WalMart - Store closing over unionising, Boycott called

Will you join me in a boycott of WalMart?

  • Does WalMart get its market dominance fairly?

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Vanni Fucci

Senate Member
Dec 26, 2004
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peapod said:
I work for non-profit...no greed=no problems

I do desktop and network support for a few non-profits here in Winnipeg, and my wife is an office administrator for a non-profit as well...my business is listed in a catalogue for CED-based businesses...because for me, money matters less than people...
 

Vanni Fucci

Senate Member
Dec 26, 2004
5,239
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8th Circle, 7th Bolgia
the-brights.net
peapod said:
I work for non-profit...no greed=no problems

I do desktop and network support for a few non-profits here in Winnipeg, and my wife is an office administrator for a non-profit as well...my business is listed in a catalogue for CED-based businesses...because for me, money matters less than people...
 

no1important

Time Out
Jan 9, 2003
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Wal Mart has to do everything cheap. Most of the "stuff" or "junk" they sell is from Asia, they outsource like hell, they do not want people to make a half descent wage. It is all about profit with them. They do not care that they support child slave labour or about their employees. Wal Mart in my opinion are the scum of the earth for retail. I do not shop there and never will. I prefer to pay a bit extra and purchase from small business's, which are Canadian.
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

Council Member
Jul 6, 2004
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Hide-Away Lane, Toronto
Hey!

I was watching CNN Lou Dobbs the other night.
There was an interview where a discussion of unionism took place.

It was said that unions failed their membership because they did not almalgamate or join forces like companies did.
That unions were too small to take on big corporations.

That is so true!
In some factories there are 3 different union locals and sometimes even different parent unions.
The Steelworkers and the Garment workers union should of joined up with each other as one union.

As a former union executive ..... I often found that unions do stand behind their membership.
Except; that sometimes they were standing so far behind me, I couldn't see them.

Calm
 

Jay

Executive Branch Member
Jan 7, 2005
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"That unions were too small to take on big corporations. "

Ever heard of the Ontario Teachers Federation?
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
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Winnipeg
RE: WalMart - Store clos

I don't have the Canadian stats in front of me, JJ, but 1/3 of US workers used to be unionized, now it's less than 10%. Canada is a little better off, I believe, but not much.

Besides, without the teacher's union your wife would be making less money, you wouldn't be able to afford a computer, and we'd all be missing out on your great wisdom.
 

Jay

Executive Branch Member
Jan 7, 2005
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Less unionism in America could be read that they aren’t needed as much. The American worker could be getting a better shake, or maybe the unions have closed enough plants to have an impact on their membership numbers.

Who knows?

I know that the plant I worked for and another my friend worked for had a union come in, and the companies went south. It's got to effect things. I sure didn't vote to have it come in, I wanted my job. But I wouldn't have the job I have now. Life is funny.

I posted the Teachers Federation post to show an example of a very large union.

Besides, without the teacher's union your wife would be making less money, you wouldn't be able to afford a computer, and we'd all be missing out on your great wisdom.

Yes she would be making less money (we both think the salary cap is too high). She would be making a reasonable wage, and the province could afford to get more teachers and buy much needed supplies. And the union would have less reason to cause shit in this province. My wife hates the politics that follow her job, but her job is so full of socialists she cannot escape politics, and it has an effect on her I don't like to see. The union she works for likes to forget that we vote in governments’ to minister education, not to enter into negotiation with a union. Her union is too big, and doesn't take into consideration regional issues so much. Oh well. I don't mind the money, I look at it like I'm getting those tax dollars back. :)

I would however still be able to afford a computer, and my great wisdom would still be known to the free world.

I gotta love ya Rev.
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
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Less unionism in America could be read that they aren’t needed as much. The American worker could be getting a better shake, or maybe the unions have closed enough plants to have an impact on their membership numbers.

Who knows?

Wage stagnation, less vacation time than any other developed nation, fewer benefits than any other developed nation, less job security than any other developed nation, a shrinking standard of living, an ever-widening gap between rich and poor, a shrinking middle class. Funny how how all of those thing coincide with the decline of unions, isn;t it?

I know that the plant I worked for and another my friend worked for had a union come in, and the companies went south. It's got to effect things. I sure didn't vote to have it come in, I wanted my job. But I wouldn't have the job I have now. Life is funny.

Which is why there are growing calls not just for bi-national unions, but international ones. Union busting is bad for economies in the long run. It's bad for union workers in the short term and all workers in the long term.



I gotta love ya Rev.

You'll have to check with Mrs. Rev. She has dibbs.
 

Paco

Electoral Member
Jul 6, 2004
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Re: RE: WalMart - Store closing over unionising, Boycott ca

no1important said:
There are also a few states in America when you get a job at a union site you do not have to join the union (They call it "right to work") like we do here in Canada.

Reverend Blair said:
Funny how a lot of those states are the same ones that fought to keep slavery, isn't it?

Funny how those states give one a choice. One is not forced to join or one is free to join. Funny how you have a problem with freedom, Rev.
 

missile

House Member
Dec 1, 2004
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Saint John N.B.
Most of the Unions I know have been fighting just to keep the hard earned benefits gotten from many years of battling the employers. It seems that whenever a contract is up, all the employers scream that they need severe rollbacks to stay competitive.Companies like Walmart aren't helping out the situation by having all their product made in China. Another very good reason not to shop there is the censorship issue--every book,every recording and every game they sell has to meet so called Christian values[you know ,the ones where any sex or swearing is forbidden,but all the violence can remain!]
 

tibear

Electoral Member
Jan 25, 2005
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Missile,

If you don't like the policy a particular store has, DON'T SHOP THERE.

Is Walmart the only store in Saint John's??? I find it refreshing to know that there are stores that have the same values that I have with regards to certain things. Why is it that my family HAS to be exposed to everything that YOU want. Can't the conservative segment of the world live their lives without you imposing your lifestyle around every corner???
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
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Winnipeg
RE: WalMart - Store clos

Because of Wal-Marts overwhelming size and the fact that when they move into an area a lot of small shops tends to close, it is an issue whether they carry music and videos. They have the power to, because they may not carry an album, keep songs from being recorded and artists from being signed, Tibear.

Wal-Mart is not the average retailer. Their influence makes them a special case.
 

tibear

Electoral Member
Jan 25, 2005
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Perhaps one of the reasons that Walmart does do very well is because of its "family" values with respect to music and videos.

As stated earlier, you don't have to shop there if you don't want to. Most people here are pro-choice so choose with your feet and shop elsewhere.
 

zenfisher

House Member
Sep 12, 2004
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http://www.everyweek.com/news/news.asp?no=4608

Costco isn't unionized either, yet somehow they manage to treat their employees rather well. Despite wall street trying to dictate how they should run their business.

One stop shopping while convenient is also a symptom of the shrinking power of unions. Less people are unionized.That means lower paying jobs. This means people have to work longer. Less time to shop. Ergo one stop shopping becomes more attractive to them.

Cheap prices sure,but at the cost of losing jobs that pay living wages in North America. The influx of primarily Asian products, means that North Americans are losing their jobs. It also means less income going into local economies. It is an endless cycle. One that is not that dificult to break.

Tibear is right...if you don't like a stores particular policies don't shop there. However, when you live in a small town and Walmart has run all the local businesses out of that town...it doesn't give you a lot of options.
 

tibear

Electoral Member
Jan 25, 2005
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Zen,

Can you name me a town where Walmart is the only business in town. There's always an alternative.