Wait......cons are immoral too.

[Socrates the Greek]

What are you on about?

Don't be an idiot.

Socrates was comparing shooting animals with aborting babies, in fact he was comparing human life with animal life..

You can read English, can't you?

Oh, I suppose, as a card-carrying lefty moron, you think stopping a baby at term in the birth canal, smashing its skull open and scrambling its brains with forceps is FINE (its called partial-birth abortion, perfectly legal in Canada), but shooting a caribou is a crime against all that is good in the world.

Talk about idiocy and hypocracy!

Colpy, come on man, we may be politically apposed, but I have always stated that aborting babies sucks…………………but in specific helpless situations, a women who has a record of physically abusing her body over a period which the results are evident that she has no chance in bringing a healthy baby, she should not be allowed to bring a deformed baby in this life and dump it in society’s door step. You don’t have that right to force such an environment with your self serving idolism. Or a woman who was raped should not be allowed to give birth to a chilled that was conceived in such traumatized conditions. If any one is a hypocrite here in this thread, would be a person in spite of all the scary anecdotes who still sits here trying to decide what constitutes true reason for abortion. Colpy, Avro, is not a moron; he sees it like it is. Life is life, humans are not more important then animals, to stop an animal from the path of its natural life so the governor can sit and fart on it and think that she is a great person, man she is a hypocrite to boot. You can think that I am off the wall, but if you think that you can be a pro life while you kill animals to display at home and feel good about such a stupid action, man somebody’s head needs serious calibration.
It is idiotic wanting to save a one month old life which has been conceived under rape conditions, it is idiotic to suggest that a drug addict woman should be allowed to reproduce knowing the deformation of human life, it is idiotic to sit there and talk bull **** all day long and play F GOD, WHEN IN FACT YOU ARE NOT GOD……………….
I like all of you here but, pro-lifers stop telling stories that make no sense.
An accidental pregnancy should not carry to term, it should be dealt with the first month, none of this bull Colpy, the head gets cracked open during the abortion and all that scary stupidity crap. :roll::roll::roll:

 

[Risus]

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An accidental pregnancy should not carry to term, it should be dealt with the first month, none of this bull Colpy, the head gets cracked open during the abortion and all that scary stupidity crap. :roll::roll::roll:

So here you are wanting to play God again. Get a life...

 

[Colpy]

Colpy, come on man, we may be politically apposed, but I have always stated that aborting babies sucks…………………but in specific helpless situations, a women who has a record of physically abusing her body over a period which the results are evident that she has no chance in bringing a healthy baby, she should not be allowed to bring a deformed baby in this life and dump it in society’s door step. You don’t have that right to force such an environment with your self serving idolism. Or a woman who was raped should not be allowed to give birth to a chilled that was conceived in such traumatized conditions. If any one is a hypocrite here in this thread, would be a person in spite of all the scary anecdotes who still sits here trying to decide what constitutes true reason for abortion. Colpy, Avro, is not a moron; he sees it like it is. Life is life, humans are not more important then animals, to stop an animal from the path of its natural life so the governor can sit and fart on it and think that she is a great person, man she is a hypocrite to boot. You can think that I am off the wall, but if you think that you can be a pro life while you kill animals to display at home and feel good about such a stupid action, man somebody’s head needs serious calibration.
It is idiotic wanting to save a one month old life which has been conceived under rape conditions, it is idiotic to suggest that a drug addict woman should be allowed to reproduce knowing the deformation of human life, it is idiotic to sit there and talk bull **** all day long and play F GOD, WHEN IN FACT YOU ARE NOT GOD……………….
I like all of you here but, pro-lifers stop telling stories that make no sense.
An accidental pregnancy should not carry to term, it should be dealt with the first month, none of this bull Colpy, the head gets cracked open during the abortion and all that scary stupidity crap. :roll::roll::roll:

Socrates, the post you quote was not aimed at you......

 

[Colpy]

I get it!

It's the English language you guys don't understand!

Please, let me help:

hypocrisy: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not

Straight from Webster's Dictionary.

Palin does not believe in abortion, so she gave birth to a child she knew had Down's Syndrome, and her 17 year old is carrying her child to term.........Palin sees nothing wrong with hunting, and openly admits to enjoying that perfectly legal activity, so hunts for meat and trophy.

There is no hypocrisy in either thing.

As for those that say I would defend her no matter what, please read back to where I raised the question of her exerting undue pressure on the Alaska Minister of Public Safety........which could (if true) be an indication of real hypocrisy.....(now let me explain) ie claiming to be a advocate of open, honest government while firing a public servant for refusing to fulfill an unethical request . That is hypocrisy.

Kiddies, the lesson is over for the day.

Please bring a dictionary tomorrow.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

I get it!

It's the English language you guys don't understand!

Please, let me help:

hypocrisy: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not

Straight from Webster's Dictionary.

Palin does not believe in abortion, so she gave birth to a child she knew had Down's Syndrome, and her 17 year old is carrying her child to term.........Palin sees nothing wrong with hunting, and openly admits to enjoying that perfectly legal activity, so hunts for meat and trophy.

There is no hypocrisy in either thing.

As for those that say I would defend her no matter what, please read back to where I raised the question of her exerting undue pressure on the Alaska Minister of Public Safety........which could (if true) be an indication of real hypocrisy.....(now let me explain) ie claiming to be a advocate of open, honest government while firing a public servant for refusing to fulfill an unethical request . That is hypocrisy.

Kiddies, the lesson is over for the day.

Please bring a dictionary tomorrow.

Colpy, back in 1963 a movie was made called The Birds………… the movie was about how man for years pissed wild life OFF and wildlife finally settled with the animal abusers……
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1969461248/nm0001792

 

[lone wolf]

Are you really worried that Critters want revenge? They're smarter than tha....

 

[Avro]

I get it!

It's the English language you guys don't understand!

Please, let me help:

hypocrisy: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not

Straight from Webster's Dictionary.

Palin does not believe in abortion, so she gave birth to a child she knew had Down's Syndrome, and her 17 year old is carrying her child to term.........Palin sees nothing wrong with hunting, and openly admits to enjoying that perfectly legal activity, so hunts for meat and trophy.

There is no hypocrisy in either thing.

As for those that say I would defend her no matter what, please read back to where I raised the question of her exerting undue pressure on the Alaska Minister of Public Safety........which could (if true) be an indication of real hypocrisy.....(now let me explain) ie claiming to be a advocate of open, honest government while firing a public servant for refusing to fulfill an unethical request . That is hypocrisy.

Kiddies, the lesson is over for the day.

Please bring a dictionary tomorrow.

In the press release coming from the Palin family they said that Bristol is choosing to have the baby, if Palin were president she would take away that choice from all other pregnant women.

Hypocrisy.

 

[Colpy]

In the press release coming from the Palin family they said that Bristol is choosing to have the baby, if Palin were president she would take away that choice from all other pregnant women.

Hypocrisy.

Some students are simply difficult.

If Palin, who has clearly stated her evangelical Christianity as well as her opposition to abortion, could and did ban abortions, that would not be hypocrisy. In fact, if Palin had the power to ban abortions and did NOT do so, that would be hypocrisy. Please see definition above.

The definition of "hypocrisy" is not (much to your surpize) "anything I don't like"

BTW, even as President, Palin could not ban abortion, she wouldn't have the power.......ever hear of Congress? Or for that matter, Roe vs Wade and the Supreme Court?

 

[jimmoyer]

I see the abortion issue as a very healthy debate.

Its complications inspire heated adversaries, who both have legitimate arguments.

There are competing rights, overlapping hypocrisies.

If we think of a world that over-emphasizes the right to choose, then we really are demeaning the concept of sanctity of a new life, especially in this materialistic, throw-away society.

If we have government intrude too fiercely in such a private decision, then we risk a loss of a very deep right, privacy (although nowhere specificly mentioned in most democracies, much less thru the US constitution except tangentially).

Stem cell debate brought out the old Nazi history as well, the perfecting of the human race.

The adversaries catch our attention, but they as actors in the debate learn the least of why this debate is an honest and important one.

 

[Avro]

Some students are simply difficult.

If Palin, who has clearly stated her evangelical Christianity as well as her opposition to abortion, could and did ban abortions, that would not be hypocrisy. In fact, if Palin had the power to ban abortions and did NOT do so, that would be hypocrisy. Please see definition above.

The definition of "hypocrisy" is not (much to your surpize) "anything I don't like"

BTW, even as President, Palin could not ban abortion, she wouldn't have the power.......ever hear of Congress? Or for that matter, Roe vs Wade and the Supreme Court?

Oh dear, we have a moron.

Bristol chose to have her baby and so did Palin, that was in the press release. I know that had they terminated the births which was an option for them it would be easier for your flag waving con mind to understand. But they chose to have their babies, if given the power Palin would take that choice away from other women even going as far as saying she would force women to have the babies of rapists.

Hypocracy......choice for me but not anyone else.

It's sort of complicated so I don't expect you to understand, perhaps you should continue playing connect the dots over in the corner.

I even saw Newt get owned by John Stewart on this issue last night, not the real news but oh so much better....unless of course you are a con with no sense of humor....so all cons I guess. Check out the episode from last night, I'm sure you can find it online.

I will say though she gave a hell of a speech last night, to bad she is to inexperienced to lead.;-)

 

[TenPenny]

The use of the phrase 'chose to have her baby' is actually quite amusing, because, according to her own beliefs, there is no 'choice' to be made.

Aside from all of that, the choice to have an abortion should be one that is not approached lightly. It should be an option available to women, but it should (and, I suggest, does in 90% of cases) take careful thought and consideration.

The abortion debate, and the extreme examples given by both sides, are simply an example of our need to use the 5% extreme cases to make rules for the 95% rational people.

Let's stop treating everybody like they're stupid, shall we? The vast majority of women who have abortions do not do so lightly. The vast majority of people who do not like the availability of abortions aren't as extreme as they seem.

So let's all step back, and use a little common sense for a change.

 

[Colpy]

Oh dear, we have a moron.

Bristol chose to have her baby and so did Palin, that was in the press release. I know that had they terminated the births which was an option for them it would be easier for your flag waving con mind to understand. But they chose to have their babies, if given the power Palin would take that choice away from other women even going as far as saying she would force women to have the babies of rapists.

Hypocracy......choice for me but not anyone else.

It's sort of complicated so I don't expect you to understand, perhaps you should continue playing connect the dots over in the corner.

I even saw Newt get owned by John Stewart on this issue last night, not the real news but oh so much better....unless of course you are a con with no sense of humor....so all cons I guess. Check out the episode from last night, I'm sure you can find it online.

I will say though she gave a hell of a speech last night, to bad she is to inexperienced to lead.;-)

Yep, we do have a moron.....you can meet him anytime you look in a mirror.

First of all, it is spelled hypocrisy.

Second of all, your charge is ridiculous in the extreme. Allow me to illustrate: I don't believe in murder. I have chosen not to murder anyone in my life. That has been my choice; and I would deny that choice to everyone else as well, with all the weight of the law......is that hypocrisy?

Let me put it to you another way.........Sarah Palin and those who share her beliefs think abortion is a terrible wrong, therefore.....when in a touchy situation, either carrying a Down's Syndrome child or having a young, pregnant unwed mother.....abortion is NOT an option. Within their belief structure there is no choice. And that is exactly how the Palins have behaved.....living up to their beliefs, stepping up to the plate, accepting the responsiblity of a Down's Syndrome child and the problems of a young unwed mother. Abortion in either case would have been easy, but was never an option.

That is the opposite of hypocrisy.

If Palin had an abortion, or if she had encouraged her daughter to do so, THAT would be hypocrisy.

If Palin claimed to believe abortion to be a horrible wrong, equivalent to murder, and she did not work towards its restriction, that would be hypocrisy.

Get it yet?

It is not that complicated, it is just the English language.

 

[Colpy]

The use of the phrase 'chose to have her baby' is actually quite amusing, because, according to her own beliefs, there is no 'choice' to be made.

Aside from all of that, the choice to have an abortion should be one that is not approached lightly. It should be an option available to women, but it should (and, I suggest, does in 90% of cases) take careful thought and consideration.

The abortion debate, and the extreme examples given by both sides, are simply an example of our need to use the 5% extreme cases to make rules for the 95% rational people.

Let's stop treating everybody like they're stupid, shall we? The vast majority of women who have abortions do not do so lightly. The vast majority of people who do not like the availability of abortions aren't as extreme as they seem.

So let's all step back, and use a little common sense for a change.

Exactly TenPenny.

I was writing my post when you posted.

Glad someone can add two and two and get four.

 

[Kreskin]

Legislating abortion is a recipe for social engineering and red tape. There are three different ways to measure trimesters. For most pregnancies it's impossible to determine the exact age of a fetus, as measured by any of the trimester-type measurements. That is professional guesswork. All of the essential structures of the fetus are complete before the end of the first. An amniocentitis isn't performed until well into any version of a second trimester. Often the results aren't established until near the end of the second. An abortion in the third trimester resulting from the findings of a second trimester amnio is not an abortion for contraceptive means. No woman has an amnio hoping to lose a pregnancy. But those who play politics with this want you to think they are having them for fun and frolic. They want to legislate for political and religious gamesmanship, not for any reality on the ground. There really don't need to be any abortion laws at all because it is a very complex personal issue. One that can't be documented properly, fairly or realistically in legislation.

 

[lone wolf]

Is it still legal to possess up to 15 ounces for your own use in Alaska?

 

[Colpy]

Is it still legal to possess up to 15 ounces for your own use in Alaska?

Don't think so Lone Wolf.....that's ancient history (sigh)

But they still got plenty of guns!

 

[Avro]

Yep, we do have a moron.....you can meet him anytime you look in a mirror.

First of all, it is spelled hypocrisy.

Second of all, your charge is ridiculous in the extreme. Allow me to illustrate: I don't believe in murder. I have chosen not to murder anyone in my life. That has been my choice; and I would deny that choice to everyone else as well, with all the weight of the law......is that hypocrisy?

Let me put it to you another way.........Sarah Palin and those who share her beliefs think abortion is a terrible wrong, therefore.....when in a touchy situation, either carrying a Down's Syndrome child or having a young, pregnant unwed mother.....abortion is NOT an option. Within their belief structure there is no choice. And that is exactly how the Palins have behaved.....living up to their beliefs, stepping up to the plate, accepting the responsiblity of a Down's Syndrome child and the problems of a young unwed mother. Abortion in either case would have been easy, but was never an option.

That is the opposite of hypocrisy.

If Palin had an abortion, or if she had encouraged her daughter to do so, THAT would be hypocrisy.

If Palin claimed to believe abortion to be a horrible wrong, equivalent to murder, and she did not work towards its restriction, that would be hypocrisy.

Get it yet?

It is not that complicated, it is just the English language.

Why use the word choice if it isn't one?

 

[lone wolf]

Why use the word choice if it isn't one?

Maybe she had a choice between keeping the baby or putting it up for adoption? Semantics are a bitch sometimes....

 

[Kreskin]

Why doesn't she and other conservative women choose to adopt down syndrome children?

 

[Avro]

Maybe she had a choice between keeping the baby or putting it up for adoption? Semantics are a bitch sometimes....

Maybe, maybe not.

Like I tried to tell Colpy (the con flag waver) it is complicated and words chosen mean everything.

In her case, there is no choice, for her or anyone like her, yet the word still spilled out of her mouth.

Hypocrisy.

Still dosen't excuse the fact that her daughter is a trampy sl*t though.

More hypocrisy? Yep.