronto
Yuh Know;

No one trusts the leadership of a union and that they would act responsibly.
Nobody votes in a union without feeling the need to. Unionism is not like religion. People don't form a union because they are into cults.

People in that store were ordinary folks and who felt that management was not giving them a fair shake, and under huge pressure inside the workplace .... just like the Iraqis' .... they voted for a union.
I would also think that they knew that the company might just pull-up stakes and leave .... but they still signed a union card. Yuh gotta respect them for that.

There is a need within a workplace to negotiate workplace standards. A corporation has no conscience.

It is not a corporation that is the conscience of the workplace or community, but rather a union.

I have huge experience dealing with corporations. I have seen alot.
I could give you stories here that would make your hair curl.
But, I don't wanna bore yuh.

And JustFred:
I was only jokin' with yuh .... having a laugh.
Don't be offended.

Calm
 

justfred

Electoral Member
Dec 26, 2004
325
71
28
Drumheller
Re: RE: WalMart - Store closing over unionising, Boycott ca

That sounds like a "Brain Dead" thought. I would like to loose my job because I was a union carrying member when I shop at Walmart, because I could then file a claim against the union and either get a pension for the rest of my life or abour $125 million for wrongful dismissal. :twisted:
 

justfred

Electoral Member
Dec 26, 2004
325
71
28
Drumheller
Re: RE: WalMart - Store closing over unionising, Boycott ca

That sounds like a "Brain Dead" thought. I would like to loose my job because I was a union carrying member when I shop at Walmart, because I could then file a claim against the union and either get a pension for the rest of my life or abour $125 million for wrongful dismissal. :twisted:
 

justfred

Electoral Member
Dec 26, 2004
325
71
28
Drumheller
Re: RE: WalMart - Store closing over unionising, Boycott ca

That sounds like a "Brain Dead" thought. I would like to loose my job because I was a union carrying member when I shop at Walmart, because I could then file a claim against the union and either get a pension for the rest of my life or abour $125 million for wrongful dismissal. :twisted:
 

Gonzo

Electoral Member
Dec 5, 2004
997
1
18
Was Victoria, now Ottawa
I'll boycot Wal-Mart. I never shop there anyway.
As for unions, I've had only good experiences with them. I worked at JDS and made $9 an hour starting off. When we were all laid off I got a job in a nursing home and made $15 an hour working part time (while in college) and had full health care benifits. You cant complain about having to paying union fees because you make it all back and more with a fair salary and health benifits.
 

Gonzo

Electoral Member
Dec 5, 2004
997
1
18
Was Victoria, now Ottawa
I'll boycot Wal-Mart. I never shop there anyway.
As for unions, I've had only good experiences with them. I worked at JDS and made $9 an hour starting off. When we were all laid off I got a job in a nursing home and made $15 an hour working part time (while in college) and had full health care benifits. You cant complain about having to paying union fees because you make it all back and more with a fair salary and health benifits.
 

Gonzo

Electoral Member
Dec 5, 2004
997
1
18
Was Victoria, now Ottawa
I'll boycot Wal-Mart. I never shop there anyway.
As for unions, I've had only good experiences with them. I worked at JDS and made $9 an hour starting off. When we were all laid off I got a job in a nursing home and made $15 an hour working part time (while in college) and had full health care benifits. You cant complain about having to paying union fees because you make it all back and more with a fair salary and health benifits.
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

Council Member
Jul 6, 2004
1,142
0
36
Hide-Away Lane, Toronto
Yuh Know;

I once had a job with the largest food (cereal) manufacturing company in the world and at it's Canadian plant in Rexdale, Ontario.

When the first Free Trade agreement was signed, it allowed the company to import flour from the U.S.. Prior the Free Trade Agreement, cereals contained Canadian grown wheat and grains.
The Free Trade agreement allowed companies to export cereal from the US without having Canadian "content".

Within 3 months of the Free Trade agreement, the company opened negotiations with the union.
After lengthy and fruitless negotiations, the employees walked off the job.
The company went back to the negotiating table and settled with the union after about 60 days.

Shortly afterwards, while speaking with the President, I noticed hand-written notes on his desktop. I read these notes on the sneak and unknown to him.
The hand-written notes detailed a date when the company would be closing it's plant.

I was a salaried employee and not a union member. So, I just kept the information under my hat and sat back and watched.

The first thing that happened was that the company "promoted" the Canadian born President of Canadian operations to the US plant and replaced him with an American.

Within 60 days, the company began making huge renovations to the plant. They painted the complete plant. They bought all new maintenance equipment. Millions of dollars were being spent. They even paved and painted the parking lot. Oh! I remember how proud the unionized workers were as they parked in their numbered spots.
The company even renovated the employee cafeteria.
They spent millions and without a care to costs. They hired landscapers and everything.

Inside the plant, they began to bring in a new type of manufacturing process. A new packaging plant. It was said to be "experimental".
As they tore out the old equipment and installed the new, the new equipment was just bolted to the floor of the plant.

In less than 18 months they were out of Canada.

They said that the cost of making cereal in Canada was just too much and they brought out the financial figures to show it. Of course it included all the capital expenditures for renovations and equipment. Of course, making a box of cereal cost more!

They un-bolted the equipment and moved it all to the states.
All the renovations they had done were quite well appreciated by the new owner of the building, although not a food manufacturer.

Calm
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

Council Member
Jul 6, 2004
1,142
0
36
Hide-Away Lane, Toronto
Yuh Know;

I once had a job with the largest food (cereal) manufacturing company in the world and at it's Canadian plant in Rexdale, Ontario.

When the first Free Trade agreement was signed, it allowed the company to import flour from the U.S.. Prior the Free Trade Agreement, cereals contained Canadian grown wheat and grains.
The Free Trade agreement allowed companies to export cereal from the US without having Canadian "content".

Within 3 months of the Free Trade agreement, the company opened negotiations with the union.
After lengthy and fruitless negotiations, the employees walked off the job.
The company went back to the negotiating table and settled with the union after about 60 days.

Shortly afterwards, while speaking with the President, I noticed hand-written notes on his desktop. I read these notes on the sneak and unknown to him.
The hand-written notes detailed a date when the company would be closing it's plant.

I was a salaried employee and not a union member. So, I just kept the information under my hat and sat back and watched.

The first thing that happened was that the company "promoted" the Canadian born President of Canadian operations to the US plant and replaced him with an American.

Within 60 days, the company began making huge renovations to the plant. They painted the complete plant. They bought all new maintenance equipment. Millions of dollars were being spent. They even paved and painted the parking lot. Oh! I remember how proud the unionized workers were as they parked in their numbered spots.
The company even renovated the employee cafeteria.
They spent millions and without a care to costs. They hired landscapers and everything.

Inside the plant, they began to bring in a new type of manufacturing process. A new packaging plant. It was said to be "experimental".
As they tore out the old equipment and installed the new, the new equipment was just bolted to the floor of the plant.

In less than 18 months they were out of Canada.

They said that the cost of making cereal in Canada was just too much and they brought out the financial figures to show it. Of course it included all the capital expenditures for renovations and equipment. Of course, making a box of cereal cost more!

They un-bolted the equipment and moved it all to the states.
All the renovations they had done were quite well appreciated by the new owner of the building, although not a food manufacturer.

Calm
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

Council Member
Jul 6, 2004
1,142
0
36
Hide-Away Lane, Toronto
Yuh Know;

I once had a job with the largest food (cereal) manufacturing company in the world and at it's Canadian plant in Rexdale, Ontario.

When the first Free Trade agreement was signed, it allowed the company to import flour from the U.S.. Prior the Free Trade Agreement, cereals contained Canadian grown wheat and grains.
The Free Trade agreement allowed companies to export cereal from the US without having Canadian "content".

Within 3 months of the Free Trade agreement, the company opened negotiations with the union.
After lengthy and fruitless negotiations, the employees walked off the job.
The company went back to the negotiating table and settled with the union after about 60 days.

Shortly afterwards, while speaking with the President, I noticed hand-written notes on his desktop. I read these notes on the sneak and unknown to him.
The hand-written notes detailed a date when the company would be closing it's plant.

I was a salaried employee and not a union member. So, I just kept the information under my hat and sat back and watched.

The first thing that happened was that the company "promoted" the Canadian born President of Canadian operations to the US plant and replaced him with an American.

Within 60 days, the company began making huge renovations to the plant. They painted the complete plant. They bought all new maintenance equipment. Millions of dollars were being spent. They even paved and painted the parking lot. Oh! I remember how proud the unionized workers were as they parked in their numbered spots.
The company even renovated the employee cafeteria.
They spent millions and without a care to costs. They hired landscapers and everything.

Inside the plant, they began to bring in a new type of manufacturing process. A new packaging plant. It was said to be "experimental".
As they tore out the old equipment and installed the new, the new equipment was just bolted to the floor of the plant.

In less than 18 months they were out of Canada.

They said that the cost of making cereal in Canada was just too much and they brought out the financial figures to show it. Of course it included all the capital expenditures for renovations and equipment. Of course, making a box of cereal cost more!

They un-bolted the equipment and moved it all to the states.
All the renovations they had done were quite well appreciated by the new owner of the building, although not a food manufacturer.

Calm
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
1,238
1
38
Winnipeg
RE: WalMart - Store clos

Wal-Mart should be banned from doing business in Canada. They want to bust unions? Fine, let them do it in Paco's backyard. We have plenty of Canadian entrepreneurs who are willing to employ people under fair terms in Canada. We don't a bunch of criminal slave-drivers up here.
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
1,238
1
38
Winnipeg
RE: WalMart - Store clos

Wal-Mart should be banned from doing business in Canada. They want to bust unions? Fine, let them do it in Paco's backyard. We have plenty of Canadian entrepreneurs who are willing to employ people under fair terms in Canada. We don't a bunch of criminal slave-drivers up here.